PDF's obsession about KSA's (Arabs in general) trade ties with India - Arabs winning the trade war

[UKBengali]

Vast majority of Indians in KSA are Muslim. You don't seem to understand that simple fact. The numbers of Indians in KSA is negligible and let us be honest, India is more powerful/has a far greater economy than all of the other South Asian nations combined. That won't change in the future either due to India's massive population.

KSA is not part of your South Asian rivalries similar to how you lot don't care about internal Arab/Middle Eastern rivalries by large.

You are still helping India by taking in Indian Muslims as that money goes back into India.
Better to take in just as qualified Pakistani and BD Muslims.


We do not care about Arab issues?LOL

BD and Pakistan do not recognise that illegal Jewish settler entity that occupies Palestine out of love for the Ummah.


Indian economy is flopping now as their IT cannot sustain them anymore - growth has crashed down to less than 5% a year and they have more interest in killing Muslims than trying to fix their economy.

 

[pakpride00090]

Guys, can you ever take a stock of how you guys mismanaged your foreign policy and always blame others for your own failure??

India was literally a pariah state for the entire world just like another poor, uninfluential country till 2000. Pakistan was a golden boy of Arab nations throughout your history. But your problem is that you never use your friendship to your economic advantage. This is my honest assessment of Pakistan...You are friend of US, Arabs and China at same way till 2000. Why did you not use your friendship to bring investment, trade and other incentives rather you choose to make every relationship as a transactional one.

I am sure even today, it is not like Arabs have any special love for Indian, rather they hire anyone who contribute to their economy...So who was stopping you to invite Gulf nations and be part of growth story by making an investment in Pakistan what China is doing post-2000 in Pakistan.... If you can provide good environment for growth and profit, i am not sure all the Arab investors will jump to your country to share the benefit...

Agree with your assessment..

In words of Lt gen Asad Durrani , Pakistan has always undersold itself and never took advantage of its geo-strategic position to maximum extent...

You are on point.

 

[Kaniska]

Actually you are not looking at the true picture.

Most of India's deficit with KSA/GCC is due to oil imports. It is not like India can easily replace such a large supplier like the Arabs.

In 2018 these were the largest oil exporters to India:

1. Iraq 23 billion US dollars
2. Saudi Arabia 21.2 billion US dollars
3. Iran 13 billion US dollars

See India is stuck with the Arabs and could not retaliate as there would be no alternative suppliers who could provide anywhere near the extra oil.

But you have a massive trump card - you could easily replace the Indian labour with people from Muslim countries like Pakistan and BD to a great extent. If Indians somehow dared to reduce oil imports from Arabs, then just kick out those resident Indians and replace with Muslims from Pakistan and BD who could do the jobs just as good.


You sold out Palestine to Zionists which kind of makes sense as you are in alliance with them against Iran, but no idea why you patronise Hinduvta India at all!!

It is your own inherent bias that is subscribing to ideas that Gulf and India relation is one dimensional...This exact mindset is the problem....Why do not ask other way around, that who can replace India for buying Oil from SA if SA stops selling Oil to India just because our fellow estemmed BD people think that it is a sin to sell Oil to Hindu Indian....

Neither Arabs has any love for Indian not the reverse is true...Economic and trade interest always drive economic relation between 2 nation...

 

[StormBreaker]

Guys, can you ever take a stock of how you guys mismanaged your foreign policy and always blame others for your own failure??

India was literally a pariah state for the entire world just like another poor, uninfluential country till 2000. Pakistan was a golden boy of Arab nations throughout your history. But your problem is that you never use your friendship to your economic advantage. This is my honest assessment of Pakistan...You are friend of US, Arabs and China at same way till 2000. Why did you not use your friendship to bring investment, trade and other incentives rather you choose to make every relationship as a transactional one.

I am sure even today, it is not like Arabs have any special love for Indian, rather they hire anyone who contribute to their economy...So who was stopping you to invite Gulf nations and be part of growth story by making an investment in Pakistan what China is doing post-2000 in Pakistan.... If you can provide good environment for growth and profit, i am not sure all the Arab investors will jump to your country to share the benefit...

Perhaps, if i had the ability to give out +ve rating, this post would have got it.

I can only mourn for this absurd past...

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

It’s a difference of mentality (either you take Alpha stance or a beta, submissive role). GCC could have use this situation to their advantage show their leverage over India (like US) Instead they make the wrong moves an exposed their state of vulnerability.

Basically telling India, Pakistan ditched us (in Yemen), now we are all your’s daddy.

Now India thinks it got leverage on GCC because in Arabs minds, they are running out of oil and investment is their backup plan for survival. Ain’t nothing much coming out of that desert once oil dry up.

KSA has the most natural and mineral wealth in the world after Russia and USA. Trillions upon trillions of USD worth of wealth. It will take millennia for that to somehow disappear and by that time KSA will be a very advanced economy. Nowadays oil's role for KSA's economy is diminishing each day.

Moreover few countries in the world has as big an alternative energy potential as KSA has. So we are in very save hands.

KSA/GCC has the leverage over India, not the other way around.

Arabia has been self-sufficient since the first humans outside of Africa migrated to Arabia and from there to the remaining world. We are embarking on self-sufficiency on all fronts and we have the land, resources, location etc. to succeed big time. All that is needed is political will. You should not really be worrying. Our people are survivors per excellence. History has proven this time and time again and so have our enormous accomplishments in history often despite odds against us.

 

[pakpride00090]

Vast majority of Indians in KSA are Muslim. You don't seem to understand that simple fact. The numbers of Indians in KSA is negligible and let us be honest, India is more powerful/has a far greater economy than all of the other South Asian nations combined. That won't change in the future either due to India's massive population.

KSA is not part of your South Asian rivalries similar to how you lot don't care about internal Arab/Middle Eastern rivalries by large.

Unfortunately we do otherwise raheel wouldn't be commanding the so called alliance and neither our troops would have been in KSA.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

You’re welcome to prove me wrong...

You are the one that made an empty claim that you cannot back up by anything. You should prove this imaginary pressure.

Unfortunately we do otherwise raheel wouldn't be commanding the so called alliance and neither our troops would have been in KSA.

You know just as well as me that this "command" is useless and plays no role in practice. As for Pakistani soldiers in KSA, they are almost non-existent and play no big role either. Mostly retired officers looking for a paycheck or advisors.

 

[pakpride00090]

You are still helping India by taking in Indian Muslims as that money goes back into India.
Better to take in just as qualified Pakistani and BD Muslims.


We do not care about Arab issues?LOL?

BD and Pakistan do not recognise that illegal Jewish settler entity that occupies Palestine out of love for the Ummah.


Indian economy is flopping now as their IT cannot sustain them anymore - growth has crashed down to less than 5% a year and they have more interest in killing Muslims than trying to fix their economy.

5% is fake figure..It is probably half than that... Modi and his government has fudged the GDP numbers

 

[Kaniska]

Agree with your assessment..

In words of Lt gen Asad Durrani , Pakistan has always undersold itself and never took advantage of its geo-strategic position to maximum extent...

You are on point.

Exactly....Forget about Indo Pak rivalry, if you guys allow your IK to survive for next 10 years, he will make Pakistan another Indonesia or Turkey for you... Pakistan wasted their entire 70 years with a making foreign policy which is more oriented towards defense and security...So you guys underestimated the importance of economy...

But you guys should be happy that we are following your footsteps that you have done prior to 2000, in the last 5 year....

 

[pakpride00090]

You are the one that made an empty claim that you cannot back up by anything. You should prove this imaginary pressure.



You know just as well as me that this "command" is useless and plays no role in practice. As for Pakistani soldiers in KSA, they are almost non-existent and play no big role either. Mostly retired officers looking for a paycheck or advisors.

I guess we should recognize Israel then , it is only because of arab interest that we haven't . I guess participating in Arab-israeli wars was a mistake too.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

You are still helping India by taking in Indian Muslims as that money goes back into India.
Better to take in just as qualified Pakistani and BD Muslims.


We do not care about Arab issues?LOL

BD and Pakistan do not recognise that illegal Jewish settler entity that occupies Palestine out of love for the Ummah.


Indian economy is flopping now as their IT cannot sustain them anymore - growth has crashed down to less than 5% a year and they have more interest in killing Muslims than trying to fix their economy.

As if that changed anything on the ground in Palestine. Just useless statements. You are free to cooperate with Israel. That country is an Arab country ethnically (25% are Arab Muslims and 2/3's of all Israeli Jews are Arab Jews or partially Arab Jews and I am the first one that looks forward to KSA establishing close ties with our cousins in Israel).

India is not an enemy of KSA or Arabs. Never was. Why is that so difficult to understand? India is poised to become a top 3 economy in the world and to become the most populous nation in the world. Why should we antagonize it?

 

[M.Bison]

Pakistan as a nation and people should stop relying on the GCC countries. The GCC has tried to use Islam and religion to its advantage in the past. Now the leaders are coke heads and they don't care about maintaining relationship with other Muslim countries. Some of the greatest humanitarian disasters are being committed by GCC and the Arab countries. Look at Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Libya and the greatest crime is Palestine. GCC is a force for bad in the Islamic world.

It will be really tough in the short them but in the long term it will only make Pakistan stronger. Pakistan's weak economy makes it vulnerable to these countries. Many of these nations can't survive one day without the help of USA or Israel especially KSA. It has already been foretold that Arabs will be destroyed completely so why bet on someone on the wrong side of history?

 

[Saddam Hussein]

^^ this nigga above is ready to worship Erdogan and Turkey now

It has become very easy to see this pattern, it has become so obvious that it bores me to point it out

Our task is to Arabize in every field and domain; Arabization in terms of a growing population of Arabs, Arabization on the industrial and economical level, Arabization of our neighbors through religion and linguistics etc. That's all that matters, get to work boys.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

It is your own inherent bias that is subscribing to ideas that Gulf and India relation is one dimensional...This exact mindset is the problem....Why do not ask other way around, that who can replace India for buying Oil from SA if SA stops selling Oil to India just because our fellow estemmed BD people think that it is a sin to sell Oil to Hindu Indian....

Neither Arabs has any love for Indian not the reverse is true...Economic and trade interest always drive economic relation between 2 nation...

The 200 + million Indian Muslims have a love for Arabs and a religious, cultural, linguistic and a minority ethnic/ancestral affinity. As for Arabs views against Indians, they are neutral although most Arabs have never met an Indian in their life and know very little about India and Indians. Only those of us in the GCC are familiar with Indians and that too mostly superficially.

 

[pakpride00090]

KSA has the most natural and mineral wealth in the world after Russia and USA. Trillions upon trillions of USD worth of wealth. It will take millennia for that to somehow disappear and by that time KSA will be a very advanced economy. Nowadays oil's role for KSA's economy is diminishing each day.

Moreover few countries in the world has as big an alternative energy potential as KSA has. So we are in very save hands.

KSA/GCC has the leverage over India, not the other way around.

Arabia has been self-sufficient since the first humans outside of Africa migrated to Arabia and from there to the remaining world. We are embarking on self-sufficiency on all fronts and we have the land, resources, location etc. to succeed big time. All that is needed is political will. You should not really be worrying. Our people are survivors per excellence. History has proven this time and time again and so have our enormous accomplishments in history often despite odds against us.

Lmao at " self - sufficiency"

Economy run by migrants.
Defense outsourced to Americans.