Because we also have to have impress our arab 'brothers', don't we?
We can never impress them enough even if we turn into Taliban era Afghanistan.
Nahi yaar - I really don't have answers for this.
LOL!!! And Arab are ready to coordinate with them whenever it's in their interests. But generally they don't like democratic country near to them that's why they don't make formal relations. Otherwise they can easily mediate between Palestine & Israel.
The biggest threat Israel posses to Arab oil-garchy is a democratic one. Many oilsheikhs would absolutely hate to have their citizens explore Israel and have a WTF moment then revolt against incompetent Al Sauds, Khalifas, Hammads, Thanis, etc.
No doubt Pakistan is living and can live without Israel, but have relations mean we can access their technology (i am not talking about weapons), attract Investments, can negotiate with them to settle Palestine issue.
We should have friendly relations with every country on the planet unless they declare war upon us.
Pakistan doe not stand to gain much by establishing ties with Israel.
1. No matter what people on this forum like to say. We have been generally supportive of Arabs and have done more for them than was expected of us. No matter what ther governments of Arab countries do, the Arabs themselves are decidedly anti-Israel. Why would we go back on our stated postion and policies? I do not see anything tangible emerging out of it.
Let look into some history.
Bahrain
Main article: BahrainIsrael relations
Relations are generally tense and the two states do not have diplomatic relations. Like other Arab states, Bahrain does not recognize Israel. A brief period of warming in relations occurred in the mid-1990s.
In 2011, amid Arab spring uprising, Wikileaks cables published on Haaretz revealed some of the hidden relations between Bahraini and Israeli officials. In a meeting with the U.S. ambassador on February 2005, Bahrain's king, Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa had bragged about having contact with Israel's national intelligence agency, Mossad. He indicated that Bahrain is ready to develop relations in other fields as well. The king reportedly gave orders that official statements don't use phrases such as "enemy" and "Zionist entity" when referring to Israel anymore. However, he refused the idea of having trade relations, saying it was "too early" and would be postponed until the establishment of an independent Palestine state.
Egypt
Main article: EgyptIsrael relations
Israel has had full diplomatic relations with Egypt since the signing of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty in 1979. Following the end of the regime of Hosni Mubarak during the 2011 Arab Spring, the Muslim Brotherhood, likely to hold a key role in any future government, announced that the peace treaty with Israel may be put to a referendum.[46]
According to an Egyptian Government 2006 poll of 1000 Egyptians (taken at the time of the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict), 92% of Egyptians view Israel as an enemy nation.[47][48] In Israel, the 1978 Camp David Accords were supported by 85% of Israelis, according to a 2001 poll taken by the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies, based in Israel.[49]
Egypt mediated several unofficial ceasefire understandings between Israel and Palestinians. There have been many popular protests in Egypt against peace with Israel (from all levels of society, including amongst intellectuals, students and democratization movements such as Kifaya). These typically intensify following Israeli actions in its conflicts with Palestinians and in Lebanon, which Israel views as self-defense, but are seen in Egypt as harsh repression of Arabs.
Jordan
Main article: IsraelJordan relations
King Hussein, U.S. President Bill Clinton and Yitzhak Rabin, Israel-Jordan peace treaty
Israel has full diplomatic relations with Jordan since the signing of the Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace in 1994.
Morocco
In 1986, King Hassan II invited then Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres for talks, becoming the second Arab leader to host an Israeli leader. Following the September 1993 signing of the Israeli-Palestinian Declaration of Principles, Morocco accelerated its economic ties and political contacts with Israel. In September 1994, Morocco and Israel announced the opening of bilateral liaison offices.[citation needed] When the king died in 1999, then-prime minister Ehud Barak and the Moroccan-born foreign minister David Levy flew to Rabat for his funeral.[68] The foreign offices were closed in 2000 following sustained Israeli-Palestinian violence.
Qatar
Main article: IsraelQatar relations
Among Arab nations,
Qatar is the warmest to Israel, although it does not currently have diplomatic relations.
Israel United Arab Emirates relations are pursued behind the scenes. Officially, the United Arab Emirates does not recognize Israel as a state, and the two countries do not have diplomatic relations.
Despite no official ties,
Israel and the UAE have clandestine economic relations, and trade between the two countries, principally in the area of security, amounts to about $300 million per year.[1]
Ohh and I must add that Israel gave UAE a nice spanking for hosting a Palestinean terrorist leader Mahmoud al-Mabhouh !
Assassination of Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2. If anyone thinks that we would be able to influence Israel by establishing relations with them is deluding themselves. Turkey has done a lot for Jews in general. By recognizing Israel they went farther than other Islamic countries, but what have they gained? This special relation did not keep Israeli commandos from killing Turks on Gaza Freedom Flotilla.
A lame show off stunt by AKP to appear their masters in GCC. It shouldn't be called Gaza Freedom Flotilla but rather Shameless Political Stunt Flotilla!
3. Seeing Israelis cozy up with India should be a cause for consternation, not appeasement.
India has just slapped a 10 years ban in Israeli Millitary Industry, an opportunity for us to exploit. Israel wouldnt have the chance to cozy up with india has we been playing our diplomacy right back in 1947.
4. Arab governments did initiate a proposal for laying terms for recognition of Israel. I distinctly remember King Abdullah hinting about this about ten or so years ago. Nothing came out of it. Israelis were indifferent. Let them come up with something if they feel that they need to be a part of their neighborhood.
The Arab proposal is a complicated mix of give, give, give and is intended as a shameless political stunt over suffering Palestineans than have any geniune intentions of peace. Arabs cannot cohernece Israel into giving up territory because are the one who announced war and as a victor of 1948, 1967 and 1973 Israel rightfully retain the right to annex territory. This is akin to saying Pakistan should give up Kashmir and GB in order to make peace with India and FATA to make peace with Afghanistan. Lets deal everyone with equality.
5. Israel's support base is the Western world. That ought to give us a bit of an idea how eventually Israelis would come to regard themselves in their neighborhood. State of Israel does not show any signs, but individually some Israelis are pondering about future scenarios. I am not current on Israelis press, but I would bet that the doves are doing their bit and growing in numbers. There is only one future for Israel and that is as a part of Middle East, not an outpost of Western world. The sooner Israel realizes this the better for them, their neighborhood, and for the world at large.
Israel should be teaching Russian, German and French rather than Arabic and Hebrew if they considered themselves an outpost o west.
6. This then leads to a scenario as to how we Paksitanis would interact with Israel. If justice be done and sincere peace be made, we would be stupid not to accept realities. Until such time its best to stick to our position. Meanwhile the best we can do regarding Israel is be indifferent.
We all live on the same globe and ignoring someone is not gonna make us last long. Israel is a reality which is here to stay and gives us an immense bargaining chip in the region as well.
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Chak Bamu; All the problem you cited are their regional Issue - Their problems with Arabs & Iran. We should look for our interests not others. Re Arabs, they can go to any extent to support Israel if she promise to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. Iran can go to any extent to support US in Afghanistan in keeping NA in power without caring about Pakistan's Interest. Pakistan supported Arabs (Jordan) in their conflict with Palestine. KSA is strengthening her ties with India. Why Pakistan have to become football in fight of others? Why always it's Pakistan who have to sacrifice her Interests for others?
Pakistan should distance themselves from Arab regional issue. The Arabs are an insecure bunch which do not enjoy any appreciation in the world due to their austere and backward primitive culture. Their insecurity makes them pump millions each year into religion to export covert-imperialism via sleeper terror cells because no-one in their right mind would willfully accecpt something reminiscent of stone age.
