Pakistan buys 13 F16 from Jordan

[ghilzai]

O mighty rational one, Armies are commanded by veterans not YOUNG ones. And even indian analysys praise Pakistan Armed forces in this aspect the we we manage our forces in limited budget.
JF17 is not light sabre like you believe. thay people who initiated that project know better then you and me about its procurement.
Stay Calm. Only way we can counter Indian Sukhoi 30 Flanker is by F16 Falcons. Now that we have access to american BVRs as well.
Thunder is to replace F7 and mirages. Not as prime air superiority fighter. That remains to battle proven Fighting Falcon F16

Who the fuk is India?, please do tell me, why the obsession and comparison with India, at-least try to compare with others there are plenty about.

 

[truthseeker2010]

ACM himself approached finance minister dar twice in 2013, it is wrong information that COAS was approached.

How much did these 13 jets cost?

 

[Manticore]

so, are these f16s carrying APG-66A?

Radar Ranges Of Different Fighters | Page 8
grifo radar specs

 

[elitepilot09]

so, are these f16s carrying APG-66A?

There are a couple questions still in the air about this and other things:

1. Which radar do the ex-RJAF F-16's carry

2. Which engines are they outfitted with and how many hours remain on them

3. Whether these planes have underwent the MLU

4. How much, on average, did each plane cost

I for one would not trust the information provided by anyone except senior PAF officers. However, something tells me that even if they were asked this, they would insist the technicalities are classified.

So PAF will replace the 150 JF-17s to replace 138+ F-7Ps and F-7PGs along with 50 A-5Cs. I am sure PAF can easily sell their F-7Ps to Muslim countries operating these aircraft and also F-7PGs to BDs which really like these aircraft. Also Mirage III/V might be replaced by used Block-15s about 200 of them.

The quoted poster is most definitely Nishan_101..

 

[aliyusuf]

I think there were 16 F-16s in Jordan fleet then why PAF bought just 13 of them or they are hiding the real numbers???

If we go back to member @air marshal's post #1120 and watch the ARY video ... between 3:00 to 3:30 ... it is mentioned that the current strength of ex-RJAF planes is more than 16 and talks with other countries on acquiring more is going on.

The first video posted was from Duniya and it was clearly being stated that 16 F-16s were being inducted.

Member @Munir has posted an article from dawn which states on Wednesday 11 F-16s arrived from Jordan and total strength of F-16s has reached around 80.

Moderator @Manticore has posted, I forget where, 16 have been acquired and current F-16 strength is 79.

One thing is certain ... the initial information about 12A's and 1B is dead wrong.
4B's have been observed.
Jordan's Peace Falcon I ... had only 10A's and 3B's intact from originally inducted 12A's and 4B's.

I think for us lesser not so well connected mortals ... we have to be content with these tidbits and connect the dots ourselves.

 

[Manticore]

If we go back to member @air marshal's post #1120 and watch the ARY video ... between 3:00 to 3:30 ... it is mentioned that the current strength of ex-RJAF planes is more than 16 and talks with other countries on acquiring more is going on.

The first video posted was from Duniya and it was clearly being stated that 16 F-16s were being inducted.

Member @Munir has posted an article from dawn which states on Wednesday 11 F-16s arrived from Jordan and total strength of F-16s has reached around 80.

Moderator @Manticore has posted, I forget where, 16 have been acquired and current F-16 strength is 79.

One thing is certain ... the initial information about 12A's and 1B is dead wrong.
4B's have been observed.
Jordan's Peace Falcon I ... had only 10A's and 3B's intact from originally inducted 12A's and 4B's.

I think for us lesser not so well connected mortals ... we have to be content with these tidbits and connect the dots ourselves.

strength of the sq is 16 -- doesnt mean that all 16 are from jordan

 

[elitepilot09]

But I have that 16 F-16s are there which is true. Also there are other countries that are operating F-16s Block-15s and they are looking for customers like PAF willing to buy them. I think PAF should be looking to sell their A-5Cs and F-7Ps to any other country(North Korea) to at least make some money for JF-17 induction along with F-7PG to BDs.

Also 200 F-16s would be good to replace all of the Mirages.

Also if Egypt and other North African countries would join in the program then PAF can easily gain Mirage Vs from them which can be used as spares.

Yeaaaah......

 

[Shahryaar Rehman]

Thats Great

 

[Windjammer]

Not sure if you guys noticed that during the flypast, the outgoing F-7 performed a vertical Charlie.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Not sure if you guys noticed that during the flypast, the outgoing F-7 performed a vertical Charlie.

We never appreciated the Mig21 enough.

 

[Windjammer]

We never appreciated the Mig21 enough.

Well it's not being phased out or anything and the PG version stands it's own ground.

 

[Zhukov]

Who the fuk is India?, please do tell me, why the obsession and comparison with India, at-least try to compare with others there are plenty about.

Calm down joe. India is the only country that poses significant threat to Pakistan. Who else can rival Pakistan in this region. Afghanistan? Iran? Bangladesh?.
We have no other security threats than India and to some extant US. But any threat from US can only be resolved diplomatically and impossible militarily exept after blowing away half of our country.
India is the only significant rival to Pakistan Militarily. We are already above other military threats like afghanistan.
So yes. Any PAF strategy will focus india Alone.And mind it that is 4th strongest armed force of the world india

 

[Gryphon]

According to Jane's Defence Weekly,

The PAF confirmed that the 13 F-16s to be eventually inducted comprise 11 F-16As and two F-16Bs. All were originally Block 15 models, but have undergone mid-life upgrades though no further information was disclosed on their weapon systems and/or avionics.

A PAF official told IHS Jane's that with the induction of the five Jordanian F-16s, the PAF now had 76 F-16s. These include 18 F-16C/D Block 52 versions; the remaining 58 are all of the A/ B variants.

 

[Windjammer]

@Munir, wonder if this is one of the ex-Jordanian F-16s being worked on.

 

[Munir]

@Munir, wonder if this is one of the ex-Jordanian F-16s being worked on.

If you ask me this is not a new Jordanian one but mlu'ed one parkes indide the Shahbaz hangars...