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It is not China bro.....
Agosta 70 in a floating dock.
Is it home?
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It is not China bro.....
Agosta 70 in a floating dock.
Is it home?
Augusta 70 may be phased out not August 90 Sir but even their are news of Pakistan getting August 70 upgraded tooWhich are going to be phased out... although they were upgraded as stop gap measure till the new subs arrrrrive...
P.S: how many indian navy subs have AIPs? not even the ones you are looking for will have them... And how many are actually operational?
Augusta 70 may be phased out not August 90 Sir but even their are news of Pakistan getting August 70 upgraded too
That is a possiblity. after all the difference between pakistanis and indians is religion. I'm probably the only one here who thinks tech transfer to Pakistan is a no no. Yes, we can build previous weapons for them, but no tech transfer.
I wonder if other Chinese members agree? @cirr, @Chinese-Dragon, @rott, @Martian2, @Shutter
China has become 5th largest exporter of Defence Products because of Pakistan as its customer because 60% of Chinese Defence products are bought by Pakistan. This is the key reason why China Transfers Technology to Pakistan.
You can have an opinion on the subject but that is all it is worth, just your opinion as it is not factored into what happens on the Ground. Pakistan bought 3 subs from France and demanded TOT and got it. We continue to use whatever Source we can find and negotiate the deals that are most advantageous to us. You have a choice to sell us what we need or we will explore other choices as most rationale people do.
These are Market realities that have Dynamics of its own which you apparently are not able to Fathom.
there's a few reasons for that, that you are not taking into consideration.The US, England are strategic partners and allies, but they do not share latest tech transfer with one another. US does not offer their newest subs , fighters ,aircraft carrier to their most trusted allies.
There is zero chance of China and Pakistan ever fighting a war against each other, so I don't see any problem with tech transfer to Pakistan. And apparently the Chinese Government agrees, since we have transferred even strategic technology like nuclear and ballistic missile tech to Pakistan before.
Our defence exports will grow regardless, so it doesn't hurt our business either.
I agree with you 100%. China and Pakistan have been rock solid allies for over 60 years and the relationship continues to grow..
The reason for this solid and ever growing relationship is that the underlying basis of this relationship are very sound which negates the possibility of any conflict between are two countries.
There is simply no geo-strategic conflict between China and Pakistan, we have no territorial disputes, and we are not fighting for geopolitical influence in the region.
In fact, China and Pakistan's geopolitical interests are almost entirely aligned, and both of us stand to gain from the other side becoming stronger, since our interests are complimentary. If Pakistan's influence grows in the region, that benefits us.
China's leaders are smart enough to understand this, which is why China and Pakistan do a lot of "backroom deals" regarding strategic nuclear/ballistic missile technology. Now if that doesn't show the level of TRUST, I don't know what would.![]()
1. As per latest reports the first scropene under project 75 will be delivered in 2016 n the rest will follow with a gap of 9 months each so all 6 should be completed by 2020 most probably.
2. Under the upcoming $12 billion Project 75I, only 6 subs will be purchased n not 12. And the rate of construction in Project 75I will be many times higher in comparison to Project 75 bcoz 2 subs will be procured directly from foreign shipyard while the remaining 4 will be constructed in 2 shipyards in India.
3. At the time of Project 75 MDL didn't had much experience but the experience gained from scorpenes will come handy in Project 75I. Specially if we went for bigger scorpenes.
INS Chakra 2 and INS Arihant .
Akula II from Russia(lease) n INS Arihant currently under sea trails.
Are they in service, as in inducted?
Are they in service, as in inducted?
But none are inducted, right?
The US, England are strategic partners and allies, but they do not share latest tech transfer with one another. US does not offer their newest subs , fighters ,aircraft carrier to their most trusted allies.