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Did you just tell me that the J-10 is the most "advanced" jet the Chinese have.....the J-11, the J-15, J-16, J-20,J-31 are all names of single propeller planes from WW1 then, I guess??!
So the rest are SU-30 and SU-27 copies....so those aren't capable enough??? So what about your SU-30? How's that super advanced with a few nicer avionics and the ones the Chinese have are crap??? I am super confused....propaganda is one thing but don't stupidfy (my word), an entire discussion......
Pakistan Air Force To Skip J-10B and Go For Chinese Stealth Fighter J-31?
According to reports Pakistan Air force will skip J-10 and wait for the 5th generation Chinese stealth Fighter the Shenyang J-31.
Not much is known about the capabilities of the plane.The plane can carry weapons in internal bays like F-35,and will be ready in the next 2-3 years.
Pakistan Air Force plans to keep manufacturing and improving their 4th generation Fighter jet JF-17 Thunder till the induction of Chinese stealth fighter.
http://www.asian-defence.net/
how many Stealth Planes can PAF afford?Advantage of stealth is quite evident and PAF maga minds have realized this fact. Every interview from PAF Top brass suggest that PAF is looking towards 5th Generation fighter rather than 4++. ACM even hinted PAF analysing future technologies of the 6th generation fighters. There are good chances that PAF might team up with Turkey for a 5 Gen+ fighter, while acquiring some 5th Generation from China or US (which ACM already hinted).
PAF will try to bring up Jf-17s and F-16s to 4++ level while saving money for 5th Generation fighter.
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Chinese J-31 Stealth fighter.
India isn't getting anything till 2020-2022...
We have 6 to 8 years...
By that time, we'll have hundreds of JF-17s block II, III, etc...F-16s...and then acquisition of J-31 stealth bomber/fighter will completely neutralize any indian acquisition.
The gap between PAF and IAF was greatest of history in 2001-02 stand-off.....and IAF couldn't launch even a surgical strike inside Pakistan territory back then.
After that, Gap has only been decreasing and this trend would continue in coming future, Inshallah
In 2008, premiere IAF fighter, a fully armed Su-30MKI, entered Pakistani Air Space during high tensions....only to be locked-on by our F-16s and later, our 7 fighter jets "escorted" India's most lethal plane back to the border
After that, IAF never even dared to enter Pak's airspace during that tense time...let alone going forward with a surgical strike...let alone thinking about an open air-conflict with PAF....
In ALL previous engagements, where IAF and PAF engaged each other in shooting war, PAF was able to shoot down way more IAF aircrafts than vice versa.
See this thread started by a well-informed senior Indian member itself...
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history-strategy/38075-paf-kills-versis-iaf-kills.html
PAF is not doing business of affordability , well why Rafale even after SU-30 MKI ,PAF has habit of puzzling IAFhow many Stealth Planes can PAF afford?
As many it takes PAF to keep IAF at bay. It doesn't matter how many Su-30s or Rafael's IAF add to it's inventory. They stand no chance in BVR engagements. Russian are really struggling with their 5th generation fighter. Western analysts even doubt on that Russian design is good enough for a stealth fighter to began with. IAF is Shit out of luck.how many Stealth Planes can PAF afford?
That's for F-16s, if India is willing to place a big order. Which Lockheed martin has already started closing down in Texas, US. Most of F-16s employees have already being transitioned into F-35 assembly line.but un-fortunately lockheed martin planning to shift production line to ind we may face availability and spare parts difficulty how PAF cannot answere only diplomatic conditions can make way for PAF
You forgot to add unicorns to this list.Can paf match this with Chinese jets
Future acquisition of India
Hindustan
Suprsukhoi.320(2020)
Rafael......... 36(2020)
Tejas1a...... 120 (2020)
Mig35mki....124 (2020)
Pakfa.......... 100 (2020)
F-35 Israel. 40 (2025)
Fgfa............ 147 (2025)
Amca......... 250 (2030)
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/no-j-10b...platform-instead.313405/page-46#ixzz4JC4YnrJf
yeah add F-22 too and J-20 alsoBrother this will happen..
October 2016 Rafale deal .....done
December 2016 ..super sukhoi
First quarter 2017 Fgfa / Pakfa
2017 middle Mig 35 for quantity
2018 ....f 35 for navy
Same to your crapy TEJASThunder can't fight future wars ...
Unicorns were not added by him , because they are getting SUPER unicornYou forgot to add unicorns to this list.
Can paf match this with Chinese jets
Future acquisition of India
Hindustan
Suprsukhoi.320(2020)
Rafael......... 36(2020)
Tejas1a...... 120 (2020)
Mig35mki....124 (2020)
Pakfa.......... 100 (2020)
F-35 Israel. 40 (2025)
Fgfa............ 147 (2025)
Amca......... 250 (2030)
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/no-j-10b...platform-instead.313405/page-46#ixzz4JC4YnrJf
U are right , but tejas is no our main. Fighter will do supporting role ..but jf17 now yr main jet in near future... this will make a use deference.yeah add F-22 too and J-20 also
Same to your crapy TEJAS
yeah add F-22 too and J-20 also
Don't laugh ,,u should prepare yr self for best..
Possible. F22 export version....offered by lockheed Martin if with f16 deal future option...if Japan cellect it aa next fighter jet 40 billion project, and us assembly approve it ,,, then India go for it with f 16 deAl ...in place of f35.
Same to your crapy TEJAS
J 31 would be a gambling decision for paf don't throw yr full money on it...and very costly also.. I think u should go for Mig 35 . Egypt signed deal 50 jets for $2 billion . Cost effective 4.5+ gen fighter... affordable for Pakistan..... 100 Mig 35 best for paf if Russia allows...
Thunder can't fight future wars ...