Why are you so defensive? You mean PAF need this bird to land at Pakistan before they really know what these J-10C can do? You mean PAF do not even know capabilities of these bird before decide to buy for them? Do you know what is called testing or test trial? I am sure PAF pilot send to evaluate J-10C are ace pilot of F-16 Blk 52 who do professional assessment of J-10C including fighter to fighter evaluation.
If these J-10C cant even beat F-16 blk 52 hands down. I doubt PAF are willing to induct these birds.
When did I question J-10s capabilities or how much PAF knows about it?
But knowing an aircraft's capabilities and having complete grip on the aircraft and knowing it inside out are two very different things. PAF knows every inch about the F-16, in the air as well as on ground. Can you say same for the J-10?
An aircraft having service tenure of 40 some years and an aircraft on which only a handful of pilots are operational yet , are being compared here by people,infact the new aircraft has been declared THE BEST. This is the same mindset Indian Pajeets have for Rafale.
And NO, most pilots sent for J-10 program are not from F-16, rather from your secondary fighter aircraft having Chinese origin.
Lastly, it can never be established which aircraft can beat which one. Even after all this support for this F-16, I never claimed it cannot be beaten by J-10 or it's superior to J-10. I even know of cases where a Hud Less and Radar Less Mirage iii beat the shit out of an MLUed F-16 in dogfight.
In addition to your post I would reiterate that the 4 decades of experience on the 16s, the scores of pilots who have had 100s of hours on the platform, the technical expertise for repairs and maintenance means the 16s are still the spearhead of our attack. This might change in 3-5 years but as of now the 16s are our top dogs. Iagree that J10s are a more recent acquisition but getting used to the platform, its quirks, its/weaknesses and strengths, vetting to know its hardware and developing repair and maintenance infrastructure will take a lot of time.
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Agreed, most people here who still support the F-16 are those who have had direct/indirect experience with it in one way or another OTH it's haters are those who might not even have seen one IRL and keep ranting without any logic and understanding of aircrafts or combat aviation.
I am not belittling anyone and I agree everyone's got a right to opinion but at least come up with a good logic and state solid facts.
Ever since the news of acquisition of J10 was broken, the focus of discussion had been india & Rafale. But in my opinion the country who should be more worried than India is Taiwan. Remember PAF was not able to pitch F-16s in any Shaheen Exercises with China.
Having secured this deal now PAF can do F-16 vs J10 exercises internally. This in return might help China vis-a-vis Taiwan. Furthermore this deal has effectively killed any chance of V upgrades that some people were hoping for.
F-16 has been pitched against J-10 but not C variant ( atleast not in my knowledge ).
It was A and guess who won?