Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

[MilSpec]

I remember a year back (sorry to bore you folks) writing my concern on here about how Pakistan's greatest population centre is on the coast (Karachi), and how precious little there was to stop it being given on a platter to the Indian Navy. Just maybe either someone read what I and others wrote, or it was in the pipeline for a while. I just find it heartening and even wacky to think that maybe some ideas written on here do cross the minds of Pakistan's top brass.

But back to topic this for me honestly is the biggest and happiest news I have had the pleasure to read for a number of years, going as far back as the testing of Babur. Please hit a thanks if you agree.

Congrats, Very good acquisition for PN.
regards

 

[FuturePAF]

I Hope they upgrade the Radar in the Acqusition. The current radar is very much dated. A Ga-N AESA Radar like the SAAB Giraffae 4A would really help make out the smallest threats from a great distance with just one radar. Look at the difference between a Type 54A and the Type 45. mostly has to do with the radars.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UoyI3GuvW...ce+system+utilizing+the+SAMPSON+AESA++(3).jpg

 

[Armchair]

Little bit off topic but it is for those who feel Milgem sub systems will be an issue:

Gun 1 x 76mm/62cal OTO Melara Super Rapid main gun Already ordered from Italy
2 x 12.7mm Aselsan (STAMPS) Turkish Mfg.
AAW RIM 116 RAM (Here there is a problem) Maybe use Chinese FT 3000
AShM 8 x RGM-84L Harpoon II missiles We already have them
ASW 2 x Mk32 324mm torp. launchers for Mk46/Mk54 ASW torps. Use YU-7 Eqvl. to Mk46 Mod 2
Sensors Thales SMART-S Mk2 3D multi-beam S-band radar Mfg. locally by Aselsan
Thales STING-EO Mk2 I/K-band FCS (radar and electro-optic) French not an issue
Sperry Marine VisionMaster FT S-band navigation radar US can be a problem
Aselsan ALPER X-band radar Turkish Not an issue
Aselsan ASELFLIR-300T advanced targeting system Turkish not an issue
Counter Measures Aselsan Laser Warning Receiver (LIAS) Turkish not an issue
Aselsan ARES-2N (ESM) Turkish not an issue
BAE Mk36 (SRBOC) chaff and decoy system UK Defensive Syst.
Ultra Electronics Sea Sentor Surface Ship Torp. Defense US Defensive Syst.
Aselsan HIZIR torpedo countermeasure system Turkish not an issue
Other Havelsan GENESIS combat management system (CMS) We have it for FFG7
Yaltes UNIMACS 3000 integrated control monitoring system Turkish not a issue
OSI Geospatial digital chart integrated nav. system Canadian
Aselsan X-band SATCOM terminals Turkish not an issue
1 x S-70B Seahawk helicopter which can carry
AGM-119 Penguin Mk2 anti-ship missiles, AGM-114 Hellfire
missiles, UMTAS missiles, and Mk46 and Mk54
anti-submarine torpedoes US. Need to find a replacement

furthermore the reason we are not getting the VLS is because Turkey cant sell Evolved Sea Sparrow to a Non NATO customer. And the ADA VLS is built around it



Yep true. From the inception of PN we have been using hand me downs.

My guess is for the RAM, the substitute is:
Korkut
and / or
FL3000N
or
the local indigenous PDS

I have RUMINT reasons to believe the Korkut is a done deal. I also have reason to believe that the AShM will be the Harbah, saving valuable forex. The Harpoons will go into the Damen boats (there is only enough for 2x not 4x ships).

 

[Muhammad Omar]

1 question did they specifically mentioned Type 054A Frigate in singing the deal with China ??

Should have gone for this

 

[Aamir Hussain]

My guess is for the RAM, the substitute is:
Korkut
and / or
FL3000N
or
the local indigenous PDS

I have RUMINT reasons to believe the Korkut is a done deal. I also have reason to believe that the AShM will be the Harbah, saving valuable forex. The Harpoons will go into the Damen boats (there is only enough for 2x not 4x ships).

I believe MKEK Korkut SPAAG has not been tested in its Navalized version as yet.

 

[AMG_12]

I believe MKEK Korkut SPAAG has not been tested in its Navalized version as yet.

It was recently tested on one of Turkish warships. But may take more time to reach export maturity.

 

[Kamil_baku]

I believe MKEK Korkut SPAAG has not been tested in its Navalized version as yet.

Here is the video from the test

I Hope they upgrade the Radar in the Acqusition. The current radar is very much dated. A Ga-N AESA Radar like the SAAB Giraffae 4A would really help make out the smallest threats from a great distance with just one radar. Look at the difference between a Type 54A and the Type 45. mostly has to do with the radars.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UoyI3GuvW...ce+system+utilizing+the+SAMPSON+AESA++(3).jpg

Turkey just finished the ground test of AESA radar for TF2000 and naval tests will finish this year.
In the future, Pakistan can update their ship or may be purchase new ones with these radar which can detect 450km away and 1000 targets at the same time..

 

[Areesh]

1 question did they specifically mentioned Type 054A Frigate in singing the deal with China ??

Yes. They have mentioned Type 054a

 

[Aamir Hussain]

I believe MKEK Korkut SPAAG has not been tested in its Navalized version as yet.

I stand corrected. Our Turkish friends also corroborated your observation. Many thanks for the correction.

 

[Basel]

I Hope they upgrade the Radar in the Acqusition. The current radar is very much dated. A Ga-N AESA Radar like the SAAB Giraffae 4A would really help make out the smallest threats from a great distance with just one radar. Look at the difference between a Type 54A and the Type 45. mostly has to do with the radars.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UoyI3GuvW...ce+system+utilizing+the+SAMPSON+AESA++(3).jpg

4A will be good for larger ships, Sea Giraffae or Smart-S MK-2 are good option for 4000 ton ships.

 

[Zarvan]

1 question did they specifically mentioned Type 054A Frigate in singing the deal with China ??

Should have gone for this View attachment 478364

Posts says Type 54 but they could be distorting the name to hide real surpurised

 

[Max]

1 question did they specifically mentioned Type 054A Frigate in singing the deal with China ??

Should have gone for this View attachment 478364

untested good looking design vs Frigate already in Chinese service.. what will you chose?

 

[Muhammad Omar]

untested good looking design vs Frigate already in Chinese service.. what will you chose?

But that design one is upgraded version of the tested ones

 

[Max]

But that design one is upgraded version of the tested ones

Its not built yet, not seen any service. there can be many problems. design faults etc..

i would go for tested design.

 

[LKJ86]

But that design one is upgraded version of the tested ones

Almost a new one.
Just like 052B to 052C/D.