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REARMING of JAPAN

Nuclear weapons are relatively simple to manufacture once you have enriched fission material. This is why even countries like Pakistan and North Korea have them.

And countries like Korea and Japan have not only an army of nuclear scientists(currently employed in engineering nuclear power plants and fusion reactors) at disposal, they don't even need centrifuges to enrich uranium and plutonium to 99%.

Japan and Korea (many other countries too) could create crude fission weapons in several months, but all other technologies needed for viable nuclear weapon systems would take years to develop. You simply cannot "fart" Minuteman style ICBM (looking how hard it's for SK to make a space rocket) in a few months or even in years.

All nuclear weapon states have decades of experience in making nuclear weapons... Japan and Korea have zero.


Btw; USA won't allow these two nations to have nuclear weapons, end of story.
 
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Btw; USA won't allow these two nations to have nuclear weapons, end of story.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. South Korea, probably. Japan? Japan already has them.
 
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Yen plunges after conservative win in Japan elections
This is exactly what Abe wanted to happen.

Abe was promising to weaken the yen so that Japanese exporters could compete. This is actually a good news for Japan.

Japan and Korea (many other countries too) could create crude fission weapons in several months
How many nuclear states are out there? Quite a lot.

How many are nuclear power plant exporters? The US, Japan, Korea, France, and Russia.

Why far fewer nuclear power plant exporters than nuclear weapons states? Because nuclear power plants, especially modern ones with latest certifications, are 10 times harder to do than nuclear weapons.

Can countries that run nuclear simulations for their reactors not run simulation for their nuclear weapons? Of course not.

You simply cannot "fart" Minuteman style ICBM (looking how hard it's for SK to make a space rocket) in a few months or even in years.

All that is needed is to bring down the warhead weight to 500 kg. Then it could be fitted on existing missiles.
 
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Korea made a lot of futile attempt to launch a rocket and send a satelite to the space,it's not a easy task.but Koreans should count it as a blessing, there's no point for tiny nations like Korea having nuclear weapons and means of delivery of them cause they wont stand a second chance in a nuclear war.
 
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Korea made a lot of futile attempt to launch a rocket and send a satelite to the space,it's not a easy task.but Koreans should count it as a blessing, there's no point for tiny nations like Korea having nuclear weapons and means of delivery of them cause they wont stand a second chance in a nuclear war.

Well, that's not how the world remembers China behaving when Vietnamese, Filipino, and even Japanese authorities tried to detain Chinese fishing boats.

I do find the Chinese silence at mass Korean detainment of Chinese fishing boats strange. Imagine if Vietnam detained 700 Chinese fishing boats a year and China would have declared a war against Vietnam.
 
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my take is if those crazy fishermen venture into other countries water to fish they should be duly punished.sometime they are being detained by friendly countries like Russia and N.Korea,those fishermen should be reined and disciplined,they also regularly break Chinese laws,but the topic is about not fishing or fishermen.
 
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Well, that's not how the world remembers China behaving when Vietnamese, Filipino, and even Japanese authorities tried to detain Chinese fishing boats.

I do find the Chinese silence at mass Korean detainment of Chinese fishing boats strange. Imagine if Vietnam detained 700 Chinese fishing boats a year and China would have declared a war against Vietnam.

Are you suggesting that we should send our planes and coast guards to korea too?
 
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So you have evidence that Japan has nuclear weapons?
Japan has the ICBM capability. The nuclear capability. The warhead capability. They can deploy nukes within a few days if necessary. They just ain't saying so publicly because of the population.

If Japanese intelligence saw signs that China was about to mount an invasion of Japan, Japan would publicly deploy nukes.
 
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japanese had killed million people. nothing is enough to pay for human lives. only evil people like vietnamese and filipino admit japanese paid enough for human lives during japanese facist history. those people should not be forgot unless japan fully commited to its crimes. following their idea, china could kill and rap..e vietnamese and filipino and then pay them some money like what japan did in the history. that is good enough for them like what they said!!


that's just stupid other prove of your lack of common sense and intelligence one the past is the past forgive don't forget principle
 
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The same, depend on where you rage a sea war.

If you are raging a sea war within international water with Japan, Japan warship cannot gone international unless escorted by US warship.

If you are raging a sea war within Japan territorial water, then you are invading japan. There are more US warship moving around Japan then there are Japanese warship (We got about 130 warship in 2 CSG in Japan while Japan only have 40 odds warship with the whole JMSDF.)

And that would be an invasion of Japan and will draw the US Navy to response.

China have no desire to take over lands inside Japanese territorial waters but will be defending its islands within contested waters. The present Japan is too weak to call the first shot and is in no shape to wage economic warfare against China. A physical war is not needed in order to have Japan put down on her knees.

In the past America have suffered greatly in every match up against China and the Russians, they know well enough not to stick their nose out for a couple of small rocks that is nowhere near their home. America will offer her usual lip service or perform the usual sail past like they always do, meanwhile Japan will plant her face down in another round of economic and political defeat - pointing fingers and switching prime ministers.
 
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China have no desire to take over lands inside Japanese territorial waters but will be defending its islands within contested waters. The present Japan is too weak to call the first shot and is in no shape to wage economic warfare against China. A physical war is not needed in order to have Japan put down on her knees.

In the past America have suffered greatly in every match up against China and the Russians, they know well enough not to stick their nose out for a couple of small rocks that is nowhere near their home. America will offer her usual lip service or perform the usual sail past like they always do, meanwhile Japan will plant her face down in another round of economic and political defeat - pointing fingers and switching prime ministers.

它是日本制的端......
 
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Sunday, Dec. 16, 2012

COUNTERPOINT
Even more than meltdowns; this election is essentially about Japan's war-renouncing Constitution

By ROGER PULVERS
Special to The Japan Times

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This is the 15th general election I have witnessed since coming to live in Japan in 1967, and by any standards it is the most crucial one of those for this country.

Only once before have I regarded an upcoming general election in the same way, and that was in 2009. On that occasion, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP), which had had a virtual monopoly in government for more than half a century, was ousted by the seemingly more progressive Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ).

But alas, as has become all too clear, the emphasis was on "seemingly" rather than "progressive"; and the country is now faced with two iconic issues that were not to the fore in the last election: the continuance or abandonment of nuclear energy; and the status and future role of the Japan Self-Defense Forces (JSDF).

The agendas of the two main parties — the DPJ and LDP — on nuclear energy are not significantly far apart; and when you add in that of the Nippon Ishin no Kai (Japan Restoration Party), you get a broad pro-nuclear consensus from the leading political groupings. (While the DPJ has expressed a desire to phase out nuclear energy in the 2030s, few indeed believe there is any guarantee the party would stick to its vague plan.)

The conglomeration of small parties under the banner of the new Nippon Mirai no To (Japan Future Party [JFP]), established late last month by Shiga Prefecture Gov. Yukiko Kada, is positively committed to the disuse of nuclear energy by 2022; but the JFP's chances of gaining power are nonexistent, despite much popular support for their platform. The likely outcome is a victory for the LDP, which is committed to restarting virtually all reactors.

This leaves the other issue, that of the role of the armed forces, as the defining one — defining, because it will determine the role Japan will play in defense and world security in the coming years. I would assume that in Beijing, Seoul and other capitals in the region, this will be the most closely watched election in decades.

Shinzo Abe, president of the LDP and the man most likely to be the next prime minister of Japan, has made his stance clear on the status and role of the military. On the satellite TV channel BS11's popular "Mirai Vision (Future Vision)" program on Sept. 3, 2011, he gave three reasons why Japan must amend the explicitly war-renouncing Article 9 of the Constitution:

First, because it was handed down by U.S. Army Gen. Douglas MacArthur, Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers during the 1945-52 postwar Occupation.

Second, because it is more than 60 years old and hence "is not appropriate" for the 21st century.

Third, because Japanese people should change it by their own hand, turning it into "our Constitution."

During the long interview, Abe — who was prime minister for nearly a year in 2006-07 — stressed that "the guarantee of security is the life of the people. A military force is needed to defend the country." He would refashion the Jieitai (JSDF) — that were formed in 1954 and comprise the Ground, Maritime and Air SDFs) — into a Kokubogun (National Military).

The key character when the latter is written in kanji, rather than the Roman alphabet, is "gun" — which means "military," "army" or "forces." It has a distinctly prewar ring to it.

Article 9 states that Japan "(aspires) sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order." It renounces war "and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes."

Truly, this is the most awe-inspiring and revolutionary article dealing with defense and belligerency in the constitution of any nation on Earth.

Abe's stated goal is to revise downward the rule authorizing the government to call a national referendum— from two-thirds to a simple majority of Upper House and Lower House members of the Diet — and to then call one to amend Article 9 of the Constitution and turn the JSDF's branches into military forces capable of carrying out offensive action "in the name of defense."

If Abe becomes prime minister, it is almost certain that he will adopt a more confrontational position toward China, South Korea and Russia on the three territorial issues of dispute with those countries.

He will no doubt aggressively pursue the abduction issue with North Korea — an issue he previously exploited as prime minister by meeting publicly with the parents of the abductee Megumi Yokota, just as U.S. President George W. Bush met with and manipulated the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, stirring up faux patriotism in pursuit of his own agenda as commander-in-chief.

The tragedies of terror attacks on individuals and occupied buildings are horrible enough without the indecent use of victims as commiseration pawns.

Despite the sham rhetoric of national prestige that underpins the LDP stance, there is no way in the world that a strategy of confrontation will work vis-à-vis the stubborn nationalism of Japan's neighbors. The only means to settle these territorial and abduction disputes is through prolonged negotiation based not on in-your-face assailment but on persuasion and compromise leading to the securing of mutually beneficial strategic outcomes.

If the LDP wins this election and goes ahead with its plans to recast the military — subject, of course, to half Japan's eligible referendum voters agreeing — then the only thing that can be expected is heightened aggravation from neighbors and the rattle of slogans leading to violence.

Abe is as poor a historian as he is a judge of strategy.

While it is true that the Constitution was drafted by a team established under the auspices of the Allied Occupation authorities, and was presented to the Japanese government by them, that was done primarily to ensure the viability of the Emperor as head of state — something that Japanese politicians and bureaucrats alike considered their primary concern.

There were popular moves afoot in Japan at the beginning of 1946, when the Constitution was written, to formulate a so-called People's Constitution — one that reflected the anti-Imperial sentiment pervading Japanese society at the time.

Had this been allowed, MacArthur feared the status of the Emperor might be forsaken — a personage he was in a hurry to protect not only from popular sentiment but also from the belligerent anti-Imperial position taken by certain of the United States' allies in the Occupation — primarily Australia and the U.S.S.R.

Japanese officials considered Article 9, the so-called peace clause, a reasonable price to pay to protect their beloved monarch.

As for Article 9 not being suited to the exigencies of our century, the truth is precisely the opposite.

Violent clashes of military force backed up by the threat of nuclear devastation may, on the odd occasion, allow a country to plant its flag on some territory or other. But this only adds to the injury of pride later on, providing a future bone of contention that sticks in the loser's throat. The only lasting peace is one fashioned through mutual and advised consent.

To refute Abe's third point, that Japanese people must have a Constitution of "their own," I would cite one of the greatest statesman of the era, and one who was intimately involved in the constitutional dilemma of 1946.

Jiro Shirasu, a Cambridge University graduate and fluent English speaker who produced the first Japanese-language draft of the Constitution, said this: "Whether it was forced on us or not, should we not accept it in a straightforward manner? When something is good, it's good. ...

"It was in our era that we prosecuted the stupid war, so aren't we obliged to feel more acutely the responsibility for losing it so badly?"

If Abe becomes the next prime minister, the threat of Japan becoming involved in another "stupid war" becomes real.

That the Constitution has overseen peace and prosperity in Japan for more than 65 years is a tribute to its validity. Destroy that and all Asia may plunge into nationalistic clashes and cross-border turmoil.

Article 9 of the Constitution is not only the mainstay of Japan's integrity — it is the hope of all Asia. This election may be key to deciding its future once and for all.

I hope Imperial Japan will rise again from the ashes and reclaim its lost status. :devil:
 
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Well, that's not how the world remembers China behaving when Vietnamese, Filipino, and even Japanese authorities tried to detain Chinese fishing boats.

I do find the Chinese silence at mass Korean detainment of Chinese fishing boats strange. Imagine if Vietnam detained 700 Chinese fishing boats a year and China would have declared a war against Vietnam.

That says some about the mentality of the Chinese. They are keen to look down and suppress the weak, but bow to the mighty. The Vietnam coast guard can learn a lot from Korean colleagues.

I hope Imperial Japan will rise again from the ashes and reclaim its lost status. :devil:

Do the Indonesian government and people think so? I though Indonesia remains neutral in most political matters.
 
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Korea made a lot of futile attempt to launch a rocket and send a satelite to the space,it's not a easy task.but Koreans should count it as a blessing, there's no point for tiny nations like Korea having nuclear weapons and means of delivery of them cause they wont stand a second chance in a nuclear war.

The reason why South Korea could have Nuclear weapon is the same as North Korean had Nuclear Weapon.

WAsn't it according to your countrymen here in this forum, the reason why is it when this is in North Korea case, "THEY ARE EVERY WAY NEEDED" to have nuclear weapon and ICBM, but when it is a South Korean Case, then they are tiny and no reason??

Double Standard much??

So if your friend killed your parents and fuked your girl friend today.he is still your friends tomorrow?If that's true then you don't even deserved to be called as a human,you low IQ pinoy monkey.


But the problem to your logic is, it's not your friend who killed your family, and f'ed your girl friend and raped your sister.
The guy who kill your family and raped your girl friend is long gone, you are hating the guy who only the commonility is share the same place of birth of the same guy who murder your whole family and killed your friend.

Again, if you are a person not because they have done stuff to you, just because some guy he don't know and generations above done stuff to people you don't know, then you have a serious problem.

Come to it, the world used to cut up China like a pies and raped their women and kill your own citizen, are you gonna hate the world??
China have no desire to take over lands inside Japanese territorial waters but will be defending its islands within contested waters. The present Japan is too weak to call the first shot and is in no shape to wage economic warfare against China. A physical war is not needed in order to have Japan put down on her knees.

In the past America have suffered greatly in every match up against China and the Russians, they know well enough not to stick their nose out for a couple of small rocks that is nowhere near their home. America will offer her usual lip service or perform the usual sail past like they always do, meanwhile Japan will plant her face down in another round of economic and political defeat - pointing fingers and switching prime ministers.

Dude, trade is both side, anyone who study basic economic principle knows, A buyer needed a seller, and a seller needed a buyer. There are no party more important on this equation.

Japan have a big share on your own market, a big giant pie. They have factory and they make everything in China. They also have a strong buyer culture in China.

If China wage a economic war to Japan, yes, you will paralyse the japanese market but you will also make a big dent on yours. The only problem is, Japan are on decline no matter what (You haven't start the war yet and still they are already in decline" and yours is a growing economic. You bound to suffer more than Japan as they literally got nothing to lose.

In China term, where are all those worker who work for Japanese company goes? Where are all the money from trading Japanese commondity goes? Well are all the capitals required to develope China come from? You need to know, when you turn off the tape, to Japan, Japan will turn off the tape to China, Economic war does not work on a one way street, it's a double edged sword.

This is why China have no real action against the Japanese, you can roll drum and say whatever the hack you want, but Chinese Government sees this, he degree of Japan dependence on Chinese market is more or less the same with China depeneding on Japanese's. Otherwise your country would have start the "Economic War" already. Economic war can only be fought with one side needed the most of the other, If you lose Japan as a big client, who you are going to replace with?? Iran? North Korea? or Pakistan??

Say what you want about American war involvement, we don't suffer anything as none of the war we fought is close to home, the only thing we suffer is human life, which almost in all cases the Russian and the Chinese suffer more than us in everywar we fought. Our country and infrainstructure is almost completely untouch and every war we fought bring us cloesr to our goal. It's US in the Chinese backyard, not the otherway around, it's good to remember that.
 
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