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My Question? Future equipment and tools of Pakistan Navy till 2025....

Improving the navy is of vital importance, but in Pakistan's case, don't expect too much of an emphasis on surface ships. As it stands the PN will probably focus on strengthening its submarine and aviation forces with S20 SSKs and MPAs, respectively. The next phase, if possible, could be a push to acquire 6-8 new 3500-4000 ton multi-mission frigates capable of area wide air defence via a medium range surface to air missile system (e.g. Aster-15, HHQ-17, etc).

Besides the above we could reasonably expect efforts towards a few corvettes and fast attack missile boats.
 
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Than we are looking at disaster in waiting. Pakistan should have 16 to 18 Frigates and Corvettes and 4 to 6 Cruise Missile destroyers by than and 14 Submarines and 40 Missile boats and around 16 Jets like P3C Orion or similar and 2 squadrons of either JF-17 or J-11 D.
And who's going to pay for that? You?
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Improving the navy is an urgent need, but it will be slow, due to a lack of funds. Pakistan doesn't require a large navy, rather it needs a quick and precise one. A navy that is fully equipped to defend it's shores, and protect important shipping lanes.

PN's role is set to expand in the next 10 years, but don't expect too many major purchases.
 
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And who's going to pay for that? You?
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Improving the navy is an urgent need, but it will be slow, due to a lack of funds. Pakistan doesn't require a large navy, rather it needs a quick and precise one. A navy that is fully equipped to defend it's shores, and protect important shipping lanes.

PN's role is set to expand in the next 10 years, but don't expect too many major purchases.
How long do you think PN can resist IN for avoiding naval blockage......?
 
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Arming a navy more difficult then arming army and airforce togather
 
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Than we are looking at disaster in waiting. Pakistan should have 16 to 18 Frigates and Corvettes and 4 to 6 Cruise Missile destroyers by than and 14 Submarines and 40 Missile boats and around 16 Jets like P3C Orion or similar and 2 squadrons of either JF-17 or J-11 D.

Have u joined the nishan club
 
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Pakistan would do better to phase out equipment which cannot be put to use in present warfare. And that includes 5 Type21 ships. I believe the weapons system on them can be utilized on other new ships, and money spent on their upkeep too.

Why not install some weapons from the 1 decommissioned ship to your American OHP ship.
 
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BrahMos, though rather hyped up elsewhere, seems like a death star for Pakistan Navy. It should get serious about countering it, although China doesn't have any SAM capable to do it. Only Europe, US and Israel have it.
perhaps no one can claim to have 100% defense against cruise missiles like Brahmos
 
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No India will have soon 200 ships this is minimum for us
any genuine news on Pakistan getting some new frigates. and when are we going to hear more on the sub deal and when is it going to be signed?
 
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Fleet air defence has many layers starting from long range or Theater SAM, SR SAM and CIWS or Point defence.
So it was not a wrong decision. The next step would be Missile destroyers with Theater SAMs.


I being an aviator, personally do not agree with the need to have fighters in the Navy.

Air combat is altogether a separate specialization and takes decades to master and inculcate as a culture. PAF is tasked with the responsibility, so they are supposed to fulfill it. The PN has AShM on P-3Cs and Sea Kings. Land based fighters have a limited range and can only be used near land, which the PAF will take care off. Fighters only come in when we operate a carrier and that's not happening.

Do you know that the Royal Navy LRMPs Nimrod were flown by the RAF and not the RN, while they in service

We need to have a strong LRMP force along with ASW helicopters onboard.

Babur is a reality, even if we don't parade it around.
dear sir, the jets like J11b or J16 have high service ceiling, Medium/heavy payload, long range about 3600KM ,semi stealth,Aesa and Irst they are good for both naval or land warfare,specially deep penetration. Further their survivability ratio will be more. I still think whether these jets flown under banner of PAF or PN are must addition, They shall be quite enough to counter India. Further I agree with your reply regarding layers but our LY60 sam Medium range SAM on Type 21s is also having limited capabilities. Further if we are getting upgraded F22P version it should have atleast Medium range SAM, if we have naval version of Babur we should deploy it on PN ships, somtimes show of power is must to prevent any aggression. On paper facts showing naive position of PN.
 
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My Question? Future equipment and tools of Pakistan Navy till 2025....
What I think:
12 F-22P(Block-I-II-III) + 4 more F-22P(Block-IV)
10-16 FAC
4-6 Tankers
2-6 STUS
16 S-20P(Block-I-II) + 8 S-20P(Block-IIIs)
3 SSBN/SSN
20-30++ UAVs like Burrq & CH-4
12+ MPAs
30+ Helicopters
Coastal Air Defence and Surface Defence Missile Systems
Satellite Support
 
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Have u joined the nishan club
He is or not... :undecided::undecided:

How about this ...
What I think:
12 F-22P(Block-I-II-III) + 4 more F-22P(Block-IV)
10-16 FAC
4-6 Tankers
2-6 STUS
16 S-20P(Block-I-II) + 8 S-20P(Block-IIIs)
3 SSBN/SSN
20-30++ UAVs like Burrq & CH-4
12+ MPAs
30+ Helicopters
Coastal Air Defence and Surface Defence Missile Systems
Satellite Support
 
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I want to have some fun too...

1 ship.
 
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List of few surface ships operated by Pakistan navy ...................... created by me year ago
is it good enough? I am not a navy type person ...........


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List of few surface ships operated by Pakistan navy ...................... created by me year ago
is it good enough? I am not a navy type person ...........


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Problem is their number is not enough we need at lease 16 to 18 Frigates and 4 to 6 Destroyers and around 40 missile boats and 14 Sub's at least to counter 200 Ship Indian Navy
 
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