Pakistan Navy Submarine Force to Equal the Indian Navy’s in Numbers with Purchase of 8 Chinese Subs

[HAIDER]

Pakistan has finalized a deal to acquire eight Chinese-made S20 diesel-electric submarines for the Pakistan Navy, making this class of submarine the most numerous in the navy's Submarine Service Force (SSF) and giving the SSF numerical parity with its opposite number in India.

Under the deal with China, four of the ultra-quiet subs will be made at the Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works (KSEW) while the remaining four will be built in China. Four of the subs will be delivered by 2023 with the remainder by 2028.

The eight S20s will be capable of firing anti-ship missiles (ASMs) while submerged, an advantage enjoyed by its three sister submarines in the Khalid-class and two in the Agosta-70 class. The addition of the eight S20s will bring to 13 the number of modern submarines in the SSF.

The Khalid class can fire French-made Exocet missiles while the Agosta 70A subs can unleash United States Harpoon missiles. The S20s will most likely fire Chinese-made ASMs.

The original Chinese version of the S20, the Type 041 Yuan-class, can fire YJ-8 ASMs. The export version of the YJ-8, the C-802, was used by Yemeni Houthi rebels to attack a U.S. Navy destroyer three times this month in the Red Sea. All the C-802s missed their target.

The Type-041's torpedo armament includes Yu-4 (SAET-50) passive homing and Yu-3 (SET-65E) active/passive homing torpedoes.

The Type-041 is the quietest submarine in the People's Liberation Army Navy Submarine Force. The Type-041 is also known as the Type-039A in the PLAN, which operates 28 of these subs.

The 13 submarines in the SSF should be enough to deny the Indian Navy unrestricted operations in the Arabian Sea.

In contrast, the Indian Navy operates 14 submarines: 1 Chakra (Akula II)-class; 9 Sindhughosh (Russian Kilo)-class and 4 Shishumar (German Type 209/1500)-class.

Pakistan will pay up to $5 billion for the eight S20s. The Pakistan Navy is upgrading its undersea warfare capabilities in the face of an equal upgrading being undertaken by India.




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[war&peace]

It will take 12 more years for all the subs to arrive and by this time India will have 4-6 SSN, 12SSK, 4-5 SSBN

Also by 2028 The Agosta 70s which are already 37 year old will be nothing but a rusty cylinder.

So be happy then

 

[Viking 63]

still need big surface combat vessels !!

 

[DavidSling]

Which sub's will Pakistan get? and how are they compared to Indian and Israeli submarines?

 

[Dr Shaheryar]

And during these 12 years we are not going to procure anything else. Typical Indians with Indian Mentality. Let them be happy. By the way just to remind Pakistan has to tackle only India. Whereas India has to tackle both Pakistan and the Giant China. Therefore happy sailing for Indians.

 

[iby32]

Pakistan navy should idealy be
4 ssbn
12 ssk
12 ffg
6 ddg
20 corvets
3 squadrons of fighter jets of medium weight 4.5++ generation
If budget allow then to deny any aggressor specially indian dream of controlling arabean sea and naval blockade of pakistan

 

[Hassan Guy]

Pakistan navy should idealy be
4 ssbn
12 ssk
12 ffg
6 ddg
20 corvets
3 squadrons of fighter jets of medium weight 4.5++ generation
If budget allow then to deny any aggressor specially indian dream of controlling arabean sea and naval blockade of pakistan

And an Aircraft Carrier.

 

[iby32]

And an Aircraft Carrier.

We dont need ac as india is only next door. What i mentiond above is relisticaly we can buy for our forces if polticians are not croupt and puoets of india

 

[Zarvan]

And an Aircraft Carrier.

Not needed but he is right on other Ships. Specially when your enemy in next 10 to 15 years is going to have around 100 Major Ships. We need much much bigger Navy

 

[Hassan Guy]

Pakistan should move to develop it's own Submarines at home, SSK with AIP Systems and SSBN with Nuclear Propulsion.

Financially and Industrially A country like North Korea is able to develop it's own subs that can launch nuclear missiles. How hard would it be for Pakistan?

 

[Photon]

HOW ?

Pakistan currently has

3 Augasta 90 Subs
2 Augusta 70 subs.


India currently has

9 Kilo Class subs
4 HDW subs
1 Akula class SSN
1 Arihant class SSBN.

In the pipeline for Pakistan

8 Chinese Yuan class SSKs to delivered by 2028

In the pipeline for India

6 Scorpene SSKs Class to delivered by 2022.
6 P-75 SSKs to delivered by 2030.
3 more expanded Arihant class SSBNs under construction in Vizag
1 Akula class SSN under construction in Russia (deal signed in Goa)
5 Indigenous SSNs based on Arihant design.

 

[Hassan Guy]

HOW ?

Pakistan currently has

3 Augasta 90 Subs
2 Augusta 70 subs.


India currently has

9 Kilo Class subs
4 HDW subs
1 Akula class SSN
1 Arihant class SSBN.

In the pipeline for Pakistan

8 Chinese Yuan class SSKs to delivered by 2028

In the pipeline for India

6 Scorpene SSKs Class to delivered by 2022.
6 P-75 SSKs to delivered by 2030.
3 more expanded Arihant class SSBNs under construction in Vizag
1 Akula class SSN under construction in Russia (deal signed in Goa)
5 Indigenous SSNs based on Arihant design.

There is more in the pipeline, Pakistan is much more secretive about it's military projects then India.

 

[Photon]

There is more in the pipeline, Pakistan is much more secretive about it's military projects then India.

Dil behlane ko, khayaal acha hai.

But unless you come with something concrete like which subs , how many or when will they be delivered.

No one is going believe it.

 

[$@rJen]

There is more in the pipeline, Pakistan is much more secretive about it's military projects then India.

Lol... thise secrets revealed to u??? There's no secret once first 4 of the 8 subs delivered most of the PN's old subs will be retired..

Same for us we'll retire old german boats with scorpene while few of the kilo are being upgraded slowly.. Our Own SSN project is shaping up very well.. and expect the second Arihant sub will launched end this year while the 3rd old mostly next year.. and the Russian SSN... this are the current running peoject.. not to mention our own ssk and the next gen sub project..... there's nothing going to be equal for PN and IN....

Not needed but he is right on other Ships. Specially when your enemy in next 10 to 15 years is going to have around 100 Major Ships. We need much much bigger Navy

Zarvan bro.. calm down we'll know that's never going to happen given the budget of the navy.... operatinf cost of this 8 subs itself would close the PN budget... for 100 ship PN it'll take 3 4 decades

 

[Skyliner]

The original Chinese version of the S20, the Type 041 Yuan-class, can fire YJ-8 ASMs. The export version of the YJ-8, the C-802, was used by Yemeni Houthi rebels to attack a U.S. Navy destroyer three times this month in the Red Sea. All the C-802s missed their target.

Sir what does that part mean!
Export version is downgraded? Can we get Original version or we are getting export version.