PAF JF-17 Shoots Down UAV from Iran

[Syed_Adeel]

I hope this news to be true.

What hope ? its already proven and the wreckage has been found as well

 

[Taimoor Khan]

This event goes to show that even the most remote and sparsely populated region of Pakistan is under constant vigil. To track a tiny drone and shoot it down within 4 km from border is impressive. Tracking must be happening within Iranian airspace and only when it entered Pakistan airspace, the scramble was ordered. Sq 2 is based in karachi, and it is some distance to cover towards Iranian border from there.

 

[airmarshal]

Why cant they shoot down a US drone?

If Pakistan allows US drones, why does it not allow Irani drones?

 

[Secret Service]

i think its false news..

 

[sohail.ishaque]

Pakistan did the right thing strike down unknown drone. But, we discuss all aspect of issue. Remember we have no friends. Iran is nowhere around us, what Saudi ideology gave us , whole nation is paying the price and still paying the price and don't know how many generation. Terrorist strike at will, public has sympathy, because they belong to certain sect. You have good example of Quetta and Parachanar where Shia been massacred at will. Lej and other terrorist organization run there facebook account.................. anyone there to stop them. So, please don't blame Pakistani shia for fail to controlling religious extremism. You have living example of Amajad Sabari killed by Lej , because he recite poem for Holy Prophet and his progeny. They call him shia and knock down.... how many examples you want. On top this forum is full of kids with 95 feet long chest ....

The problem is Iran is helping in those Shia killing,. watch the latest Kalbhoshan Yadav interview,.. Iran is at the same time the helping the killing of Shias in PAkistan and also become the crybaby for them,. ITs the double game they have been playing and they r not been questioned for that for a while now.

 

[El Sidd]

This thread should ideally be closed.

Many Pakistanis have begged for forgiveness and blamed Pakistan for the mistake.

ISPR never commented and foreign office will take back the statement.

Thread should be closed till further development takes place like balls dropping in the sack for some Pakistanis.

 

[khanasifm]

Karachi was 34 minute away and approx. 350 km vs Quetta or Jacobs bad which are app. 450 km distance http://www.aircalculator.com/flightplan.php?from=PJG&to=UET

 

[Fawad alam]

damn that sucks. I did the necessary editing what I was told could be sensitive, but still didn't upload anything here.

@mkg00179504 Bhai jis pilot nay UAV shotdown kia tha usay mera Sallam kehna, Good Job ,Sincerely.

 

[VEVAK]

If it all was available in Iran then there wouldn't be hundreds of Iranian "businessmen" running around in Dubai trying to source equipment from Europe and the US under the guise of selling to another country

Again your talking about mostly civilian use equipment and in limited numbers!
Frankly if Iran was forced to even buy the propellers for the UAV off the black market then they would not be able to afford building these UAV's
A normal MQ-1 cost $5 million USD (including ground equipment) the MQ-1C with ground equipment & 2 aircrafts cost $20 Million USD

Iran's Shahed-129 only cost $500,000 USD (Including Ground Equipment)

So again Iran may by 10-20 engines off the black market to be used for reverse engineering & prototypes (Like the 1st Shahed-129 prototype) but overall Iran can not afford to import every major part! And yes some part like processors, memory devices, GPS & Camera's are duel use equipment that Iran does buy and use in it's UAV's but they are purchased in bulk without worrying about sanctions

A company like ROTAX can't afford to lose NATO members and consumers like the U.S., Israel, UK and most EU countries just to sell a few hundred engines to 1 country and the few Iran does get off the black market would end up at such a high price that once they get to Iran that they would NOT be feasible in terms of cost for Iranian UAV production and such sanctions have forced Iran to produce it's own engines and that is not a matter of choice!

 

[Syed_Adeel]

i think its false news..

two drones have been shot with in 24 hours

 

[Icarus]

Thread closed until any further developments come to light. I think the existing information has already been discussed to a great degree and the posts are getting highly repetitive.

To sum up (from my perspective):

1. Pakistan was well within its rights to shoot down an intruding unmanned aircraft that was operating deep within its border, protocol would have been different if it was a manned aircraft but since drones can't be asked to land, this is the only way of establishing sovereignty.

2. Iran would have reacted the same way, if not more forcefully if it had been Pakistan flying a drone in Iranian airspace.

3. The incident has the potential to cause tensions and may hurt efforts to improve relations but is unlikely to amount to any significant changes in policy or engagement.

4. With the Qatar crisis unfolding, there was significant potential for Iran to use the tensions with KSA to build bridges with Qatar and Pakistan (which is pursuing a course of neutrality). That potential has suffered a grave set back.

5. The silence of Iranian Govt on the matter, which is otherwise quite vocal about threats to its sovereignty reflects a deeper understanding to try and avoid further escalation and perhaps allow the issue to die down. As I stated earlier in the thread, Pakistan is perhaps the only Muslim country and definitely the only Sunni majority country that is pursuing a policy of neutrality in the Iran-GCC split. Pakistan has repeatedly hurt relations with the GCC to avoid going at odds with Iran. Although there are several concerns on the Pakistani side regarding Iran's support to groups within Pakistan and on the case of Kalbhushan Jhadev, Pakistan has continued to suppress those issues in order to avoid derailing efforts towards improving relations. Such incidents threaten the continuation of this policy and may end up pushing Pakistan conclusively into the GCC Camp.

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