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Our Army of 1.3 million is not to ‘preach peace’, Manohar Parrikar says

So your 1.3 million army is for unrest in the world. ...??
Mission of army is to protect the boundaries and bring Peace in country ......
 
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Ahem... No, in 1965 India was very much brought to the negotiating table. Fact. And I have dozens of pictures of Pakistani soldiers in conquered Indian territory. Don't bring out hyperbole. India managed to save itself by gaining help from USSR in the Tashkent treaty, read about it.
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In case you didn't know those 90000 z PoWs were officers and their families, in reality Pakistan had placed 34000 combat troops. Pakistan got aircrafts from various gulf nation, but were not used because of safety reasons. Fact. USA sent a fleet to evacuate it's citizens. Fact. US did not pressure China to do anything, in fact USA had condemned Pakistan for having good relations with China. Fact. And Indian armed forces attacked Bengal when Pakistan army were scarce on resources. Fact. India gained situational warfare intelligence with the help of USSR which by the way was also behind helping India train Mukti Bahini. Fact.
Now to Kargil.
If you didn't know Pakistan still holds strategic places in Kargil, Pakistan army has not been ousted from the region. Fact. And remember the fate of the MiGs that crossed into our airspace?. So tell me? How much has your army progressed against Maoists?. Meanwhile on our side last year we began a military campaign and guess what the Taliban remain in their last stronghold knowing that they will die with our hands around their neck. And no USSR provided India with a lot of weaponry, especially ordinance. Go ahead prove these facts wrong with reality.

no, in 65 UN called for the ceasefire, india didn't ask for it. U actually saved pakistan from indian forces.
ooh don't be a stupid, pakistan didn't use the aircraft when they are going to loose half of their country!!?? go and tell this to your children may be the will belive you. and US didn't send a CBG to save Americana citizen. indian navy even sink a ship carrying US aid to pakistan at the time. yes, US did pressure china to send its troops to fight against india, and during 70s US-china relation was at the best, US even provide the black hawk helicopter to china during 70s.
pakistan army was not running out of resources, it had constant supply of ammo and weapons from middle eastern countries, USSR didn't directly helped india to fight pakistan. the help us to stop the US and British AC from reaching the bay of bengal. it was BSF and R&AW who helped mukthi bahini initially, then indian army also start supporting them, but it was during the same time indian army go to war with pakistan.

pakistan didn't hold the stratagic posts. the stratagic post was tiger hill, india captured that hill during the war, and i had already post the pics of indian soldiers in tiger hill. mig 29 was ordered to stay within the indian terroritory as pakistan was denying their role and rejecting the dead bodes of their soldiers, there was no formal declaration of war with pakistan. indian defence forces objective was to kick the *** of those inflitrators, and even Pakistan air forced didn't even came to help pakistan army dispite they begged for air support. indian air force was dropping bombs over your army men and your airforce refused to fight against indian military and rejected the request of pakistan army to provide air support!! what a pathetic military is yours. it is not the 1st time pakistan air force refused to provide air support, during indian navy's attack on karachi port pakistan air force refused to provide air support for pakistan navy when indian navy fighter jets attacked the karachi port.

and final thing, indian army is not deployed in maoist hit areas, only police forces are there. your army is fighting the WoT since 2001 and still large no of terrorist attacks are happening in your country in daily basis. and you forget that your military is fighting the war with US aided weapons. what you think? from were you get boombs, fighter jets, targetting systems, intaligence support, helecoptos are getting?? you think that you get all this from your 8 billion $ defence budget!!?? no buddy, its all US aid, 90% of pakistan military weapons are military aid from US. without US aid pakistan army are sitting ducks for those untrained terrorists.
 
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Like I said earlier this is a perfect calculated move.Very intentional and meant for it.
That is even came after the same response from Pak General a few days ago.

GoI may have some plan.But that wont be a shit like war.
 
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India can't wage a war. It's army is weak, untrained and ineffective. Operation Parakram laid its faults bare. India managed to kill 2,000 of its own soldiers without so much as Pakistan batting an eyelash.

The wars of today have no parallel in history hence your immediate inkling to bring 1971 into this is both an exercise in folly and futility. Let this be bait. Let this also be a paradigm of your ignorance.

You are speaking something which happened nearly 15 years ago...Don't you think Indian army learned a lesson from that????
 
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no, in 65 UN called for the ceasefire, india didn't ask for it. U actually saved pakistan from indian forces.
ooh don't be a stupid, pakistan didn't use the aircraft when they are going to loose half of their country!!?? go and tell this to your children may be the will belive you. and US didn't send a CBG to save Americana citizen. indian navy even sink a ship carrying US aid to pakistan at the time. yes, US did pressure china to send its troops to fight against india, and during 70s US-china relation was at the best, US even provide the black hawk helicopter to china during 70s.
pakistan army was not running out of resources, it had constant supply of ammo and weapons from middle eastern countries, USSR didn't directly helped india to fight pakistan. the help us to stop the US and British AC from reaching the bay of bengal. it was BSF and R&AW who helped mukthi bahini initially, then indian army also start supporting them, but it was during the same time indian army go to war with pakistan.

pakistan didn't hold the stratagic posts. the stratagic post was tiger hill, india captured that hill during the war, and i had already post the pics of indian soldiers in tiger hill. mig 29 was ordered to stay within the indian terroritory as pakistan was denying their role and rejecting the dead bodes of their soldiers, there was no formal declaration of war with pakistan. indian defence forces objective was to kick the *** of those inflitrators, and even Pakistan air forced didn't even came to help pakistan army dispite they begged for air support. indian air force was dropping bombs over your army men and your airforce refused to fight against indian military and rejected the request of pakistan army to provide air support!! what a pathetic military is yours. it is not the 1st time pakistan air force refused to provide air support, during indian navy's attack on karachi port pakistan air force refused to provide air support for pakistan navy when indian navy fighter jets attacked the karachi port.

and final thing, indian army is not deployed in maoist hit areas, only police forces are there. your army is fighting the WoT since 2001 and still large no of terrorist attacks are happening in your country in daily basis. and you forget that your military is fighting the war with US aided weapons. what you think? from were you get boombs, fighter jets, targetting systems, intaligence support, helecoptos are getting?? you think that you get all this from your 8 billion $ defence budget!!?? no buddy, its all US aid, 90% of pakistan military weapons are military aid from US. without US aid pakistan army are sitting ducks for those untrained terrorists.

That's what they taught you, eh?.
A fleet of F-5s were given by various gulf nations, but were not used as they did not have ejection seats. And no Pakistan still holds several points in Kargil: Near Tiger Hill, Point 5353 still Pak-occupied - Indian Express :cheesy:. And no, ammunition was not taken from gulf, POF manufactured it. Right 90% of weapons are not U.S aid. F-16s were purchased by Pakistan from it's own money, but you being an Indian you wouldn't know. Airforce couldn't provide cover because simply it had few available fighters, not because we were "afraid", in fact IAF has a history of surrendering to PAF famous examples include Ouragan incident and the several times IAF fled away from PAF airspace when they realized that an F-104 was in the region, however when PAF faced an advance MiG-21 this happened:
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Now military action against terrorists Pakistan fought Taliban in Swat, we won. We started campaign in NW, Taliban only remains in it's last stronghold. It has been decades since Maoists have been in existence, yet you still can't wipe them off, rangers conducted 3 raids in the night in Karachi, more than that shitty army of yours can do in it's existence, meanwhile India is the largest receiver of foreign aid since WW2. Lets see, remember INS Khukri?. Your ship got blown into bits by us, but being the sorry sod you are you probably wouldn't know, INS sank a minesweeper and a merchant ship, you must be proud of that. And as for what I would tell my kids, whatever it is it's not the bullcrap you would tells yours (If you would have any). Now go cry till you go to sleep. :wave:
 
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That's what they taught you, eh?.
A fleet of F-5s were given by various gulf nations, but were not used as they did not have ejection seats. And no Pakistan still holds several points in Kargil: Near Tiger Hill, Point 5353 still Pak-occupied - Indian Express :cheesy:. And no, ammunition was not taken from gulf, POF manufactured it. Right 90% of weapons are not U.S aid. F-16s were purchased by Pakistan from it's own money, but you being an Indian you wouldn't know. Airforce couldn't provide cover because simply it had few available fighters, not because we were "afraid", in fact IAF has a history of surrendering to PAF famous examples include Ouragan incident and the several times IAF fled away from PAF airspace when they realized that an F-104 was in the region, however when PAF faced an advance MiG-21 this happened:

Now military action against terrorists Pakistan fought Taliban in Swat, we won. We started campaign in NW, Taliban only remains in it's last stronghold. It has been decades since Maoists have been in existence, yet you still can't wipe them off, rangers conducted 3 raids in the night in Karachi, more than that shitty army of yours can do in it's existence, meanwhile India is the largest receiver of foreign aid since WW2. Lets see, remember INS Khukri?. Your ship got blown into bits by us, but being the sorry sod you are you probably wouldn't know, INS sank a minesweeper and a merchant ship, you must be proud of that. And as for what I would tell my kids, whatever it is it's not the bullcrap you would tells yours (If you would have any). Now go cry till you go to sleep. :wave:

BTW way . PT5353 , was never occupied by Indian force and Neither PAK , but PAK came and occupied . Due to strategic reasons Tiger hill is the highest hill and can overlook the PT5353 in event of full scale war PT5353 can be taken out easily as it surrounded by 3 sides.
 
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A fleet of F-5s were given by various gulf nations, but were not used as they did not have ejection seats. And no Pakistan still holds several points in Kargil: Near Tiger Hill, Point 5353 still Pak-occupied - Indian Express :cheesy:. And no, ammunition was not taken from gulf, POF manufactured it. Right 90% of weapons are not U.S aid. F-16s were purchased by Pakistan from it's own money, but you being an Indian you wouldn't know. Airforce couldn't provide cover because simply it had few available fighters, not because we were "afraid", in fact IAF has a history of surrendering to PAF famous examples include Ouragan incident and the several times IAF fled away from PAF airspace when they realized that an F-104 was in the region, however when PAF faced an advance MiG-21 this

only one point, one point. the point 5353. that place is still under pakistan occupation only because of a failed political decision not because of bravary or skill of pakistan army. then PM of a b vajpayee orders Indian army to stop their advance as pakistan PM agreed full withdrawal of troops from kargil. but as usual pakistan didn't withdraw from that land and the politicians become preoccupied in the celebration of kargill war and upcoming election. so they ignore point 5353.

during 71 war pakistan get aid from SA, Jordan, Iran, US, and from many other arab countries.
The World: Bangladesh: Out of War, a Nation Is Born - TIME
The World: Bangladesh: Out of War, a Nation Is Born - TIME
the f-6s in 80s were brought from US by pakistani money, but the F-16 pakistan got after 2001 are US aid, which include the block 52. other than that the mill 17 helicoptors, sniper targeting pods. MRAP vehicles, laser targeting systems, A_A missile, laser guided missiles, IFV, laser pointers, NVGs BJs, helmets, M4 rifles, optical gun sights, sniper rifles, anti-submarine aircrafts, etc etc are from US aid.
indian air force never surrender to PAF. are you making your own stores?? don't you know that mig-21 was the main fighter jet which help IAF to gain air supremacy in east Pakistan.

Now military action against terrorists Pakistan fought Taliban in Swat, we won. We started campaign in NW, Taliban only remains in it's last stronghold. It has been decades since Maoists have been in existence, yet you still can't wipe them off, rangers conducted 3 raids in the night in Karachi, more than that shitty army of yours can do in it's existence, meanwhile India is the largest receiver of foreign aid since WW2. Lets see, remember INS Khukri?. Your ship got blown into bits by us, but being the sorry sod you are you probably wouldn't know, INS sank a minesweeper and a merchant ship, you must be proud of that. And as for what I would tell my kids, whatever it is it's not the bullcrap you would tells yours (If you would have any). Now go cry till you go to sleep. :wave:
some military action by carpet bombing which avoid any risking of pakistan army soldiers makes you win, and your army just win against under equipped, under trained local resistance force who don't have any military training. it is not a real war. most of the enemy kills are done by pakistan air force jets's carpet bombing. and those killed in the bombing are declared as terrorists including children and women. it avoid reporting of these killings of civilins, pakistan army blocked media entry into those areas PAF is conducting bombing... remember during war in waziristan, pak army banned media in those areas, you don't compair the capability of indian army with those resistance force.

and about the naval blockade in 71 war:
pakistan navy loss:

Operation Trident----

Destroyer PNS Khaibar sunk
Minesweeper PNS Muhafiz sunk and scrapped as result
Destroyer PNS Shah Jahan badly damaged
Karachi harbour fuel storage tanks destroyed
100+ sailors killed
700+ injured


in Operation Python---

Freighter Gulf Starsunk
Tanker PNS Dacca badly damaged
200 injured
1,790 killed Karachi harbour damaged

and pakistan navy failed to even do a scratch on indian navy:dance3::dance3:
 
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lol.... my dear dreamer , Only india lagging in 155MM field gun, if you didn't noticed , india bought late number of MBRL's to compensate this......

BY the what ever your reserve is , it will always be lower then India....

now lets see

indian has active main guns
A) Bofors 155mm - 200Nos
B) M46 /upgrade 155mm - 180 nos
C) M46 - 130mm -- 550 Nos
C) M101 -350 nos
D) Indian Field Gun MK 1/2/3 --- with 30Km range --- 1,700 now

reserve -
75mm Mountain Howitzer - 900 now
88mm 25 pounder - 800 nos
100 mm --- 700 Nos

and counting , care to tell your guns?

M110 203mm 60
M109 155mm 320
(Both A2 and A5
variants of M109)
SH1 155mm 90
M7 105mm 50
M115 203mm 28
MKEK Panter 155mm 72
M198 155mm 150
M114 155mm 150
M59 155mm 30
T59 130mm 410
T54 122mm 490
T60 122mm 200
M56 105mm 113
D30 122mm 143
Melara M56 105mm 50
M101 105mm 250
T56 85mm 200
QF25 Pounder 88mm 1000

And MRLs
A100E 42
KRL122 40
Azar 52

So Indian total with approx 5380 guns
And Pakistan Totals with 3278 guns

Wow i am a real day dreamer lolz. Thats a real HUGE edge over Pakistan armed forces i should say i am scared.
Lolz
On topic thats not even twice the numbers :p:
 
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Peace can be achieved by destroying the enemy also.......
Well the only thing you can destroy with your current military is smaller nations like Bangladesh Srilanka Nepal.
Any other "Destroying" attempt will get a jaw breaking punch in return from either red side or green :p:

On the other hand Peace is the win win situation. I dont hate india because i have some very dear friends from india from my profession and i love indian movies lolz but crackpots like you need to face reality.
Peace Peace and we can be brother in arms.
Supa Powa bull shit then prepare for consequences :-)
But i know Delhi is ruled by sane sensible people not crack pot "Destroyers" like yourself
So Jai hind for peacefull indian friends :p:
Your kind can go f*** o**
 
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did you what is intense fighting is? means virtually continuous 24x7 20 days bombing....... suppose 1 lac MRBLS landing in city for 20 days , what will happen ?
:omghaha: salute to your common sense
 
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BTW way . PT5353 , was never occupied by Indian force and Neither PAK , but PAK came and occupied . Due to strategic reasons Tiger hill is the highest hill and can overlook the PT5353 in event of full scale war PT5353 can be taken out easily as it surrounded by 3 sides.

Ah yes, it was in IOK but not controlled by India, I see, RIP Common sense.

and pakistan navy failed to even do a scratch on indian navy:dance3::dance3:

INS Khukri????. Surely it was not a part of IN or was it.

some military action by carpet bombing which avoid any risking of pakistan army soldiers makes you win, and your army just win against under equipped, under trained local resistance force who don't have any military training. it is not a real war. most of the enemy kills are done by pakistan air force jets's carpet bombing. and those killed in the bombing are declared as terrorists including children and women

Nope, before launching the operation area was cleared, and no. Soldiers were sent on foot and carried out nearly 80% of the clear out, the jets only attack IED and explosive factories, but your crappy IA couldn't even do that, and neither could your IAF do much anything against Maoists, a paper power is all that you remain.

indian air force never surrender to PAF. are you making your own stores?? don't you know that mig-21 was the main fighter jet which help IAF to gain air supremacy in east Pakistan.
Surely this is not an IAF surrendered Gnat?:
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Surely this is not an IAF Ouragan:
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Sure who's making up stories, if they teach this to, I see why you turned out to be such a retard #FeelSorryForYou .:dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3:
 
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