Operation Peace Spring in Northern Syria : The Turkish initiative to create safe zone

[Surenas]

Most northern Syria, northern Iraq, south eastern Turkey, north western Iran have been TURK home for over 900 years .. so what ?

The Kurds have never obtained a permanent nation state in history ... and Most of the Kurds dont support PKK/YPG Terror Organization

Munbij , Telabyad , Rasulayn , Raqqa ,etc have over 90% of Arab population
I am saying again Kurdish Population is about 5% in Syria ..... but the US backed PKK/YPG Terrorists invaded Arab and Turkmen cities (30% of Syrian territory ) ... and PKK/YPG Terrorists killed thousands of Arabs-Turkmens and forced hundreds of thousands of Arabs-Turkmens to move to Turkey from their lands in N.Syria

btw The Kurds are from South India and caves of ZAGROS Mountains in Iran

I always thought that Germany had a decent education system, but I'll guess since your forefathers likely migrated to Germany to clean toilets as guestworkers you haven't enjoyed the fruits of that great system.

Kurds are not from South India. And the Turks settled in the Middle East at the expense of other people. Don't mix things up.

 

[dBSPL]

These days, nearly 1 million refugees living in Turkey, emigrated from the territories currently under the PKK occupation.

Amnesty reports in 2015 and 2017 clearly show that Pkk/ypg is doing ethnic cleansing. Especially on Telabyad - Rusulayn line. Even the Kurds who did not fall under the Pkk ideology were forced to migrate. These days at least 350,000 Syrian Kurds, live as refugees in Turkey.

The PKK / YPG did not give life to any Kurdish political movement outside its own ideology. ENKS offices were closed and their managers were thrown into dungeons. However, people whose mind is shaped by strong mechanism, has not attained the mental maturity that will remember even two years ago. Victims of perceptive engineering under heavy propaganda.

Even in the AynelArab resistance which they are proud still, Turkey opening the border for crossings of the 20,000 peshmerga "with weapons" . AynelArab was liberated from the occupation of Daesh terrorists because all the logistics were provided by Turkey.

These are all evident. It happened in front of the world. But the propaganda machine continues to work continuously without hearing us and muting our voice.

Even when Saddam Hussein start to push Sorani Kurds and made some kind of genocide attempt on a large areas, Turkey take more than 250 thousand kurdish relatives inside the borders . Also We tried to help the other side of the border to other million. That day, the Kurdish population of this, currently over one million and living in Turkey.

including Talabani and Barzani, all members of the Iraqi Kurds political movements lived under the protection of Turkey with the Republic of Turkey passports.

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On July 14, 1959, the Baath regime and Kurdish leader Mullah Mustafa Barzani formed an alliance and signed an unprecedented massacre in the Turkmen city of Kirkuk. All ethnic structure of the city has been changed. 25 Turkmen leaders were massacred. Turkmen neighborhoods were looted.

Not only Kirkuk, Talafar, Mosul, Erbil, Altunköprü, Kirkuk, Tuzhurmatu, Kifri, Kara Tepe, Hanekin, Mendeli, southeast of Baghdad and dozens of Turkish towns/suburbswere lived massacres . People were forced to migrate.

Now imagine; If Turkey had the any feeling with hatred, Did they open its doors during Saddam's period or just watch? Today, the Pkk terrorist organization dealing with US subcontracting and demoraphic engineering under the name of ypg in Syria.So Why the Turkey backed Interim Goverment and its military wing NSA structure that consists of 30% of Kurds.

This is not an issue between Turks and Kurds. This issue consists of legitimate security concerns regarding a subcontracted terrorist organization of a legitimate state.


I'd like to write a lot more here. But I can hardly keep myself from breaking anybody's heart, not reminding their own dirty past. These are times of opportunity that show who wants to believe in his/her mind, not what is actually happening. You get to know people with this.

 

[cabatli_53]

To realize who has stolen others land to change the population, Just compare inhabitants of groups and locations controlled by terrorists.

vs

%90 of YPG controlled area belong to Syrian Arabs fled to Turkey and Those locations will be delivered to real owners.

 

[MMM-E]

I always thought that Germany had a decent education system, but I'll guess since your forefathers likely migrated to Germany to clean toilets as guestworkers you haven't enjoyed the fruits of that great system.

in economic wiev many members of the Turkish community left their laborer identity and have established their private businesses

The number of companies establish by Turkish businessesmen in Europe has risen to over 140.000 ( over 70.000 in Germany )
Their total annual turnover exceeds over 50 billion Euros ( over 30 billion euros in Germany )
even Croatia or Slovenia or Lithuania has no 50 billion Euros of GDP Nominal

Kurds are not from South India. And the Turks settled in the Middle East at the expense of other people. Don't mix things up.

Gypsies and Kurds are from South India ..... go and cry in India and caves of ZAGROS Mountains in Iran

The Turks created 16 great Empires in 3 Continents in the last 2500 years
on the other hand The Kurds have never obtained a permanent nation state in history



btw The TURKS took Anatolia from Byzantine Empire , not from ugly smelly PKK/YPG Terrorists

 

[dBSPL]

The ethnicity map above is not correct. It is unclear what sources used and what field research is done. It seems a study based on political goals and with perceptual targets.

If someone is curious about demographic structure of middile east, let's open a topic at academic level where we can talk about it.

If we are sharing maps to develop propaganda discourse that is completely unrelated to this operation title: I can fill this place with dozens of maps.

 

[sammuel]

The Kurds have never obtained a permanent nation state in history ... and Most of the Kurds dont support PKK/YPG Terror Organization

I suppose most of the Kurds have some sort of national inspirations and that is the background for this attack.

There are about 1.5 million Kurds in this region and after years of them and their culture being oppressed by the Syrians showed some signs of Autonomy.

This is what Turkey is afraid of , and not some terror attack from Syria - cause this so far is an imaginary threat that simply had not yet happen.

Very few people outside Turkey understand what exactly Turkey hopes to accomplish with this move.

If the purpose is to defend against Terror attacks that did not happen , than maybe there would be some logic to this move.

But if the purpose is to strangle Kurdish ambitions than i doubt 30 miles security zone would do that

It is easy enough to enter and occupy another country , but to to stay there with a population that is hostile to you is another matter.

Even superpowers are reluctant to do that.

Hence Trump was more than happy to get out of the Syrian Swampy mud , while Erduagn gladly and hastily thought it wise to dive right in.


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[damm1t]

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Looks like we have one of the banned Chinese dudes opened a new profile and joined the discussion again
Hatred of Turkey driven empty talks as usual... Pathetic bacterias

 

[damm1t]

It is easy enough to enter and occupy another country , but to to stay there with a population that is hostile to you is another matter.

Well we have millions of guests that we saved from death and waiting to return home. That area is not a Kurdish populated area so rightful locals and refugees will stand with us. These are all well calculated steps, don't worry.

 

[Jugger]

btw The Kurds are from South India and caves of ZAGROS Mountains in Iran

Kurds are not from South India. And the Turks settled in the Middle East at the expense of other people. Don't mix things up.

This is some next level stuff.

 

[dBSPL]

IMPORTANT

After friday prayer, journalists' observation hotel in Nusaybin attacked by pkk/ypg terrorists. The southern wall of the building was hit by artillery. Two sniper shots were fired at the location of the journalists on the terrace, on the 5th floor. Two journalists were slightly injured.

Yesterday they killed a mother and her two children at Akçakale. And Today, Nusaybin. They attack towns near the border with mortars and even RPGs. More than 60 civilians were injured. Two journalists were injured today.

If the corridor of terror had been accepted by Turkey, it would confront every day with these facts.

 

[dBSPL]

Sarı torbalar akıyor maşallah.

Dead bodies of ypg terorists are flooding

While the FSA was trying to defend Aleppo from Regime forces 3 years ago, the YPG opened a second front and supported the Assad regime slaughtering many Opposition fighters. They have never forgotten the Pkk, which cooperated with the regime and helped to exile more than half million people through numerous massacres, In the siege of Aleppo and around of Aleppo.

Those accusing the NSA of radicalism are too blind to see that PKK/YPG not have any difference from DAESH , in the eyes of local people.

 

[MMM-E]

This is what Turkey is afraid of , and not some terror attack from Syria - cause this so far is an imaginary threat that simply had not yet happen.

after invasion of Iraq by 1991 the US and the UK created terror corridor in N.Iraq
and PKK Terrorists always attacked Turkey from Pkk Terror camps in N.Iraq since 1991

Turkey lost hundreds of billions of dollars and more than 40.000 people to fight Pkk terrorism in the last 30 years


today same senario in N.Syria
the US , the UK , France , Israel wants to create terror corridor in N.Syria

the US supplied the YPG/PKK terrorists with over 50,000 trucks of weapons to fight with Turkey
PKK/YPG Terrorists attacked Turkish cities more than 700 times from N.Syria since 2016
and many Turkish citizens dead

even yesterday 7 civilians including 1 baby , 11-12 and 15 years old girls have been killed and 70 others injured in rocket and mortar attacks launched by PKK/YPG terrorists from northern Syria to Turkey's southeastern Şanlıurfa and Mardin provinces


this time We will not allow the US , the UK , France , Israel backed PKK/YPG terrorists in N.Syria to attack on Turkey for another 30 years to lose hundreds of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of innocent people including women, children and infants

 

[Dinky]

Why do Chinese members here on pdf support separatists such as the ypg terrorists when China's campaign against the "3 evils" includes separatists?

Big hypocrites

 

[dBSPL]

@MMM-E

These people are such humanitarians so much so that they don’t want Syrian Arab and Muslim refugees. So much so that they did not give a f*ck when the US coalition killed 4,036 civilians in Syria, or Assad & his allies killing at least 500k civilians and displaced 10m people.

These people are such humanitarians, when Ghouta, Douma, Madaya, Homs, and even East Aleppo with the help of the YPG who ethnically cleansed Arabs from their areas, the western world said f*ck all and did f*ck all.

These people are such humanitarians the when assad used CW’s in 2013, they went out into the street to protest against any action being taken against Assad and shouted “hands off Syria”.

These people are such humanitarians, they’ve realised that Turkey has invaded Syria BUT they somehow failed to realise that Russia, America, Iran, Iraq, hezbollah, Afghanis, have already invaded Syria and even occupying parts of Syria right now.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Why do Chinese members here on pdf support separatists such as the ypg terrorists when China's campaign against the "3 evils" includes separatists?

Big hypocrites

They don't want any nation speaking out against their oppression against Uighur Muslims in East Turkestan. President Erdogan has spoken out against the mass incarceration that China is committing against those defenseless Muslims, and the Chinese PDF members were fully up in arms.

@MMM-E

These people are such humanitarians so much so that they don’t want Syrian Arab and Muslim refugees. So much so that they did not give a f*ck when the US coalition killed 4,036 civilians in Syria, or Assad & his allies killing at least 500k civilians and displaced 10m people.

These people are such humanitarians, when Ghouta, Douma, Madaya, Homs, and even East Aleppo with the help of the YPG who ethnically cleansed Arabs from their areas, the western world said f*ck all and did f*ck all.

These people are such humanitarians the when assad used CW’s in 2013, they went out into the street to protest against any action being taken against Assad and shouted “hands off Syria”.

These people are such humanitarians, they’ve realised that Turkey has invaded Syria BUT they somehow failed to realise that Russia, America, Iran, Iraq, hezbollah, Afghanis, have already invaded Syria and even occupying parts of Syria right now.

The West and their Zionist bosses wants to remove the Arabs and Muslims in general from their ancestral homeland in Bilad Al-Shaam.

They also want to destabilize other Muslim nations in the region, so they can't offer any help to the people in the region.