Navy inks Rs 3000-cr AJT deal

[CONNAN]

Navy inks Rs 3000-cr AJT deal

Posted: Sun Jul 25 2010, 03:49 hrs
New Delhi:

With two new aircraft carriers set to be inducted in the next five years and its air fleet in expansion mode, the Indian Navy has signed a Rs 3,042 crore deal to procure advanced trainer aircraft to train its aviators. The deal to procure 17 new Hawk Advanced Jet Trainers (AJTs) was signed on Friday and the aircraft will be delivered starting 2013.

While the Air Force has already inducted advanced trainer aircraft, this is the first time that such high capability trainers are being inducted by the Navy, which is rapidly expanding its aerial capabilities, and has recently inducted its first supersonic fighter — the MiG 29 K that will be operated from the Gorshkov aircraft carrier.

The Navy, which has currently been training its pilots at the Air Force academy, will induct the new trainers from 2013 and will set up a parallel training academy for pilots. The British origin Hawks, which will be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), would be used to train fighter pilots that will fly the MiG 29 K fighters as well as the naval Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) that is still under development.

The deal for additional Hawk trainers had been put on the back burner following issues of pricing but went back on track after manufacturer BAE Systems lowered the offered price for the follow-on order. The IAF is also looking for a follow-on order for 40 Hawks and the deal is is now close to be finalised. The Hawk aircraft had earlier come under the scanner after a spat between BAE and HAL with the latter accusing the British firm of supplying inferior parts and delaying supply of components.

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However, with the issue sorted out, the Navy will get its much needed trainer on time. The navy needs to train scores of pilots in a short time period as it gears to induct over 50 aircraft over the next five years. While 16 MiG 29 Ks had been ordered initially, the navy has recently placed an order for an additional 29 fighters with Russia.

It will also be getting eight Boeing P 8I maritime multi-mission aircraft from the US as well as additional helicopters for the Gorshkov aircraft carrier. If the Naval LCA meets its requirements, the Navy will place an order for at least 20 aircraft.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Connan,

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[CONNAN]

Connan,

Thats for this awesome news.
I heartily appreciate ur energy and devotion to post regular news and indian defence updates.

A million thanks.

Keep Going.

thank you buddy

 

[Indian-Devil]

Its really a good news. Indian Navy most of the times put requirement on time and its a good decision again by them.

 

[jha]

A naval trainer (read aircraft carrier-capable trainer) like T-45 Goshawk would have been a much better option..However i dont know whether this is on offer or, not..?

 

[somebozo]

I must say..the future of Pakistan in any conflict is total toast!

 

[Archie]

since 2005 u see india wasted 10000 trillion dollars sir
till 2008 , the total capital expenditure by indian arm forces between 2000-08 was 25 Billion USD , though it has increased to 40 billion usd thanks to several big deals having been signed in the the last 2 years

And another thing , Indians are capable of manufacturing intermediate jets trainers , u can take a look at IJT Kiran and its future replacement IJT Sitara
however they are not capable of developing an advance jet trainer , since such a trainer pocesses many features of 4+ gen fighters like display systems , avionics ,
Now u cant expect IAF to use Su30mki For pilot training , can u .

 

[Archie]

I must say..the future of Pakistan in any conflict is total toast!

NO NEED TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUDDY

However ,if u ask me then PN should take my advice and ask china for some 25-30yr old destroyers , i mean these will definitely be more capable than OHPs Which PN is acquiring from USA , and whose number is expected to be some thing between 6-8 ships
Now my advice is that PN should reduce that number to 4 and then go for 3 second hand 5000 ton destroyers , since i expect good friend china to provide the destroyers without removing any weapon systems , then PN can spend 70 million USD on upg each ship to fire RAAD cruise missile , i am sure that each of those destroyers will be capable of carrying 6-8 cruise missiles and would be at par with Indian Rajput class destroyer

Well the point is 12 FRIGATES AND 3 DESTROYERS WILL DO A MUCH BETTER JOB FOR PN ,against an indian CBG THAN 18 FRIGATES ,

 

[Tshering22]

That's a lot of money! If at all the deal has been signed, I hope that the deal has lesser corruption and more transparecy between the parties. The Kirans are getting ancient. But I have a feeling that BAE is really offering expensive trainers and we should have considered choosing a line of trainer beforehand.

(on a side note: how do we use the Rupee symbol on PDF? I tried but i get tilde operator all the time here)

 

[KEETARP]

A naval trainer (read aircraft carrier-capable trainer) like T-45 Goshawk would have been a much better option..However i dont know whether this is on offer or, not..?

Bang On JHA ji

If I am not wrong , T45 is derived from HAWK ver 100 only .

Let's see - May be IN HAWK is spin of from T45 .

 

[navtrek]

I must say..the future of Pakistan in any conflict is total toast!

I dont see that coming. India will not be a bully i dont think there will any agression from our side nothing to worry abt.

 

[jha]

Bang On JHA ji

If I am not wrong , T45 is derived from HAWK ver 100 only .

Let's see - May be IN HAWK is spin of from T45 .

Yes..it was being produced by Boeing...
I am sure if IN had expressed interest we could have easily got these..
Donno why we are getting HAWK for IN..

 

[Archie]

A naval trainer (read aircraft carrier-capable trainer) like T-45 Goshawk would have been a much better option..However i dont know whether this is on offer or, not..?

Well , if u ask me then the reason why indian navy went with the Hawk , was becoz it wanted to train its fighter pilots seperately from IAF and as the article say ,navy will build its own pilot training school.
And another thing is that , along with the HAWK they have also ordered 40 IJT SITARA intermediate jet trainer ,
For carrier takeoff and landing training , navy will most probably use the 8 mig29kub aircraft which they are acquiring as well as the 6 Tejas N trainer which they will acquire along with 20 tejas n


Another reason for not acquiring carrier capable trainer could be that ,
coz both Gorshkov and Vikrant are mid size carrier , capable of operating 30-40 aircrafts ,unlike USN carrier which can operate 90 aircrafts , hence there is not much space to operate trainers from the carriers unless they are combat capable

 

[jha]

Well , if u ask me then the reason why indian navy went with the Hawk , was becoz it wanted to train its fighter pilots seperately from IAF and as the article say ,navy will build its own pilot training school.
And another thing is that , along with the HAWK they have also ordered 40 IJT SITARA intermediate jet trainer ,
For carrier takeoff and landing training , navy will most probably use the 8 mig29kub aircraft which they are acquiring as well as the 6 Tejas N trainer which they will acquire along with 20 tejas n


Another reason for not acquiring carrier capable trainer could be that ,
coz both Gorshkov and Vikrant are mid size carrier , capable of operating 30-40 aircrafts ,unlike USN carrier which can operate 90 aircrafts , hence there is not much space to operate trainers from the carriers unless they are combat capable

for carrier borne training INS HANSA will be used..not the real carriers..
Anyways if navy wants a separate training school then it makes even more sense to have T-45 as AJT rather than HAWK...