Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

[Aamir Hussain]

PLAN orders for type 54A are done with. I believe last one is about to be rolled off of the slips. They will be switching to producing the definitive version of Type 54 the B version (or some say this to be type 57?? i don't know).

Therefore, Hudong and Huangpu shipyards will have some slips vacant. I foresee fast delivery timelines.

 

[帅的一匹]

It can't be type 54b

 

[Basel]

It can't be type 54b
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What is different between A & B version?

 

[LKJ86]

Maybe a export version for a third party?

A third party? Which one?

 

[帅的一匹]

A third part? Which one?

I don't know, I just guess.

 

[CHI RULES]

Some of the items for the Milgem have already been ordered (Power-plant 8xMTU Diesels and 4xLM 2500 Gas Turbines, 4x Oto Melara Super Rapid 76mm Main Gun etc.) ... SIPRI lists these items. Unless now being used in Type 54A this purchase seems to point towards a done deal on Milgem. My 2C worth

Sir Type 54A as explained shall have same specs as Chinese, however it is stated that Milgems shall be provided to PN unarmed so obvious that gadgets are for Milgems.

 

[LKJ86]

What is different between A & B version?

Who knows.

 

[帅的一匹]

What is different between A & B version?

1. One 1130CIWS at the front to replace two 730CIWS at the flank
2. HQ10 PDMS at the top of back hanger
3. Able to carry Z20 ASW helicopter
4. Small integrated radio frequency mast
5. Full electric propulsion with CODAG power system
6. Quadri pack ESSM

The full replacement tonnage of type 54b will be 4700+, below 5000.

If it can hold HQ9 SAM, then it's a destroyer.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

I find some new pictures:
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The left one is very special.
It is not the same as ones for PLAN and China Coast Guard.
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Not Type 54A.

 

[waz]

We will, by the end of the expansion program in 2024, as it is panning out now, we will have:

4 x Type 54A
4 x F22p
4 ADA Milgem
1 x OHP (Needs to get revamped/upgraded or reverted to training ship. It has huge spaces for upgrade n with Turkish input can be very good platform.)
2 x Damen OPV 1800 Corvette
2 x Swiftship 75m Swift Corvette
8 x Diesel Electric Song Class?
3 x Retrofit Agosta 90B
1+1 Fleet Tankers (Fuqing n Turkish Fleet Tanker)
4 x Azmat Class FCA(M)
2 x Jurrat Class FAC(M)
2 x Jalalat Class FAC (M)
2 X MRTP 33
3 x Munsif Class Minesweepers

12 major surface combatants and 11 Subs. Pretty solid n modern fleet. Some tweaking is required in AAW n ASW warfare capability. Helo ASW capability needs to be enhanced.

Both Amazon class n Agosta 70's will be retired

I'd hope to see a signing for four Typ54B's in a few years, or even light frigates. Numbers are important in light of the greater responsibilities upon the PN. Oh by the way one fantastic aspect of all this is that the fleet is virtually all brand new.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Little bit off topic but it is for those who feel Milgem sub systems will be an issue:

Gun 1 x 76mm/62cal OTO Melara Super Rapid main gun Already ordered from Italy
2 x 12.7mm Aselsan (STAMPS) Turkish Mfg.
AAW RIM 116 RAM (Here there is a problem) Maybe use Chinese FT 3000
AShM 8 x RGM-84L Harpoon II missiles We already have them
ASW 2 x Mk32 324mm torp. launchers for Mk46/Mk54 ASW torps. Use YU-7 Eqvl. to Mk46 Mod 2
Sensors Thales SMART-S Mk2 3D multi-beam S-band radar Mfg. locally by Aselsan
Thales STING-EO Mk2 I/K-band FCS (radar and electro-optic) French not an issue
Sperry Marine VisionMaster FT S-band navigation radar US can be a problem
Aselsan ALPER X-band radar Turkish Not an issue
Aselsan ASELFLIR-300T advanced targeting system Turkish not an issue
Counter Measures Aselsan Laser Warning Receiver (LIAS) Turkish not an issue
Aselsan ARES-2N (ESM) Turkish not an issue
BAE Mk36 (SRBOC) chaff and decoy system UK Defensive Syst.
Ultra Electronics Sea Sentor Surface Ship Torp. Defense US Defensive Syst.
Aselsan HIZIR torpedo countermeasure system Turkish not an issue
Other Havelsan GENESIS combat management system (CMS) We have it for FFG7
Yaltes UNIMACS 3000 integrated control monitoring system Turkish not a issue
OSI Geospatial digital chart integrated nav. system Canadian
Aselsan X-band SATCOM terminals Turkish not an issue
1 x S-70B Seahawk helicopter which can carry
AGM-119 Penguin Mk2 anti-ship missiles, AGM-114 Hellfire
missiles, UMTAS missiles, and Mk46 and Mk54
anti-submarine torpedoes US. Need to find a replacement

furthermore the reason we are not getting the VLS is because Turkey cant sell Evolved Sea Sparrow to a Non NATO customer. And the ADA VLS is built around it

I'd hope to see a signing for four Typ54B's in a few years, or even light frigates. Numbers are important in light of the greater responsibilities upon the PN. Oh by the way one fantastic aspect of all this is that the fleet is virtually all brand new.

Yep true. From the inception of PN we have been using hand me downs.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

It can't be type 54b
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That type 54b is a beautiful ship.
Congratz to pak members on this 54a acquisition,its a good ship.Versatile,reliable and affordable.Similar in role to our talwar class.

 

[LKJ86]

That type 54b is a beautiful ship.
Congratz to pak members on this 54a acquisition,its a good ship.Versatile,reliable and affordable.Similar in role to our talwar class.

I don't think the ship in that CG is beautiful.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

I don't think the ship in that CG is beautiful.

I do.Its clean and compact.Only complaint is maybe VLS for the a-ship missiles.I hate ships with antennas and weapons all over the place.

 

[Daniel808]

We will, by the end of the expansion program in 2024, as it is panning out now, we will have:

4 x Type 54A
4 x F22p
4 ADA Milgem
1 x OHP (Needs to get revamped/upgraded or reverted to training ship. It has huge spaces for upgrade n with Turkish input can be very good platform.)
2 x Damen OPV 1800 Corvette
2 x Swiftship 75m Swift Corvette
8 x Diesel Electric Song Class?
3 x Retrofit Agosta 90B
1+1 Fleet Tankers (Fuqing n Turkish Fleet Tanker)
4 x Azmat Class FCA(M)
2 x Jurrat Class FAC(M)
2 x Jalalat Class FAC (M)
2 X MRTP 33
3 x Munsif Class Minesweepers

12 major surface combatants and 11 Subs. Pretty solid n modern fleet. Some tweaking is required in AAW n ASW warfare capability. Helo ASW capability needs to be enhanced.

Both Amazon class n Agosta 70's will be retired

Need correction here.
Not Song Class SSK, but Pakistan Navy (PN) will get newer class, 8 unit Yuan Class Subs (Type 039A SSK) with AIP Technology (Air Independent Propulsion Technology) same version with China's Navy (PLAN) already have.