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correct me if i am wrong but
I know another caste also uses Chaudry with their names and they claim anyone with land is chaudry! :what:
We have a family friend whose grandpa uses Chaudry because they have lots of land in Pakistan...

Yeah but they are fake chaudhrys.

Even in India they use title Chaudhry.


Arain can be Chaudhry, Mian, Malik, Mehar.
 
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shut up LOL nope I am sick so actually nothing better to do in bed than be on here and other social networking sites. I AM NOT A KID!!!! :P 18 is considered adult in the US.
@ZYXW well...hmmm... :coffee: yea in the US not in a desi forum!! :rofl:
 
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@Talon stop bulldozing my feelings! We are all children of Adam! Stop being cruel! :suicide:
 
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shut up LOL nope I am sick so actually nothing better to do in bed than be on here and other social networking sites. I AM NOT A KID!!!! :P 18 is considered adult in the US.
@Talon do you remember when we were 18 - We thought we had all grown up & then the 20s came & a doze of reality struck when the Graduation was right around the corner & we still hadn't figured out where our lives were heading ! :D
 
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Yeah but they are fake chaudhrys.
Even in India they use title Chaudhry.
Arain can be Chaudhry, Mian, Malik, Mehar.
@RazPaK
How can you tell you are real or fake? I know my dada was a proud arain...he kept saying hum pakkay arain hain!! :rofl:
 
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Interesting article on Arain for you Talon:

Punjab's reputation as a loyalist province, which provided the British Indian Army with soldiers and a solid socio-political support base in the form of a dependent landed class, has eclipsed its rather variegated history, which includes heroic tales of resistance to occupation and foreign rule throughout the ages. Thus, for example, Raja Porus, who ruled a principality in northern Punjab in the ancient period, gave stiff resistance to the invading armies of Alexander the Great, but was defeated by the Greeks near Jhelum in 326 BC. The Khatris of Punjab claim him among their ancestors.

According to Kalpana Sahni -- daughter of the famous Rawalpindi-born, Government-College-Lahore-educated Bollywood actor, the late Balraj Sahni, the Khatris of Behra to which their family belongs -- trace their ancestry to Porus. She has narrated this story on the authority of another famous Punjabi Khatri family with a connection to Government College, Lahore, and to Bollywood: Chetan Anand, the noted late Indian filmmaker and elder brother of evergreen, matinee hero Dev Anand.

Then, there is the story of Dulla Bhatti, a Muslim Rajput who led a rebellion against the Mughals during the reign of Akbar. His story has been rendered in both poetry and prose. Rai Ahmed Khan Kharal, claimed both by Muslim Rajputs and Jatts, who took up arms against the British from western Punjab during 1857, is another hero in that tradition.

Closer to our own times, the legend of Bhagat Singh, a Sikh Jatt, has only grown bigger with time, and several Bollywood pictures have been made on that theme. The Kambohs take pride in Udham Singh from their caste who shot dead Sir Michael O'Dwyer, the Punjab governor who originally gave orders for harsh action at Jallianwala, on April 13, 1919. The actual carnage had been ordered on the spot by General Dyer.

However, one great freedom fighter from Punjab whose heroic struggle has not been given proper recognition is Shah Abdul Qadir Ludhianvi. His direct descendant, Maulana Habibur Rahman Sani, who is currently the chief imam of the main Friday Mosque in Ludhiana, in east Punjab, provided me detailed information on him in an interview recorded on Jan 4, 2005, in the courtyard of the mosque.

Maulana Sani's grandfather, Maulana Habibur Rahman, was one of the founders of the Majlis-e-Ahrar, a movement of anti-imperialist nationalist Muslims, who returned to India after spending one day in Lahore in August 1947, arguing that thousands of Muslims remained in east Punjab and they should not be abandoned. That is how that family remained in Ludhiana.

My attention to Maulana Sani was drawn by Baldev Raj Verma, owner of Naseem Hosiery in Ludhiana, whose father, Hansraj, was on the famous Japanese ship, Komagata Maru, in 1914 chartered by Punjabis, mainly Sikhs, to get to Canada. They were refused entry. It resulted in the emergence of the Ghadar Party and the first anti-colonial struggle in early 20th century in Punjab.

Mr Verma informed me that a famous Muslim family of freedom fighters from Ludhiana still lived in the town centre and were in charge of the main mosque, where thousands of Muslims congregated every Friday to pray. Ludhiana is the major industrial city of east Punjab. Indeed workers from all over India come and work there, among them a very large numbers of Muslims from UP and Bihar.

Maulana Habibur Rahman Sani informed me that his family belonged to the Arain biradari (patrilineage). His great, great grandfather, Shah Abdul Qadir Ludhianvi, was the first in Punjab to take up arms against the English East India Company in 1857. He collected a large fighting force, which included Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs, that drove the English out of not only Ludhiana but also Panipat. He then headed to Delhi with his men to support Bahadur Shah Zafar. He fell fighting along with thousands of others at Chandni Chowk in 1857.

In British records Ludhianvi is described as a fiery speaker who exercised considerable influence on the people in that region. Some reports incorrectly describe him as a Gujjar. In any event, the British deprived his family of their property and subjected them to other forms of persecution. The Arains in general were branded as a dangerous group, their lands were confiscated and they were excluded from recruitment in the army; hence their classification as a non-martial group.

However, his descendants continued to support revolutionary struggles and both the Ghadar Party and later Bhagat Singh's associates were aided by them. They also helped Subhash Chandra Bose cross Punjab safely into the North-West Frontier Province. The Tribune, Chandigarh, of Jan 7, 2001, carried a story on the anti-imperialist services of that family.

It is worth remembering that the British adopted similar harsh measures against the Bengalis and Biharis, and some tribes and castes from UP that took part in the Uprising of 1857. They were also declared unfit for military service. Therefore, excluding Arains from the army was consistent with British policy on rebellious tribes and castes.

However, in the ancient, Mughal and Sikh periods, Arains had held prominent positions, such as governors and army generals. Many gotras, or sub-clans, of the Arains bear names that indicate soldiering as an occupation. For example: Ghalar, Gahgeer and Goheer (ferocious horse of armoured corps), Gatku (fencer), Kavali (soldier patrolling while others rest), Basroo (observation post), Bahman (brave, uncontrollable or insurmountable), Bhaila (alms-keeper who walks with the commander when he is giving away alms after a victory), Daulay (those who got land in return for military services), Khatora (spy), Ramay (archers), Rattay (bloody, red, ferocious fighters), Ramday (red -eyed soldiers), Labanay (an army column equipped with batons), Jatalay (victors), Qutub Shahi: (soldiers or their offspring who accompanied Qutubuddin Aibak), Sappal (marksmen), Bahalwan (driver of a chariot), Mudh (logisticians supplying logistics and reinforcement to the army), Teerandaz (archers), Katarband (users of katar, a weapon used by ancient armies) and Bhutto (dwellers of high places).

It would be interesting if some filmmaker in Pakistan could depict the saga of Shah Abdul Qadir Ludhianvi on the silver screen. It would be important to contact his family in Ludhiana for more details, but more importantly the script should remain faithful to the true legacy of that great man. He was by no means a religious fanatic, although he described his struggle against the British as jihad. He was a patriot who joined hands with all communities in the first major struggle against the colonial takeover of the subcontinent.

An Arain freedom fighter
 
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Tell me about that one ... Never think a drug's side effects can be predicted accurately , never ! I remember I was prescribed a broncho-dilator Terbutaline Sulphate for my bronchitis - I experienced severe body temperature variations , muscle weakness , palpitations and that drug is used for kids ! There will always be a trade-off ... Indapamide works best with Perindopril with very balanced effects over the period of time , that is established with certainty and marketed around the world ...

Hypothetically , it would be a good replacement but still years and years of trials would be needed to get the drug approved from competent authorities ... I just cant predict what would the side effects be ...

Really ? You work for some pharmaceutical company ? If yes , what sort of labs do you have at your disposal ?

Well , personally , I always prefer XR formulations over normal release ... Doesn't hurt to keep the plasma levels steady and increase the effectiveness of the drug ...

Good to hear , bro ! :)

A nice read really.:)

No sir,not working for a Pharmaceutical.But i do have contacts.As everyone from my field usually has.
Also i'm more into surgery.:D
But i like both the subjects,it was very hard to choose one.While being in surgical department, our patients too has the similar sort of comorbidities (NIDDM-HTN) which very common espacially in elderly patients.

You are right every system gives a different response to an agent.Even changes the time of administration of a single drug can make a single dose suitable or unsuitable for an individual.

Nice to talk to you.
Have a nice day sir.:)
 
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You think most of the politicians ever cared, even the one's on our side- the one's who want liberation- I get it they want independence and yet they will dig into every chance to incite violence. I was at Kupwara- with my father, you need special permission to go there these days, we went there coz my dad was with the ministry of education and primary education has been successful in Kashmir but not followed up by higher education schemes- anyway what the villagers told us was eye-opening- not that ANYONE would appreciate the fellows candor- even I don't. He said, and I'm paraphrasing, "When my wife prays for my children- she fears for their well being- from your sainik and from their sipahi both- freedom is good but all of us except for them in the city we'll settle for peace." Didn't really talk to him much, being an Indian and all, here you've got to own your flag for better or for worse. :)

damnn that's really cute what he said. And Kashmiri people are very peaceful and would settle for anything that brings about peace. Unfortunately, when you grow up in the US you tend to become very idealistic and want things to be how you want them. It is a very negative quality because you can't settle for just living, you always want more. I have that trait and guess that's why i feel the way i do. But don't take my word for the kashmiri's they are a peaceful wonderful people. I am one person with one opinion, in no way would i want anyone to judge them on my words. Don't get me wrong, i love india and pakistan to death, but when it comes to this, i have the stance i do.
 
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@Talon now dont ignore me!
All rajputs cant donate to eachoter!
 
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@Talon stop bulldozing my feelings! We are all children of Adam! Stop being cruel! :suicide:
@Alpha1 are you going to be jealous of my cousins coz we share genetical information? :what: you study bio please do not disgrace your knowledge! Likewise all the other arains are my blood relatives because as far as I know I am a pure Arain and could be related to ANYOTHER Arain on the forum!! But does that mean you need to kill yourself? or does reality crush your feelings? take it to ALLAH's court then! Because he made me like this!!

It seems no amount of calling you my little bro is worth anything!!
 
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