PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[TsAr]

Rupprecht: China hat wohl bis zu vier Typen von "Carrier-Killer-Raketen"

Für den Militärexperten, Andreas Rupprecht, hat sich auf chinesischen Übungsplätzen viel verändert. Es gebe neben zwei Flugzeugträgerattrappen und auch Modelle mit Sensoren und Elektronik.

www.ndr.de

If you don't mind me asking, what do you teach?

 

[siegecrossbow]

If you don't mind me asking, what do you teach?

Birds and bees. By that I mean falcons and bumblebees/africanized honey bees etc.

 

[sahureka2]

 

[The Terminator]

The rumored difference of E variant as per Turkey:

Don't know it's authenticity. Should be taken with a rock of salt as reporting media is Indian. The video says that exported E variant can't be used against Turkey.

Bhai gustaakhi muaaf ho maine mazaak kiya tha.. But I think no one knows the difference here and if someone he will never share this openly. However, I think there won't be any big difference between both of these missiles.

 

[lightning F57]

The rumored difference of E variant as per Turkey:

Don't know it's authenticity. Should be taken with a rock of salt as reporting media is Indian. The video says that exported E variant can't be used against Turkey.

Most exporters would probably like something like a kill switch. Not an issue with Pak, both are brotherly countries.

 

[The Terminator]

this one is 2005 WS-10 documentary on it's development

Can someone decrypt this video so general public can understand it!

I'm talking about future.. 3/4 decade old F-16 will retire one day and we will end up with Chinese machines only.. it will definitely impact our historic air superiority on India..

Bro by that time those F-16s would be as effective as Abhinandan's mighty MiG-21 bison was. Super powers are currently going for 6th Gen and by that time we would have a considerable fleet of 5th Gen fighters or even 6th Gen ones. F-16 is soon going to be history so is the thunder and dragon. Tech is accelerating exponentially.

The era of singularity was predicted to be around 2040 many decades ago by a respectable University in the US. So may be by that time AI and machines would have taken over the control anyways

 

[The Terminator]

We’re not. We got the PL-15E because it’s the export version of the PL-15, meant for, you guessed it, export. Pakistan is a foreign country, it gets the export version.

It’s just that too many Pakistanis think missile ranges actually mean something (they don’t) or that the export missiles are somehow significantly weaker than the Chinese variants without understanding how missiles actually work. It’s just disappointing how little people research before leaving comments like that.

IMHO The purpose of export variants is to protect the technology and crucial info against hostile espionage. So there would be some steps taken to secure the codes and also change certain design features to make it difficult to open/extract crucial info or reverse engineer/modify the exported model etc.

If the missile is of same shape and size then reducing it's motors or propellant significantly would screw the whole aerodynamic balance of the missile. Tech is more sensitive than just some range numbers and general physical capability.

 

[Scorpiooo]

The rumored difference of E variant as per Turkey:

Don't know it's authenticity. Should be taken with a rock of salt as reporting media is Indian. The video says that exported E variant can't be used against Turkey.

If true then nothing wrong in it, way they allow there own origin weapons to be used against them

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

 

[Deino]

If you don't mind me asking, what do you teach?

I studied and made my exams in Chemistry, Sports and Geography and currently at school I tach Chemistry, nature Science and sports only

 

[[--Leo--]]

Any cockpit picture of Pakistani version J-10C?

 

[tphuang]

I'm talking about future.. 3/4 decade old F-16 will retire one day and we will end up with Chinese machines only.. it will definitely impact our historic air superiority on India..

hmm, you are going to have access to more advanced aircraft than you ever would have through Western channels. Right now, we have 2 countries that have produced 5th generation aircraft. By early 2030s, those same 2 countries will be producing 6th generation aircraft. It seems like PAF is getting a pretty good deal to have access to close to the latest aircraft from one of these 2 countries.

Indians claim Chinese HW to be inferior. However, this is despite the fact that Indians on their own can make nothing and rely on bought "off the shelf" capabilities in all spheres to compete with China and Pakistan.

Think about it this way. IAF has no realistic path to a true 5th generation aircraft in the next 5 years and maybe not even the next 10 years. Su-57 is not a real stealth aircraft. F-35 won't be available to IAF unless India gives up on its neutral foreign policy positions and give up Russian military hardware. As such, Rafale is the best aircraft they will have for the foreseeable future.

On the other hand, either J-20 or FC-31 will be available to PAF in a few years. India will indeed be facing a lot of pressures.

There are certain problems that even having a lot of money can't solve. India has that right now.

Some of the team at the signing ceremony has been visitors/residents at Chengdu since 2004 and seen/evaluated the J-10 through all its variations and at times provided some input and advice based on the JF-17. They also have seen a lot of what Chengdu is upto besides the known projects as well but as is the tight relationship between the two they keep generally quiet about it.

As far as the PL-15E range is concerned, I would not consider this to be the PL-15E advertised because there is a batch of PL-15s straight from PLAAF stock that was sent to Pakistan sitting as well with the idea that the PAF will fire at ANY IAF asset first in BVR. These PL-15Es reflect that requirement as well.

Sure, I think people should not get obsessed of designations. We do not know the differences between the version PAF got vs the one PLAF has. There could be some differences, but that doesn't mean one system is necessarily better or worse. Just different.

Also the thing about Rafael in use of India is they are very VERY expensive too
Some figures put per unit cost with Indian configurations at 130 million per unit and in capabilities its not that different from J-10

Rafale deal controversy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

actually India paid over $200 million per Rafale.

 

[The Terminator]

I cant wait to see the pictures of F16 and J10C side by side.

In a beauty contest

 

[jaybird]

I was surprised too when I watched the video for the first time that what really the ACM is doing there national TV

Like this?

 

[Bossman]

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You missed the best part a few second earlier with his closed fist Please add that