Pak not weak to allow India to take Azad Kashmir: Farooq Abdullah :

[ito]

Lmao , losing battle , lol what school do you go........... Have you even watch any news,,,, I am not talking about Indian masala news...........
You are losing Kashmir every day, your generals are telling you,,,,,,,,, Holding Kashmir illegally will become more and more expensive for you every year.
We don't have to do any thing silly , we only have to put our weight behind some other movements in other Parts Of British Made India........ In short we have to increase cost for you to be British Made India to have Kashmir without war.........
Now choice is yours .......... Take some thing from which is not yours on first place........
Your political system is your problem , its not a problem for Pakistan or IOK , come out of any delusion , read history , check maps,,,,,,,, your RSS mentality will strip you from what you have , right now you guys are holding your trouser with one hand and your cap with other , soon you will lose cap and hold trouser with both hands and then........................
Well carry on dreaming and have a delusional life...........

The only thing I can think of you saying the same thing again and again like a broken gramophone record in all your posts is that you are delusional and hell bent on sticking to your position.

I only can say that, unlike you who is emotional and may be young, Pakistani establishment knows the fatality of interfering in India internal affairs.

 

[MultaniGuy]

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Even Egypt military is stronger than Pakistan !

We have nuclear weapons and hey do not. Stop bullshitting here

 

[zip]

Lust for power sometimes blinds us, even sometimes we forget our humanity - whether it's for power, money or whatever. I don't know if all Indian think the same way their govt machinery tells or there is difference in opinion but they should have realized it by now people are not animals that you can buy. I don't know how they can claim some region their integral part when bulk of those people think India has occupier. Indian politicians shamelessly say, "Anyone looking for freedom from Indian occupation should go to Pakistan", so, when people rise the slogans they want to join Pakistan the same politicians turn to hypocrisy and would say you can go but not your property. What gives these hypocrites the right on property of those people?

Junagardh was same situation but in opposition - Hindu majority ruled by Muslim ruler and ruler decided to acceded to Pakistan. Your hypocrite govt attacked the region saying Pakistan's control over region would cause the communal violence in Junagadh, took control, conducted so called polls and annexed the state into India. Pakistan gave it even the claim on it because those people never accepted to be the part of Pakistan. However, the hypocrite b*itch would view Kashmir as integral part of India because its maharajah acceded it to India? Does all those thing which he advocated to justify the occupation Junagardh become void in Kashmir? Are not they human?

The majority of the state if all of them in Kashmir won't make 1% of our population and 5%ge of our Muslim population..They can't change the law of the land which gives equal rights to all and more to Kashmir's through article 370 .. As far as humanity is concerned everyone is free to live if they let others live freely or else law of the land is supreme.

 

[Maarkhoor]

What Pakistan lost all wars? LOL


Did you even read my post properly?

Bro not for u...

 

[Joe Shearer]

Lolzz. Agreed. I think war prospects ended with nuclear bombs and the lense focus the area of south Asia gets and considering that both India and pakistan are actually working towards connectivity albeit in their own spheres aka CPEC for pakistan and the economic progression of India and the act east policy along with chabahar, war becomes even more impossible.

The thing is I am inclined towards LOC becoming international border and it becoming another story of partition after all if it can happen to Punjab and east Pakistan then why not Kashmir and allow migration of those that wish to be in Pakistan and those that wish to stay in India. It worked in 1947 and it can work now.

In this @Oscar is right. This is a water dispute and if we can find a common ground on this issue then I believe that it will become IB. However to find common issue both parties mist tackle the problem as it is.

Anyway perhaps we will revisit this topic on the 100th independence day celebration.

I think we should extend the Indus Waters Treaty to the disputed questions; I am not aware of what these are, by the way, and had thought that the IWT covered more or less everything.

 

[Trango Towers]

Completely agree with him (Farooq Abdullah). Both sides will retain their own, notwithstanding the heavy breathing of nonResidentPakistanis, willing to fight to the last Pakistani still in Pakistan.

and the chest thumping RSS goons on here.....you forgot them

 

[Joe Shearer]

This guy has gone full retard. Now he should shut his mouth.

What was wrong with what he said? Are you aware of the ethnography of Azad Kashmir? And can you suggest what will be achieved by trying to take over a hostile, war-like population? Look up the percentage of Sudhans in the British Army during WWII.

 

[countryman]

The majority of the state if all of them in Kashmir won't make 1% of our population and 5%ge of our Muslim population..They can't change the law of the land which gives equal rights to all and more to Kashmir's through article 370 .. As far as humanity is concerned everyone is free to live if they let others live freely or else law of the land is supreme.

Oh, don't tell me you're an another hypocrite - India having Muslim population doesn't give you privilege to occupy others. I don't have any concern with your Muslim population, I'm talking about Muslim population of Kashmir you people occupied. Think of what you're saying in context with your history, if you're not a hypocrite you'll be able see the gross injustice done by you people.

 

[duhastmish]

We have nuclear weapons and hey do not. Stop bullshitting here

Who said they don’t have nukes. It’s not state of art technology.
If they have some of the best stealth drones. Some of the best weapons. Nukes are much smaller deal.

Anyways u have nukes but you can’t use them.

 

[Joe Shearer]

and the chest thumping RSS goons on here.....you forgot them

No, I didn't. Difficult to forget them; they make lovely music along with the green bhakts. Symphonic.

There is no other option for them, remember Kargil they resort to beg USA for ceasefire and ullo ka patha N.S agreed.
Gen spent whole night 28 KMs inside Indian held territory.

The first is a figment of your imagination; even American accounts are clear on the subject, and your point of view, which surprises me, is a fanboy back-story. The second may well have happened; if you have been to Kashmir, you will know that such a thing is easy, and nothing as breath-takingly heroic as you represent it to be.

Now Pakistan is much capable to take remaining part.


I prefer chanab formula which supposedly discuss between Mr. Vajpai and Mr. Nawaz Sharief, according to this formula Muslim majority Kashmir valley would go to Pakistan and most of the Jammu remains with India.
I think this is the most suitable thing ever discussed.

Never heard of the Chenab formula in my life. Any references please? Other than the memoirs of a Pakistani observer?

 

[zip]

Oh, don't tell me you're an another hypocrite - India having Muslim population doesn't give you privilege to occupy others. I don't have any concern with your Muslim population, I'm talking about Muslim population of Kashmir you people occupied. Think of what you're saying in context with your history, if you're not a hypocrite you'll be able see the gross injustice done by you people.

Don't say that in your country if someone wants freedom you are ready to provide it because of history of the land concerned or ethnicity of the people .. Countries can't operate by dancing to everyone's tune ..

 

[countryman]

Anyways u have nukes but you can’t use them.

Any wise person would choose not to use nukes - they're just for balance of power and to ensure the destruction of enemy who destroyed us (future us talking, it is post apocalypse, don't lookup the sentence in present).

 

[duhastmish]

Any wise person would choose not to use nukes - they're just for balance of power and to ensure the destruction of enemy who destroyed us (future us talking, it is post apocalypse, don't lookup the sentence in present).

Nuke are end of days for user. Unless you are usa and hitting North Korea or some Muslim nation.

Nukes are so over hyped. Defence is about hitting with precision. Pakistan can give decent answer with conventional weapons. Use of nuke will just wipe them off.

 

[countryman]

Don't say that in your country if someone wants freedom you are ready to provide it because of history of the land concerned or ethnicity of the people .. Countries can't operate by dancing to everyone's tune ..

I completely agree you on "Countries can't operate by dancing to everyone's tune" in case a few people starting their own agenda opposing rest of people in region - however when whole bunch of people in given region turn to rebellion this means they're no longer your part and nothing gives you right to own them as you wouldn't accept anyone else's occupation upon you. Pakistan have set the example giving up the claim on Junagardh, even by surrendering in East Pakistan. However, in Bangladesh, Pakistan underestimated the level of rebellion like you're underestimating yours - like most of Pakistanis I personally believe Pakistan should have given them independence in coming years after partition - we delayed it thinking we're protecting our people but they were not our people after all and caused us all that embarrassment.

Nuke are end of days for user. Unless you are usa and hitting North Korea or some Muslim nation.

Nukes are so over hyped. Defence is about hitting with precision. Pakistan can give decent answer with conventional weapons. Use of nuke will just wipe them off.

I don't know what rat hole you live in but only attraction of nukes is their ability of mass destruction and they don't need precision to hit the target - they just explode and cause mass destruction in their affect radius - one meter off wouldn't matter to me. Also, didn't your mama tell you about something called "second strike"?

 

[El Sidd]

I completely agree you on "Countries can't operate by dancing to everyone's tune" in case a few people starting their own agenda opposing rest of people in region - however when whole bunch of people in given region turn to rebellion this means they're no longer your part and nothing gives you right to own them as you wouldn't accept anyone else's occupation upon you. Pakistan have set the example giving up the claim on Junagardh, even by surrendering in East Pakistan. However, in Bangladesh, Pakistan underestimated the level of rebellion like you're underestimating yours - like most of Pakistanis I personally believe Pakistan should have given them independence in coming years after partition - we delayed it thinking we're protecting our people but they were not our people after all and caused us all that embarrassment.


I don't know what rat hole do you live in but only attraction of nukes is their ability of mass destruction and they don't need precision to hit the target - they just explode and cause mass destruction in their affect radius - one meter off wouldn't matter to me. Also, didn't your mama tell you about something called "second strike"?

Well the only good thing about a nuclear strike in internet world.

We will get atleast a 24 hours of time to discuss our last meals and to do lists.

If Pakistan calls for a nuclear deterrent strike on India or vice versa I will finally fix my rear reverse light.

As I said Pakistan if it goes nuclear will treat India as a plus one. This has already been communicated to the international establishment. Rest is a Matter of fate