Pakistan should replace F-16 with F-35 ?

[SBD-3]

India is attracting a FII of more than $22 billion per year,and most of it flow from U.S,we r very well developing our industries,only u r not aware of it

even with economic growth at stagnancy Pakistan was able to attract 2.15 Billion USD in FDI (exclusive of Personal and Portfolio Investment) in 2010. Given the size of Indian Economy is almost 10times the Pakistan Economy, its not a bad performance at all. Our FX reserves are now at record high of 17 Billions. So eventhough economy has faced serious shocks by Taliban and Flood. The resilience of Pakistan Economy is very appreciative.
http://www.sbp.org.pk/ecodata/NIFP_Arch/index.asp

 

[rikki]

dont be so depressed, you know we will be going FC-20 by 2015. I think you would have been visiting Indian foras lately thats why you have such an outdated 90s information at your hand

congrats in advance

 

[SBD-3]

congrats in advance

thank you very much...I hope the wishes are right from heart

 

[Jungibaaz]

congrats in advance

thank you! you see this is what happeneds when people are proven wrong, get frustrated and have to resort to ridiculing and laughing.

 

[gypgypgyp]

even with economic growth at stagnancy Pakistan was able to attract 2.15 Billion USD in FDI (exclusive of Personal and Portfolio Investment) in 2010. Given the size of Indian Economy is almost 10times the Pakistan Economy, its not a bad performance at all. Our FX reserves are now at record high of 17 Billions. So eventhough economy has faced serious shocks by Taliban and Flood. The resilience of Pakistan Economy is very appreciative.
State Bank of Pakistan - The Central Bank

Actually Pakistan has some upper hand in economy like coal resource.


By US energy information administration estimation, coal demand in asia will increase 176% in next 20 years.

All major coal importer locate in asia, like China/Japan/Korean/Inida.

and now, we have tech turn Sub-bituminous coal to bituminous coal. It is significant change in coal industry.

 

[xuwei]

maybe someone released wrong information on purpose in order to misdirect the netspy.let's be honest ,we can't be sure of most these guy's assertion ,all we know about J-XX project is based on deputy commander 's interview and the technology being used on J10,JF17,and there are so many unpredictable risks ahead of road，china's aviation industry is still very weak especially when compared to traditional aviation powers ,so it's very understandable that some pakistani and chinese would question the capability of AVIC.we should keep learning experiences from U.S ,russia and remain modest and prudent

I'm very confidence of Chinese Aviation Industry.
Factly,we used to learn from Ruassa,but now,we are not following it.It is out.Israel,America teached us how to delelope a fighter.Western standards is using in our craft project.
And with the strong growing of Chinese economic,we input more and more money in Aviaton Industry.
For example:ARJ21,C919.
In these international cooperationproject,China give them much money,but we learn western's technology,Design concept,process and so on.
Generally,Chinese Aviation Industry is on the rapid development way.

 

[SBD-3]

Actually Pakistan has some upper hand in economy like coal resource.


By US energy information administration estimation, coal demand in asia will increase 176% in next 20 years.

All major coal importer locate in asia, like China/Japan/Korean/Inida.

and now, we have tech turn Sub-bituminous coal to bituminous coal. It is significant change in coal industry.

but I think most of the coal in thar is sub bituminous, I ve heard expert suggesting to let the coal convert into more refined form (e.g bituminous or preferably anthracite) for maximum benefit...

 

[Archie]

I am wondering why this thread has not been closed yet
Its loaded with Fantasy , Troll and BS posts

Frankly u have to think logically
Even if US agrees to sell F35 which i dont think is possible before 2025 , how do u plan to pay for them
Now considering the Fact that one of the earliest customer of F35 ie Israel will be aying 3.2 Billion USD for 24 F35 being delivered in 2016 ie 133 Million USD per aircraft
how much do u think it will cost pakistan , as US subsidizes defense sale to Israel , my guess is that it will eventually cost Pakistan 150 Million USD per aircraft if and when US decides to sell it to pak

USA has ordered 2400 F35 while NATO allies have ordered a further 1000 aircraft , with LockHeed Martin producing 3000 F35 @ 200 Aircraft a year starting 2015 , as per this Production schedule PAF has best chance of acquiring F35 only by 2030 , Unless US decides to provide some aircrafts marked for USAF to the PAF

A more realistic scenario will be PAF acquiring 36 JXX /J14 by 2027 with deliveries beginning in 2025 all of them at the cost of 100 Million USD each , either on soft loan or through cash payment considering that Pakistan economy would be around 400 Billion USD in 2025 against 180 Billion USD today , with a defense budget of 20 Billion USD

 

[waraich66]

I am wondering why this thread has not been closed yet
Its loaded with Fantasy , Troll and BS posts

Frankly u have to think logically
Even if US agrees to sell F35 which i dont think is possible before 2025 , how do u plan to pay for them
Now considering the Fact that one of the earliest customer of F35 ie Israel will be aying 3.2 Billion USD for 24 F35 being delivered in 2016 ie 133 Million USD per aircraft
how much do u think it will cost pakistan , as US subsidizes defense sale to Israel , my guess is that it will eventually cost Pakistan 150 Million USD per aircraft if and when US decides to sell it to pak

USA has ordered 2400 F35 while NATO allies have ordered a further 1000 aircraft , with LockHeed Martin producing 3000 F35 @ 200 Aircraft a year starting 2015 , as per this Production schedule PAF has best chance of acquiring F35 only by 2030 , Unless US decides to provide some aircrafts marked for USAF to the PAF

A more realistic scenario will be PAF acquiring 36 JXX /J14 by 2027 with deliveries beginning in 2025 all of them at the cost of 100 Million USD each , either on soft loan or through cash payment considering that Pakistan economy would be around 400 Billion USD in 2025 against 180 Billion USD today , with a defense budget of 20 Billion USD

JXX or other Chinies fighter could not fullfill our defence requirement by 2020 when India and Israel both have Fifth generation fighter in service.

Pakistan can buy 50 F35 in time frame of five years by 2015 to 2020 with expenditure of 2 Billion USD per year.

These F35 fighter will remain in service or next 50 years.

 

[SBD-3]

JXX or other Chinies fighter could not fullfill our defence requirement by 2020 when India and Israel both have Fifth generation fighter in service.

Pakistan can buy 50 F35 in time frame of five years by 2015 to 2020 with expenditure of 2 Billion USD per year.

These F35 fighter will remain in service or next 50 years.

but for this we will need your help....please discover an Oil field for us

 

[Jungibaaz]

JXX or other Chinies fighter could not fullfill our defence requirement by 2020 when India and Israel both have Fifth generation fighter in service.

Pakistan can buy 50 F35 in time frame of five years by 2015 to 2020 with expenditure of 2 Billion USD per year.

These F35 fighter will remain in service or next 50 years.

The Us doesn't let us by super hornets, what makes you think we they'd let us buy this???

 

[SBD-3]

The Us doesn't let us by super hornets, what makes you think we they'd let us buy this???

dont you know....he has a "plan"....he mentioned it some pages back

 

[Jungibaaz]

dont you know....he has a "plan"....he mentioned it some pages back

I honestly would state again why we can't get these planes but I gave up already, not worth my time.

 

[gypgypgyp]

JXX or other Chinies fighter could not fullfill our defence requirement by 2020 when India and Israel both have Fifth generation fighter in service.

Pakistan can buy 50 F35 in time frame of five years by 2015 to 2020 with expenditure of 2 Billion USD per year.

These F35 fighter will remain in service or next 50 years.

It is nearly impossible for PAF get F-35 before 2030

F-35 order by now


Australia 100unit
Canada 80 unit
USAF 1763 unit
USAN 340 unit
USA marine 340 unit
Israel 25 unit + 50 option
Italy 131 unit
Norway 48 unit
Holland 85 unit
UK 138 unit
Turkey 116 unit



Lockheed Martin plan build 300 F-35 per year in next decade,and then F-35 will start sales to non-partner country. There are a lot wealthy country compete with Pakistan like Japan /Korean /Brazil. They can pay a lot more and close political tie with US.

 

[Materialistic]

dont you know....he has a "plan"....he mentioned it some pages back

Common bro, its simple logic no rocket science.

If we keep ourself stickin to US. we'll surely get F-35s not only this but also F-22s for WOETT (War On Extraterrestrial Terrorists) in 2040. When US and its allies will opt for F-355 SpaceBOLt and F-2222 Galactic Raptor.

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the other more practical & possible solution would be to work on our economy and be partners in projects with China, such as J-XX