PAF & TuAF Were Ready To Enter Israel ?

[Clutch]

forgive our national debt with Dogecoin if IK steps down. Stop leaving everything to god and wake up from your delusions

God isn't a delusion for me and most Pakistani. Perhaps he is for you. Maybe you may want to join the Hindutvaism...

 

[kursed]

Fake news!

 

[appliedfor]

News is true or not true but i realized and see many cowards

 

[8888888888888]

This pretty much explain why Israel back down with Egypt included probably.

 

[mudas777]

Nothing of this sort was discussed.


This idiot is telling the world that Pakistan & Turkey are a bigger threat than Arabs, and need to be neutralized ASAP.

How on earth he knows?? Its obviously a planted story to give Pakistan and Turkey a bad name and portray us a threat to Israel. Firstly we were branded nursery of terrorist country for a decade and it did untold damage to our country image and economy. Since that have died down and world is beginning to see Pakistan as upcoming and peaceful country and our economy is beginning to move forward. Now another bogey has been raised and some bro's are gloating in it without realising we have been portrayed as a threat to other nation and that can raise fears in the West and we will have another issue on our hands. Look at the Indian channels how they are running that story continuously instead of counting their own dead's.
We do want Palestinians sufferings to end and we are sticking to our official policy of UN resolutions and Israeli's must return to 1967 borders accordingly. We do feel pain to see their sufferings and our blood do boil to see desecration of one of the holiest site for us and it was no accident for choosing the timing.
Its the same Kuwaiti's who brought US to the middle East and eventually are the cause of Iraq's occupation and destruction. Why Saddam Hussain attacked Kuwait all of a sudden when Saddam day before have spoken to Husani Mubarak and assured him he don't have any such intentions. Its a long story and what happened in that meeting between Iraq and Kuwait on that day when Kuwaiti's all of a sudden wanted their money back what they have spend on Iraq during Iran Iraq war. What words were used by the head of the delegation and what provoked Saddam into attacking Kuwait as it was a trap was set for him to incite him by the West in the convince of the Kuwait and rest is history.
Bro's wise up firstly we don't have the resources, secondly we have got PM IK who is anti war thirdly we don't have any change in the official policy towards Israel. Are we are going to be that silly to attack Israel and bring US wrath on our lands and funny thing is US will be using their bases of UAE, Kuwait, Saudi, Qatar and Bahrain apart from others what a brotherhood. Gulf countries have sold out Palestine for their self interests they will be more then happy to dig our grave too, to please their master and get a pat on their arse for the job well done.
Lets see when Saudi air force leads all the GCC countries as they have got much more modern air forces and resources then us and we will chip in our share of the contribution too.

 

[Adecypher]

yes, yes i would. We are not the guardians of others. The Ummah is a fantasy of ultranationalists.

What about a Peace force by Turkey,Pakistan,Iran, and few other?

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

yes, yes i would. We are not the guardians of others. The Ummah is a fantasy of ultranationalists.

And the culprits are people with your mindset in ummah's rank.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Chinese Embassy in Palestine , solves all problems
Formal Response to USA's support of Taiwan


Turkey-Pakistan , Embassy in region also further solidifies the Palestinian State
10,000 Troops as part of the Turkish / Pakistani Embassy in Palestine State

This is the only solution for this issue

 

[PakPrinciples]

Unlikeliest of all scenarios.

If the Armed Forces believed that Israel was planning on destroying Al Aqsa mosque then I think they would have stationed forces to attack in conjunction with Turkey at least a force large enough to deter Israeli's from carrying on with their plans.

It was Jordan which betrayed the Arab republics in 1967 and 1973.

I'm not totally aware of all the different wars they've had but how did Jordan betray the Arab Republics?

In the 6 day war Jordan invaded Israel after having forged an alliance with Egypt but their operation was started after Egypt relayed false information about having repelled an Israeli airstrike, Operation Focus if I recall correctly, which crippled the Egyptian air force and eventually lead to the failure of Jordan's ops.

We don’t have the resources, power projection capability, or economic or military muscle to significantly influence Israel, let alone take it on.

Sounds like a great way to get shot down for free and then sanctioned.

Non sense.
Even if in imaginary World such confrontation ever took place, it will yield disastrous outcomes for PAF and TAF alike...

would have been a stupid and disastrous move even if it was true.

So you're saying that our Armed Forces which is built to contain and has successfully fought an enemy armed force with a military budget that's currently 300% larger than Israel's, an army currently 700% larger than Israel's, a navy 500% larger than Israel's can't take on Israel?

Israel is nothing, it's got a population smaller than Lahore and even if we went tit for tat we lose 5% of our people they go extinct.

As for sanctions who is going to place it on us?

China vetoes it at the UNSC and it would violate WTO rules if they were unilateral. You can't just place sanctions on a fellow WTO member whenever you want.

Lets be honest no one gives a damn about Israel other than the US hence why NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg even came out and made it clear they won't defend it:
JPost | NATO chief: Alliance won't defend Israel in war with Iran

We tend to forget there will always be a response. If we attack west towards Israel we surely be attacked on eastern front from India, then by our so called rent a jihadist in Pakistan

Why do you think India will attack?

Where was India when the Soviet Union was being attacked in Afghanistan in the 1980s?

India was the USSR's ally they even signed a defense agreement called the 1971 The Indo–Soviet Treaty of Peace, Friendship and Cooperation which called on mutual defense and unlike NATO's treaty it wasn't restricted to attacks on their mainland.

So when the USSR was being attacked in Afghanistan and needed help where was India?

The Israeli's asked India to provide them with an air base to attack Pakistan's Kahuta nuclear facility in the mid 80s and India refused.

Why?

It's India that would be attacked in return while Israel felt confident enough at that time that we wouldn't be left with the capabilities to strike them afterwards because at the time we did not have missile capabilities that could strike Israel.

You think India is stupid enough to face the threat of a nuclear war with Pakistan in the defense of Israel?

That's a joke.

No one is going to help Israel other than maybe the US and even then they're not going to attack Pakistan's mainland in Israel's defense.

The goal is to develop a 'peace mission'. The main priority is to protect Palestinian civilians with reliable function and to create a defense shield for them.

I agree.

Pakistan already has some 7000 UN Peacekeepers which can be moved into that function.

The rules of engagement would need to be examined but I think there could be a significant force put in place to keep the peace.

 

[khansaheeb]

Pakistan, Turkey and Iran need to get into a military alliance and plan the next round
together to protect Masjid Al Aqsa.

They need to make bases in Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan. They need to get at least 2 of these
countries on board.

It would be like breaking the siege of Stalingrad and would be just as costly but can be done,.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1396454342664798208

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Something did happen because here we have this kuwaiti gentlemen and on the other hand we have Ismail Haniyya delivering a message of thanks to Pakistanis. I could be wrong tho.

 

[Stryker1982]

Kuwaiti Newspapers are famous for their bullshit news.

 

[ARMalik]

The topic of this thread along with many others on similar issues reflects how easy it is to manipulate Pakistan Awam, and how easily Pakistan Awam believes in Fantasies. Specially if people actually knew the history of Pakistan Military's action against Palestinian terrorists' organizations then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I guess what I am trying to say is that this is all BS coming from this disillusioned kuwaiti idiot , and nothing more.

 

[Last starfighter]

Israelis shouldn't have gone for ceasefire. After all, an opportunity missed by US/EU to be done with Pakistan & Turkey at once.

In your dreams

 

[graphican]

Ok, ur right.
Now how to proceed towards our goal.
On the extreme left we are told to leave it
On the extreme right we are told to nuke it
What is the middle ground?
Anyhow engineer Mirza explained it well on YouTube.

Military action is a deterrent, not the first step in. And it is not about finding the "middle ground" but "appropriate action under given circumstances" whatever it is.

Your intentions must be clear and announced and actions must confirm the intent. USA once asked Pakistan, "Are with us or against us?" they had made their intentions clear backing with the capacity to execute the intent. It's time when we make it clear to USA and Israel that Israelis will not be overlooked for doing carnage and war crimes after attacking one of the holiest places to 1.8 Billion Muslims.

If you don't want to live in peace, we'll make sure you rest in peace.