Pak not weak to allow India to take Azad Kashmir: Farooq Abdullah :

[Maarkhoor]

What makes you think India will accept the Chenab formula.

India will have to lose land.

There is no other option for them, remember Kargil they resort to beg USA for ceasefire and ullo ka patha N.S agreed.
Gen spent whole night 28 KMs inside Indian held territory.

 

[ranjeet]

I don't believe India will accept converting LoC as IB anymore. We will take the fight on the other side of the LoC. Any Indian who suggest that this can be discussed is fooling Pakistanis along with himself.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

I prefer chanab formula which supposedly discuss between Mr. Vajpai and Mr. Nawaz Sharief, according to this formula Muslim majority Kashmir valley would go to Pakistan and most of the Jammu remains with India.
I think this is the most suitable thing ever discussed.

First I want full IOK,,,,,,,,, no matter what,,,,,,,,,,,,, But if you want it without war then above is the only option,,,

 

[MultaniGuy]

There is no other option for them, remember Kargil they resort to beg USA for ceasefire and ullo ka patha N.S agreed.
Gen spent whole night 28 KMs inside Indian held territory.

Agreed with you.

Chenab formula is not a bad compromise. India gets something I suppose.

bad

First I want full IOK,,,,,,,,, no matter what,,,,,,,,,,,,, But if you want it without war then above is the only option,,,

Same here.

 

[El Sidd]

This senile should ask his own government if they are strong enough to keep Jammu.

The world needs an example that UN is still a relevant forum.

 

[MultaniGuy]

This senile should ask his own government if they are strong enough to keep Jammu.

The world needs an example that UN is still a relevant forum.

Yes but, Indians keep harping that Kashmir is a bilateral issue due to the Simla Agreement.

Personally I think the Simla Agreement is outdated now.

 

[Maarkhoor]

This senile should ask his own government if they are strong enough to keep Jammu.

The world needs an example that UN is still a relevant forum.

UN is no more.....

 

[El Sidd]

Yes but, Indians keep harping that Kashmir is a bilateral issue due to the Simla Agreement.

Personally I think the Simla Agreement is outdated now.

Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan as recognized by the UN resolution too.

We have recently asked India to come to the table for finding a peaceful resolution of the deadlock.

 

[MultaniGuy]

UN is no more.....

Well the UN resolutions are relevant.

Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan as recognized by the UN resolution too.

We have recently asked India to come to the table for finding a peaceful resolution of the deadlock.

Yes I agree with you. The UN resolutions are relevant.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Yes but, Indians keep harping that Kashmir is a bilateral issue due to the Simla Agreement.

Personally I think the Simla Agreement is outdated now.

So the UN,

Take it by force or leave it which they want,

Indian claims to be legit owner of this land then why they are leaving Azaad Kashmir?

They no they are occupiers they don't have any moral ground to hold this land and they want some sort of legitimization from Pakistan for their occupation and they don't mind to hand over some parts including Siachin which they occupied it as bargaining chip but we refuse to bargain it.

 

[El Sidd]

UN is no more.....

United nations is still relevant.

Border disputes in third world countries is just not their priority anymore.

 

[Maarkhoor]

United nations is still relevant.

Border disputes in third world countries is just not their priority anymore.

Sorry I did the mistake to reply you.

 

[MultaniGuy]

So the UN,

Take it by force or leave it which they want,

Indian claims to be legit owner of this land then why they are leaving Azaad Kashmir?

They no they are occupiers they don't have any moral ground to hold this land and they want some sort of legitimization from Pakistan for their occupation and they don't mind to hand over some parts including Siachin which they occupied it as bargaining chip but we refuse to bargain it.

Dude the UN resolutions against India are relevant here.
They still apply.

So the UN,

Take it by force or leave it which they want,

Indian claims to be legit owner of this land then why they are leaving Azaad Kashmir?

They no they are occupiers they don't have any moral ground to hold this land and they want some sort of legitimization from Pakistan for their occupation and they don't mind to hand over some parts including Siachin which they occupied it as bargaining chip but we refuse to bargain it.

Agreed with you, if we can take Kashmir by force, we should take it.

 

[Gurjot.S]

There is no other option for them, remember Kargil they resort to beg USA for ceasefire and ullo ka patha N.S agreed.
Gen spent whole night 28 KMs inside Indian held territory.

However, he said, a “naive military adventurer, Gen Musharraf,” launched the operation without proper planning on May 8, 1999 causing loss of life of 3,000 officers and Jawans of the Northern Light Infantry (NLI) and Kashmiri Mujahideen, while India suffered loss of 474 soldiers.

Mr Farooq said the Kargil operation had brought the two neighbouring countries to the brink of a nuclear war. He said the operation code-named ‘Operation Vijay’ was a clear and unquestionable diplomatic and military victory for India, while it was another debacle for Pakistan.

The PML-N leader said Gen Musharraf had wilfully avoided constituting a commission to fix the responsibility for this huge military defeat that had demoralised the entire nation. He said the deposed prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, had “constituted a military inquiry committee that recommended court-martial” of Gen Musharraf but the general overthrew the government and “stole the report” from the PM House to save his neck.

https://www.dawn.com/news/204768

Kargil peaks used to be vacated during winters by both sides but pakistan did not vacate them. and you call it bravery ?

 

[MultaniGuy]

However, he said, a “naive military adventurer, Gen Musharraf,” launched the operation without proper planning on May 8, 1999 causing loss of life of 3,000 officers and Jawans of the Northern Light Infantry (NLI) and Kashmiri Mujahideen, while India suffered loss of 474 soldiers.

Mr Farooq said the Kargil operation had brought the two neighbouring countries to the brink of a nuclear war. He said the operation code-named ‘Operation Vijay’ was a clear and unquestionable diplomatic and military victory for India, while it was another debacle for Pakistan.

The PML-N leader said Gen Musharraf had wilfully avoided constituting a commission to fix the responsibility for this huge military defeat that had demoralised the entire nation. He said the deposed prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, had “constituted a military inquiry committee that recommended court-martial” of Gen Musharraf but the general overthrew the government and “stole the report” from the PM House to save his neck.

https://www.dawn.com/news/204768

Kargil peaks used to be vacated during winters by both sides but pakistan did not vacate them. and you call it bravery ?

Well Pakistan got Peak 5353. I call it a job well done.