Persian gulf or Arabian gulf?

[RayKalm]

Look at other examples, like Mexico, the gulf of Mexico is below two pieces of land which are both originally Mexican.

 

[Mosamania]

I agree with RazPak. Pakistani gulf sounds a lot sexier than anyone of those two options.

In all honesty, Persian gulf is what it's been called since ancient times, and it should continue to remain so.

Also, look at the map, the position of Iran is above the gulf states, that alone makes the inlet of water below Iran called Iran's gulf, or in this case Persians gulf.

Because it is up?? Are you serious?? Besides universe has no up or down. And throughout history the map of the world was reversed so in that argument Arabia was above Iran. And no read what I wrote in #46 it wasn't always called Persian Gulf that is another Persian propaganda/lie.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Actually Historically it was called "Sea of the Earth God" Until 3000BC then "The the sea of the great Sunshine" until 2000BC then "The sea of the Kuldan land" until about 1000BC then "The sea of the south" Until 250BC. Ashurians called it "The bitter sea". Babylonians called it "The lower sea". It is only Darius that called it "Persia's sea" when he traveled from India to Persia by his ships but he did not know of the Arabian side.

Romans called it the "Arabain Gulf" and have used that name in their writings. In the first century AD Pliny the younger said:"Kharkas lay in the extreme edge of the Arabian Gulf where the most pointy part of Happy Arabia (Southern Arabia) begins".

Arabs have called it "The Bahrain Gulf" and later on "The Arabain Gulf" During the Abassyed times it was called "The Iraqi Gulf" until it was replaced later on by "The Arabian Gulf" again.

Ottomans called it "Basrah's Gulf".

THIS HERE IS REAL HISTORY ^^

some source please

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Correct historical name was, is and will be Persian Gulf. Arabs only barking loud because of their powerful master.

 

[DRaisinHerald]

#46 it wasn't always called Persian Gulf that is another Persian propaganda/lie.

Just let the Persians and anyone else who wants to call it Persian gulf, and let the Arabs call it Arabian Gulf. Why not just have 2 names for it?

Arabs only barking loud because of their powerful master.

Why don't you keep your tongue in check?

 

[RayKalm]

Because it is up?? Are you serious?? Besides universe has no up or down. And throughout history the map of the world was reversed so in that argument Arabia was above Iran. And no read what I wrote in #46 it wasn't always called Persian Gulf that is another Persian propaganda/lie.

That is what the definition of 'gulf' defines. On the world map, Iran is considered to be above the Arabian peninsula.

The name of the body of water separating the Arabian Peninsula from the Iranian plateau, historically and most commonly known as the Persian Gulf after the land of Persia (now called Iran), has been disputed by some Arab countries since the 1960s. Rivalry between Persians and Arabs, however, along with the emergence of pan-Arabism and Arab nationalism, has seen the name Arabian Gulf become predominant in most Arab countries. Names beyond these two have also been applied to or proposed for this body of water.

 

[RazPaK]

 

[Hack-Hook]

Because you don't just come and cram your name in something that it isn't yours just like that. Hell even the Iranian side has the Arabic "Ahwaz" bordering it making it even more Arab than it is Iranian.

This is historical facts vs Persian manipulation.

Arabs like to make everything Arabian , Ahvaz is a Persian name

The word Ahvaz is a Persianized form of the local Ahwaz, which in turn itself is derived from a Persian word. The Dehkhoda Dictionary specifically defines the Market of the Khuzis", where "Suq" is Persian word "chahar-suy/sugh" for market,[citation needed] and "Ahvaz" is a plural (اسم جم&#1593 of the form "af'āl" (افعا&#1604 of the word "Huz", or more precisely, the root "ha wa za" ( َحَـوَز ), which itself comes from the Persian Huz, from Achaemenid inscriptions from where the term first appears. Thus, which refers to the non-Arabic original inhabitants of Khūzestān. The word Houz or khouzh are the same as it means Raw sugar usually produced locally from sugar cane field north of ahwaz up to shoush where the people of Khouzistan were known for this raw sugar produce since Elamite period. The addition of A in many old Persian names were a clear indication of its origin like Hurmazd or Ahuramazda. The language of Khouzi is non-arabic and is one of the oldest dialect still being used in and around Ahwaz.

The name of the region appears in medieval Syriac sources as ܒܝܬ ܗܘܙܝܐ Beṯ Huzáyé, literally meaning "land of the Huzis".[2]

The term "Huz", meanwhile, is the Old Persian rendition of Suz (Susa-Susiana), the native Elamite name of the region. Old Persian commonly changed the initial "s" in a foreign word into an "h," most famously, in its rendition of the name the river and the people Sindh/Sindhi into Hind/Hindi, which was then Hellenized into Indus, whence India.[citation needed]

By the way by looking at a simple map you'll see that Ahvaz is 150km away from the Persian Gulf , at the shore of persian Gulf we have Khoram-Shahr and Abadan

 

[King Solomon]

I think the name should remain Persian Gulf. Ancient Archemeid empire was a great Naval power also all of the successor empires.

Even today, Iranian navy is stronger than all Arab navies.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

How about we just call it Arab-Persian Gulf and end this nonsense?

 

[RayKalm]

How about we just call it Arab-Persian Gulf and end this nonsense?

Because both sides will fill their pants fighting it out even if it's called that.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Because you don't just come and cram your name in something that it isn't yours just like that. Hell even the Iranian side has the Arabic "Ahwaz" bordering it making it even more Arab than it is Iranian.

This is historical facts vs Persian manipulation.

apart from the royal families, arent there many Iranian-origin Arabic speaking citizens in the gulf?

for example Kuwait and Bahrain....i'm not 100% knowledgable on this petty issue so don't take my word for it.


why do you people have so much hatred for eachother? Leave history in the dusty history books, live your lives and move on. Muslims shouldnt be fighting eachother over the name of a body of water.. For God's sakes.

 

[Hack-Hook]

How about we just call it Arab-Persian Gulf and end this nonsense?

because that's also a Fake name and we don't like fakes .

apart from the royal families, arent there many Iranian-origin Arabic speaking citizens in the gulf?

for example Kuwait and Bahrain....i'm not 100% knowledgable on this petty issue so don't take my word for it.


why do you people have so much hatred for eachother? Leave history in the dusty history books, live your lives and move on. Muslims shouldnt be fighting eachother over the name of a body of water.. For God's sakes.

you see , wee are living our life but some people like to poke us .if the let us alone we have nothing to do with them

 

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[Mosamania]

some source please

Breasted، Page 284. regarding the "Sea of the Earth God name"
Luckenbill D.D. 1924. The Annals of Sennacherib. Chicago، page 35 & 38. regarding "The sea of the great Sunshine name"
Winckler، H. 1889. Die Keilschrittexte Sargons. Leipzig، page 37. Regarding "The sea of Kuldan land" name.
King، L.W. 1907 Chronicles Of Ealry Bablylonian King. London vol. II page 131. Regarding the Babylonian name.
Arab Seafaring in the Indian Ocean in Ancient and Early Medieval Times by George Fadlo.
Persian Gulf: An Historical Sketch from the Earliest Times to the Beginning of the Twentieth Century
The Natural History by Pliny the Younger.
.Qattif h Kattifh Catifah Qateef hKatif h Qatif
The Equator Rule by Dr.Mahmoud Idrees.
Minorsky V. and Al-Alam H. 1937. The regions of the world، A Parsion geography. London، page 52.
The Golden Bubble: Arabian Gulf by Roderic Owen.
Reisebeschreibung nach Arabien und anderen umliegenden Ländern