Iran shoots down Israeli drone operated by Azerbaijan violating Iranian airspace

[Hack-Hook]

Are you an armament engineer knowing that much about warheads and explosives?

Where is your evidence that modern warheads do not explode when they hit or the are hit. For your information this drone is designed to explode when hit the target (impact shock fuse).

These fuses are not mechanically operated, but impact shock sensors electrically trigger the fuse. In my opinion the subject drone crashed after depleting its battery power, hence it did not explode while hitting the ground.

Drone containing 35 kg warhead flew inside the Iranian airspace 65 km deep and was shot down by "shrapnel or a bullet"!!!!!

you see , the fuse explode when being activated with contact or electricity and produce pressure shock and that result in explosion , you can hammer the explosive and nothing will happen
you see harpy is 2.7m long drone that have a delta wing span of 2.1m that carry a small 32kg warhead , do you believe the rest of the airplane can also explode if it get hit by shrapnel or bullet .
and this is the engine of the uav it's not an electric engine that ran out on battery
https://uavenginesltd.co.uk/products/ar731-38-bhp/

 

[Hack-Hook]

There is nothing to boast about attacking a Muslim state by another state.

well tell that to Iraq and the est of the Muslim countries that support that muslim country attacking another Muslim country .
Let not to forget those role model Muslim
Egypt
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
United Arab Emirate
Jordan (main supply line and Even their kings fired several shell toward Iranian lines)
Qatar
Sudan (Provided mercenaries)
Turkey (Sold weapons to Iraq)

 

[Marker]

you see , the fuse explode when being activated with contact or electricity and produce pressure shock and that result in explosion , you can hammer the explosive and nothing will happen
you see harpy is 2.7m long drone that have a delta wing span of 2.1m that carry a small 32kg warhead , do you believe the rest of the airplane can also explode if it get hit by shrapnel or bullet .
and this is the engine of the uav it's not an electric engine that ran out on battery
https://uavenginesltd.co.uk/products/ar731-38-bhp/

What about complete consumption of the fuel stored in drone fuel tanks after six hour of flight?

Position of crashed debris clearly indicate that it was crashed due to technical reasons not due to some offensive action by Iranian Air Defense.

 

[Hack-Hook]

What about complete consumption of the fuel stored in drone fuel tanks after six hour of flight?

Position of crashed debris clearly indicate that it was crashed due to technical reasons not due to some offensive action by Iranian Air Defense.

the fuse don't rely on the battery or any other external source energy to detonate, in fuses they use different mechanism , for example RPG-7 uses a Piezoelectric fuse that produce electricity on impact .
and a bullet hitting control surface exactly will do the same

 

[Marker]

well tell that to Iraq and the est of the Muslim countries that support that muslim country attacking another Muslim country .
Let not to forget those role model Muslim
Egypt
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
United Arab Emirate
Jordan (main supply line and Even their kings fired several shell toward Iranian lines)
Qatar
Sudan (Provided mercenaries)
Turkey (Sold weapons to Iraq)

This is only because Iran isolated from the Islamic world. Instead of playing proxy wars inside Muslim neighboring states including Pakistan, Iran may shift its strategy and start focusing on diplomatic solutions to reach mutual understanding with its neighboring states.

 

[Hack-Hook]

This is only because Iran isolated from the Islamic world. Instead of playing proxy wars inside Muslim neighboring states including Pakistan, Iran may shift its strategy and start focusing on diplomatic solutions to reach mutual understanding with its neighboring states.

it happened 40 years ago and we didn't had any proxy , it happened then because some greedy Muslim wanted to annex part of our country and some other Muslims wanted to support their Arab brothers blindly even at the time PLO instead of fighting Israel provided mercenary to saddam in hope of getting some money from according to what Arafat said their brothers .

 

[Marker]

the fuse don't rely on the battery or any other external source energy to detonate, in fuses they use different mechanism , for example RPG-7 uses a Piezoelectric fuse that produce electricity on impact .
and a bullet hitting control surface exactly will do the same

Again, you are giving wrong example to prove your assertion is correct. Piezoelectric fuse are very sensitive to shock, therefore its usage is limited to type munition.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Again, you are giving wrong example to prove your assertion is correct. Piezoelectric fuse are very sensitive to shock, therefore its usage is limited to type munition.

only in one direction , if they are not hit in that direction , nothing will happen.
and it won't matter if it is a contact fuze again you must hit it from one direction

 

[Marker]

only in one direction , if they are not hit in that direction , nothing will happen.
and it won't matter if it is a contact fuze again you must hit it from one direction

You are continuously counter arguing using wrong engineering details. Are you the designer or manufacturer or an engineer or a technician working in Israeli Harop/Harpy plant or Turkish plant? Or did you participate in the collection of debris of the crashed drone and inspected it, that you are so sure that piezoelectric fuse were used in these drones?

it does not contradict my argument, you are bringing new argument up. that Kuwaiti newspaper claimed f-35 flew over several of our cities and i showed that it's not possible to fly over them and not being detected.

Detecting an RCS equivalent to bird is not called detection. Iranian Air defense cannot be activated due to "birds" flying over their airspace.

 

[BATMAN]

The most impressive use of UAVs was the Iranian attack on Abqaiq

Iran has always denied, it to be Iranian drones... are you sure it was Iranian attack!

 

[Philosopher]

Iran has always denied, it to be Iranian drones... are you sure it was Iranian attack!

So you think Iran would come out and take responsibility for attacking another nation directly? The intelligence showed it came from Iran, that's what mattered.

U.S. believes attack on Saudi Arabia came from southwest Iran

U.S. believes attack on Saudi Arabia came from southwest Iran

The United States believes Saturday's attack on Saudi Arabia's oil facilities were launched from Iran, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Tuesday, with one of them saying it originated in Iran's southwest.

uk.reuters.com

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[Hack-Hook]

You are continuously counter arguing using wrong engineering details. Are you the designer or manufacturer or an engineer or a technician working in Israeli Harop/Harpy plant or Turkish plant? Or did you participate in the collection of debris of the crashed drone and inspected it, that you are so sure that piezoelectric fuse were used in these drones?

well if you knew better than me why not provide the detail.
and piezo electric fuze was an example for modern fuse even a contct fuze could explain the situation . even electric fuse did the same . if the plane don't hit the target or self destruct , it wont explode

So you think Iran would come out and take responsibility for attacking another nation directly? The intelligence showed it came from Iran, that's what mattered.

U.S. believes attack on Saudi Arabia came from southwest Iran

U.S. believes attack on Saudi Arabia came from southwest Iran

The United States believes Saturday's attack on Saudi Arabia's oil facilities were launched from Iran, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Tuesday, with one of them saying it originated in Iran's southwest.

uk.reuters.com

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the photos showed the drones hit north west side of the structures , it meant the attack come from Israel or Jordan

 

[BATMAN]

So you think Iran would come out and take responsibility for attacking another nation directly? The intelligence showed it came from Iran, that's what mattered.

U.S. believes attack on Saudi Arabia came from southwest Iran

U.S. believes attack on Saudi Arabia came from southwest Iran

The United States believes Saturday's attack on Saudi Arabia's oil facilities were launched from Iran, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Tuesday, with one of them saying it originated in Iran's southwest.

uk.reuters.com

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No one is asking or expecting you to say truth. I was just clarifying. I thought may be i missed and Iran decided to own the act.

 

[Marker]

If you want to see a real use of "stealthy" UAVs, check the Iranian attack on Saudi Abqiaq.

Are you denying the Iranian Government instance on this issue?
How has Iran responded?
Foreign Minister Javad Zarif replied on Twitter, saying that "having failed at max pressure, Sec Pompeo's turning to max deceit".
He was referring to the Trump administration's stated "maximum pressure campaign" targeting the Iranian regime with sanctions.
Mr Zarif said that "blaming Iran won't end the disaster" in Yemen.
Earlier, foreign ministry spokesman Abbas Mousavi said that Mr Pompeo's "blind accusations and remarks are incomprehensible and meaningless".
Mr Mousavi said Saudi Arabia had "repeatedly violated Yemen" and that the "Yemenis have shown resistance to aggression".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49705197

 

[Marker]

well if you knew better than me why not provide the detail.
and piezo electric fuze was an example for modern fuse even a contct fuze could explain the situation . even electric fuse did the same . if the plane don't hit the target or self destruct , it wont explode

In my opinion, whether you agree or otherwise, the loitering munition crashed due to technical fault or due to its empty fuel tanks. There is another possibility that the loitering munition got astray due to loss of communication with controller, hence it may not be an hostile action by Azerbaijan or anyone across the border.