PAF & TuAF Were Ready To Enter Israel ?

[Cash GK]

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Israelis shouldn't have gone for ceasefire. After all, an opportunity missed by US/EU to be done with Pakistan & Turkey at once.

230 millions with 300 Nugs will tske down half of this world. Pak is not week county.pak is power broker if decide to change the group pak's power is enough to declare new super power. Pak was with usa againt soviet. You all know what happend to sovith. Then pak was againt the usa n nato oçcupation in afgistan. They lost 7 trillions in 20 year left with bagging. Pak took side with china. They going to be supper power. Second pak don't depend on EU n usa anymore so no blackmailing will work. Second after pandemic europ and USA are exhausted. Trust me it was best time for pak n Turkey to satel the score ..you are misleading your people. Pak is a force to reckon and with turks and central Asian muslim counties pakistan is going to lead the muslim world. You better understand this n pak leaders must be brave n Mr khan is perfect person in pm office .i give you last ten years muslim wins againt europ and USA. Pak in Afgistan. Iran in Syria n iraq turkey in Libya and Azerbaijan. USA and europ fighting hard in Palestine for their last hold. Their forces name isreal is in trouble. Russian won war in Ukraine so many defeats faced by EU and USA in last 10 years. I tell you history is very cruel and it will correct itself..what BBC cnn and fox is teaching you every day. It is total lie. My conclusion of this conversation. winners of this all are mainly china n russia. Russia is ready to take revenge from usa for 80z cold war.chines will befit to hold the power for next 50 to 100 years. X supppower will understand sooner or later the new realities of new world order. russia turkey and china all waiting for USA n isreal to make wrong move. They will unleash muslim world on them. Muslim world need to be smart. Table is turning in their favour.usa n europ' economies are not in position to fight expensive war. Eu n usa need atleast 20 years to recover and it will provide enough time to china russia n pakistsn turky to do many things. N last but not least brexit brought lots of division in Europe n it will increase by time.You all have right to differ Regards.

 

[Dr-who]

Yes I get that. But...
How is this man in Kuwait privy to these plans? Is there anyone else claiming the same?
What about the logistical, diplomatic and military challenges that Turkey and especially Pakistan would face due to such an adventure.

Why would Pakistan military agree to such a plan when it takes so much longer to plan local military actions against miscreants. I'd think a conflict against Israel would require a much more detailed and long consideration and deliberation.

P.S I can't find this on CNN.

We tend to forget there will always be a response. If we attack west towards Israel we surely be attacked on eastern front from India, then by our so called rent a jihadist in Pakistan

 

[alee92nawaz]

E Tu Brutus

 

[Dr-who]

In the holiest month of the year,
In the holiest decade of the month,
on one of the holiest night of the last ten days,
Israel raided one of the holiest Masjids to Muslims attacking worshipping men, women and children.

If this is a forgivable crime... I wonder what would awaken your consciousness if you've got one at all. What Israel did cannot be ignored because they have a ceasefire in place... their crime and hatred for Muslims have not been cured yet.

Ok, ur right.
Now how to proceed towards our goal.
On the extreme left we are told to leave it
On the extreme right we are told to nuke it
What is the middle ground?
Anyhow engineer Mirza explained it well on YouTube.

The lal topi brigade wouldn't even differentiate the level of threat, assessment & the level of provocation and ground reality. IoJ&K is not raided by air or bombed by IAF but an occupation of territory which is recognized by UN as well. Palestine is a State since before illegal birth of today's Israel.

Palestine was part of ottoman empire and hence part of Turkish state. Was never independent

 

[Blacklight]

Salaam

Is this based on authenticated knowledge or is it your opinion? Not actually accusing just asking.

WAS,

Thank you for asking this question. Usually, when I present my opinion, I mention it as so. In this case, it is definitely not my opinion.

Kind Regards

 

[Blacklight]

PAF should dropped sir zahid hamid over Israel , he is more dangerous then nuclear bomb now days

Please dont call that loony bin "sir".

I am sure, you will agree with me, that people who hijack Islam for their own motives do not deserve any sort of respect.

 

[Clutch]

yes, yes i would. We are not the guardians of others. The Ummah is a fantasy of ultranationalists.

Islam is all about being an Ummah. Perhaps Hindism may be an option instead if Islam isn't working out for you?

 

[Akh1112]

Islam is all about being an Ummah. Perhaps Hindism may be an option instead of Islam isn't working out for you?

When Pakistan has the money and influence to stick up for the world, let me know. We cant liberate Kashmir, let alone Palestine. Please wake up from your fantasies.

 

[Blacklight]

Many people thought Iran and hezbullah will open a 2nd front. This failure has given Israel breathing space. Had hezbullah started it would have pushed the nazis in Israel to realise that no matter how much money they spend they cannot defend against the overwhelming odds of rockets even from much smaller and poorly trained militaries.

Iran via Hizbullah, Yes, I was waiting for that, and was surprised that it did not happen. Maybe because of the the Beirut blast ?

People here think the Israeli pilots and airforce is invincible. On paper yes they are. When have they ever faced a dogged force that will fight back. When have their airbases been under attack or runways taken out.. today countries have the ability to take out runways from hundreds of miles aways. No matter how well the Israelis train or how good they are. The lack of depth will be their downfall and ultimately they are plain wrong.

For that to happen, one of the neighboring countries i.e. Syria, Lebanon, Jordan or Egypt, has to make that call. They have been successfully neutralized, via various means, just like we have been via FATF.

Ok, ur right.
Now how to proceed towards our goal.
On the extreme left we are told to leave it
On the extreme right we are told to nuke it
What is the middle ground?

Do whatever is in the best interest of Pakistan. No knee jerk reactions. Those screaming for anything else can go ahead and liberate Palestine all on their own, they have our best wishes.

Meanwhile some genius individuals are reminded that much more majority of people watch, read and listen to what's being said on CNN rather than what's being posted online forums.

Can you provide a link to CNN, I cant find it on CNN

 

[T-SaGe]

The goal is to develop a 'peace mission'. The main priority is to protect Palestinian civilians with reliable function and to create a defense shield for them. Hamas leader Mr Haniyye announced that the details of this plan will become clear after his visit to Turkey.

Give some time. There will undoubtedly be significant developments, but this must happen with the greatest possible consensus.

 

[Clutch]

When Pakistan has the money and influence to stick up for the world, let me know. We cant liberate Kashmir, let alone Palestine. Please wake up from your fantasies.

God doesn't ask you to look at your pockets but your hearts and action. He fills your pockets as long as you start the journey.

Perhaps Hinduism may be an option for you if Islam is aloof...

 

[khansaheeb]

Sounds like a great way to get shot down for free and then sanctioned.

Just like the Indians shot down our planes

We just need to amplify what the Palestinians have done and force Israel into surrender terms.

 

[Akh1112]

God doesn't ask you to look at your pockets but your hearts and action. He fills your pockets as long as you start the journey.

Perhaps Hinduism may be an option for you if Islam is aloof...

Sounds like Waqar Zaka telling us that he will forgive our national debt with Dogecoin if IK steps down. Stop leaving everything to god and wake up from your delusions. If you want to kill our boys and go broke while doing so, go liberate Palestine, but for a country who cant rid Baluchistan of BLA or free Kashmir, i find it laughable. I think you might be better off playing this scenario on C:MO, atleast it wont bankrupt the country that way.

 

[Nasr]

Not true...remember Cyprus.

Yes you are correct, NATO didn't do anything for Cyprus when Turkey invaded the country. And yes like israel, Cyprus is not part of NATO. However, israel unlike Cyprus, receives uninterrupted $3.5 billion a year in Military Aid from america. And unlike Cyprus, israel receives classified access to Military Technology from the West. This isn't speculation, rather it is factual. The F-35i is tailor made to israeli defense needs, where the source-codes are given with full access.

So it is safe to assess that Turkey doesn't have a chance in a million years to attack israel, in response to israel's brutality on the Palestinians. As Turkey would suffer unimaginable consequences for it's actions against israel. They may stick up america on S-400s, but israel is a no-go for Turkey, and they know this.

 

[Trango Towers]

Yes you are correct, NATO didn't do anything for Cyprus when Turkey invaded the country. And yes like israel, Cyprus is not part of NATO. However, israel unlike Cyprus, receives uninterrupted $3.5 billion a year in Military Aid from america. And unlike Cyprus, israel receives classified access to Military Technology from the West. This isn't speculation, rather it is factual. The F-35i is tailor made to israeli defense needs, where the source-codes are given with full access.

So it is safe to assess that Turkey doesn't have a chance in a million years to attack israel, in response to israel's brutality on the Palestinians. As Turkey would suffer unimaginable consequences for it's actions against israel. They may stick up america on S-400s, but israel is a no-go for Turkey, and they know this.

Yaar you have a point in terms of israeli dominance of American military tech and funding.
However hsitory is full of events where tiny armies with little or no ability have destroyed massive adversaries. Now let's just look at the f35. Let's assume everything you say is correct. Does or does Turkey not have the ability to take out air bases and destroy runways. If it does that how the hell will the f35w take off. So you see the game isn't as simple as you say. In war there are always risks and always balancing acts. But nothing risked means nothing gained.
Isreal plans to build a temple on the haram Al shareef or the dome of the rock. I believe that will be a massive backfire for them. Kings and presidents will not be able to hold back the raw emotion and anger that you and I feel. This is where massive uprising will lead to a massive war in which casualties will be massive but survival for isreal will be very uncertain due to its territorial dept or lack of