Pakistan - Turkey (PAC-TAI) Collaboration for NGFA-TFX 5th Gen Aircraft l Updates, News & Discussion

[manpk77]

Stop acting like a dumbass Greek and read the article b4 asking the dumbest questions.
Again dumbo if you read it tells you when and why they are using f110? Duuuuhhh

This is what the article says. o bhai ye sab hyped hay.

TAI/TR Motor is trying to locally develop every critical piece of the turbofan engines, including the difficult components, such as the turbine and crystal blades…

 

[Trango Towers]

This is what the article says. o bhai ye sab hyped hay.

So what did u understand by that?

That they cannot make the difficult component?? Why did u come to that conclusion?

TUBITAK Develops a Prototype Turbine Blade for the Engine of the Domestic Airplane | Destek Patent

1983 yılından beri edindiğimiz bilgi ve birikiminin gücüyle marka, patent, tasarım vekilliği ve danışmanlığı alanların...

www.destekpatent.com

 

[manpk77]

and TEI says we have technology to develop 35.000 lbf turbofan Engine to power the TFX Fighter Jet

step by step ..
first 10.000 lbf TF-10.000 turbofan engine to power KIZILELMA
then 35.000 lbf turbofan Engine to power the TFX Fighter Jet

They why TAI and BAE are installing GE F110 engines?

 

[Titanium100]

So what did u understand by that?

That they cannot make the difficult component?? Why did u come to that conclusion?

TUBITAK Develops a Prototype Turbine Blade for the Engine of the Domestic Airplane | Destek Patent

1983 yılından beri edindiğimiz bilgi ve birikiminin gücüyle marka, patent, tasarım vekilliği ve danışmanlığı alanların...

www.destekpatent.com

He is a troll nothing more or less

 

[Trango Towers]

They why TAI and BAE are installing GE F110 engines?

Oh dear...I am done...you are stupid.

Go ask mummy for hot milk and go to sleep

 

[Titanium100]

They why TAI and BAE are installing GE F110 engines?

They said they will develope it locally a brown new one how hard is it to understand that part unless you can't read on the article

 

[MMM-E]

Ever heard of LM RQ170 or Sukhoi S 70 Okhotnik or Dassault nEURON or Ghatak?

They are same design flying wing Jet powered UCAV ... nothing else

but KIZILELMA is unmanned stealth Fighter Jet to carry even air to air missiles and GaN based AESA Radar for air to air combat as like Chinese J-20 5th gen Fighter Jet

KIZILELMA and J-20

Single crystal is 35 years old technology.

And only USA,UK,France,Turkiye,China have single crystal turbine blade and bliks technologies in the world

 

[manpk77]

That they cannot make the difficult component?? Why did u come to that conclusion?

barkhodar they are stuck with that, that's why they are going for GE engines.

 

[Beny Karachun]

They have already belted out an un-manned 5th gen fighter via Baykatar company

Who said it's 5th generation?

 

[Trango Towers]

barkhodar they are stuck with that, that's why they are going for GE engines.

OK...back to your village and looking after the goats...bye bye

Who said it's 5th generation?

You are correct until Israel certifies it as 5th gen its generation 0

 

[Titanium100]

Who said it's 5th generation?

It is stealth fighter like most 5th generation fighters and matches their inner design.. It is 5th generation unmammed fighter aircraft

 

[Beny Karachun]

It is stealth fighter like most 5th generation fighters and matches their inner design.. It is 5th generation unmammed fighter aircraft

Who said it's stealth?
It has no supercruise, hell it's subsonic, nothing is known about its sensors let alone sensor fusion, nothing is known about its heat signature.

Doesn't really look any better than the pseudo-5th generation Su-57 in my eyes until proven otherwise.

 

[manpk77]

That they cannot make the difficult component?? Why did u come to that conclusion?

What is the reason for TAI to give repeated requests to Rolls Royce, GE and Eurojet to have joint development of engines then? It's been 5 years and they haven't done anything yet.

Prototypes are not a finalized product get that clear, its not suitable for military operations!

Instead TAi is installing readymade engines from GE.

 

[Titanium100]

Who said it's stealth?
It has no supercruise, hell it's subsonic, nothing is known about its sensors let alone sensor fusion, nothing is known about its heat signature.

Doesn't really look any better than the pseudo-5th generation Su-57 in my eyes until proven otherwise.

Proven how.. Before it eats all other 5th gen fighters and conquers the air? Like TB2 conquered drones..

Russian tech is trash don't compare that to Turkish tech..

The truth is that this is the only stealth unmanned fighter in the world period

What is the reason for TAI to give repeated requests to Rolls Royce, GE and Eurojet to have joint development of engines then? It's been 5 years and they haven't done anything yet.

Prototypes are not a finalized product get that clear, its not suitable for military operations!

Instead TAi is installing readymade engines from GE.

You are bringing irrelevant tried arguments which they took the time to expel by highlighting it is gonna be indigenous..

You folks said this about Kizilzama now it's up and flying.. Then you switch to MMU and it will be up an flying soon.. What will be next?

Watch for your own delight

 

[MMM-E]

Who said it's stealth?
It has no supercruise, hell it's subsonic, nothing is known about its sensors let alone sensor fusion, nothing is known about its heat signature.

Turkiye has started developing KIZILELMA in 2021 and first flight in 2022 ...( just 1 year )

KIZILELMA will have 3 variants including twin engined variant
just wait and see until 2025


subsonic speed of mach 0.6 with AI-25TLT turbofan Engine

supersonic speed of mach 1,35 with AI-322F turbofan Engine
supersonic speed of mach 2 with 2 x AI-322F turbofan Engines



KIZILELMA to have same advanced characteristics as 5th-generation Fighters

-- High situational awareness with EOTS and AESA Radar
-- Stealth design featuring a low radar signature
-- Internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence



The RCS value for KIZILELMA could be between 0.1m2 and 0.003m2

-- KIZILELMA has a monocoque composite body. It means the body is a single piece without any rough surfaces. This improves stealth capability incredibly

-- The RAM paint to reduce the RCS value of the KIZILELMA

-- KIZILELMA will carry air to air missiles in the internal weapon stations for stealth flight capability

even if KIZILELMA with RCS of 0.1 m2

F-16V with AN-APG-83 AESA Radar can detect KIZILELMA from 60-65 km away
RAFALE with RBE2 AESA Radar can detect KIZILELMA from 60-70 km away

on the other hand KIZILELMA with MURAD AESA Radar can detect F-16V and RAFALE from 120+ km away

Even 20 km is impressive when you realize the KIZILELMA has already killed the 4th gen Fighters Rafale , F-16V , F-15 , SU-35 a couple times before you visually IDed him.