Pakistan 'can and must' do more against terrorism: Obama

[RescueRanger]

Michael Scheuer had beyond top secret level clearance as head of the OB unit. So it's reasonable to say he had access to information you or I could only dream about. The man is a legend in the OSINT community in the US.

 

[RescueRanger]

@Irfan Baloch please can you merge these threads?
https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...to-dismantle-terrorist-networks-obama.419287/

 

[Abingdonboy]

 

[Abingdonboy]

 

[RescueRanger]

1. Indian News channel - catering to local pallet.
2. LOL, with due respect to the French. They should be more concerned about the North Africans inhabiting the banlieues in their country and leave South Asia to the Asians.
3. http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/18/europe/paris-terror-attacks-intelligence-failures-robertson/

 

[VCheng]

wow wow, talking like a mere Indian mortal arent ya? when you dont like what you hear you dismiss the platform

half empty glass? what makes Al Jazera, Fox and Sky news more authentic than RT? they all push their own agenda dont they?

I was referring your attention to Michael Scheur the guy is American .. and his first video was not RT by the way and he is interviews by Fox and CNN and has said the same thing about the failures of American policies

here is CNN clip for you.. enjoy ..

Sir, rest assured that if USA decides to "destroy Pakistan", it has many ways to do it. However, fear-mongering aside, there is no doubt that Pakistan remains an important country for USA to support. I can even tell you that USA and China have an agreement to work together to prevent Pakistan from descending into chaos despite the idiotic attempts of its own leadership and population to do so. The media circus can go on as it wishes to, but what I have said will matter where it really counts.

Michael Scheuer had beyond top secret level clearance as head of the OB unit. So it's reasonable to say he had access to information you or I could only dream about. The man is a legend in the OSINT community in the US.

He has been out of the loop for a long time now, and much has changed.

 

[RescueRanger]

He has been out of the loop for a long time now, and much has changed.

Sir, please. Once from the farm, always connected to the farm.

 

[VCheng]

Sir, please. Once from the farm, always connected to the farm.

Yes, but he is not current, and does not influence or set present policies.

 

[Spectre]

wow wow, talking like a mere Indian mortal arent ya? when you dont like what you hear you dismiss the platform

half empty glass? what makes Al Jazera, Fox and Sky news more authentic than RT? they all push their own agenda dont they?

I was referring your attention to Michael Scheur the guy is American .. and his first video was not RT by the way and he is interviews by Fox and CNN and has said the same thing about the failures of American policies

here is CNN clip for you.. enjoy ..

With all due respect - India and others are least bothered about how Pakistan handles it's own mess provided they dont spill over to India.

Kindly take minute and consider your argument - you are saying - Look we gotta fight TTP not LeT cause they are killing us and LeT isn't. Al-right that makes sense - So what is India supposed to do - Just grin and bear it?

I have seen you and numerous other senior members advocate attacking TTP hideouts on Afghani soil because they are not able to prevent them from spilling over to Pakistan, now what stops Indians from putting forth the same argument for attacking LeT hideouts in Azad Kashmir considering Pakistani state is unwilling or unable to do so?

Ofcourse the realistic answer will be - Tough Luck! we have nukes and Afghanistan doesn't and this kind of "have the cake and eat it too" attitude is what grates us. Sooner or later the patience will run out and some one out here will call the bluff.

Each country bears the solemn responsibility to not let it's soil be used as a launching pad for terrorism and if the country abdicates in this responsibility it automatically gives the counterparty right of pre-emption

Regards

 

[dadeechi]

China is the only country with full leverage on Pakistan and they have chosen to strongly defend Pakistan.

West no longer has any leverage on Pakistan. So what Obama or Hollande says is immaterial.

 

[Saitama]

Pakistan needs no lectures from Bama.

And also needs no money in form of donation.

 

[Hellfire]

totally agree with Obama here
we must launch attacks on terror camps inside Afghanistan .

And on the camps in Kashmir - your side, Punjab - your side

 

[Pandora]

LoL if Pakistan Pakistn was offering a multi billion dollar deals for subs and fighter craft then French would be licking our asses as well. As soon as deal is done you will see their true face. As for now Aamericans and French want the billions of dollars in defense equipment so they will sell even their mothers to get those deal. You people are getting happy over bunch of statements at a cost of overly priced equipments. Bravo.
As soon as deal is done then they will show you how much they love to bend you all backwards.
French were singing the same tune with pakistan and at one point even floated the Bull shit idea of Civil Nuclear deal when we were planning to acquire Jet engines, Radars and Scorpenes.

 

[true]

China is the only country with full leverage on Pakistan and they have chosen to strongly defend Pakistan.

West no longer has any leverage on Pakistan. So what Obama or Hollande says is immaterial.

The USA singlehandedly has more global influence than both Pakistani and China combined .if Pakistan wants to be relevant economically it can't avoid USA .

Also USA has contributed about 17 billion in foreign aid to Pakistan

 

[dadeechi]

The USA singlehandedly has more global influence than both Pakistani and China combined .if Pakistan wants to be relevant economically it can't avoid USA .

Also USA has contributed about 17 billion in foreign aid to Pakistan

Sure US is the only Super power (militarily, Politically and economically) but that does mean Pakistan and China would just rollover.

Do you really think US would risk and do a Afghanistan on Pakistan?

Recently US tried to push India's request for membership in NSG which was vetoed by China. China clearly indicated that unless Pakistan is given the same deal as India it would not entertain India's request.

Here we are speaking about US loosing influence in the very organization it created.

China has also vetoed India's resolution to ban Kashmir militant groups supported by Pakistan.

The aid you are referring to is history.

China is the biggest investor and military supplier to Pakistan today.

China influence in Pakistan is bound to increase exponentially with the CPEC. The sooner West reconciles to this fact the better.