Muslim invasion created Dalits and tribals in India, says RSS

[Desi_Dalek]

Here is the reaction of Indian Institute of Dalit Studies and National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights. It's on the firstpost (cannot link it right now).

Indian Institute of Dalit Studies, Dilip G Diwakar, said “This is an unnecessary reactionary move by the RSS that is aimed to create antagonism between Hindus and Muslims. It is not merely a caste comment per se. This argument that is being made by the RSS is a very communal one."

Asked if he saw efforts to rewrite Dalit history as an attempt in that direction, Diwakar said, “Of course. As long as Dalits see themselves as separate from the upper caste, consolidation cannot happen. One, the RSS wants to consolidate the Hindus and two, they want to create antagonism between the lower-castes and the Muslim community, which will indirectly benefit the consolidation process.”

Asha Kowtal of the National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights said, “This is another conspiracy by the Brahmanical forces operating in the garb of RSS. Our histories have been altered for centuries now and as a result of which caste-Hindu forces claim every space - in education, business, public life etc. This is clearly another way of breaking up the excluded communities - like Dalits, minorities and lower-caste groups.” Kowtal is general secretary of the All India Dalit Mahila Adhikar Manch.

 

[baajey]

[quote="MokshaVimukthi, post: 6205607, member: 162470
OMG.... you mean the brahmins took up sword and stopped the Shudras ? [/quote]

do u have some issues man ???

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

MokshaVimukthi, post: 6205607, member: 162470
OMG.... you mean the brahmins took up sword and stopped the Shudras ?

do u have some issues man ???[/quote]

I do in pdf with liars, hypocrites and cowards. Nothing personal.

Here is the reaction of Indian Institute of Dalit Studies and National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights. It's on the firstpost (cannot link it right now).

Indian Institute of Dalit Studies, Dilip G Diwakar, said “This is an unnecessary reactionary move by the RSS that is aimed to create antagonism between Hindus and Muslims. It is not merely a caste comment per se. This argument that is being made by the RSS is a very communal one."

Asked if he saw efforts to rewrite Dalit history as an attempt in that direction, Diwakar said, “Of course. As long as Dalits see themselves as separate from the upper caste, consolidation cannot happen. One, the RSS wants to consolidate the Hindus and two, they want to create antagonism between the lower-castes and the Muslim community, which will indirectly benefit the consolidation process.”

Asha Kowtal of the National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights said, “This is another conspiracy by the Brahmanical forces operating in the garb of RSS. Our histories have been altered for centuries now and as a result of which caste-Hindu forces claim every space - in education, business, public life etc. This is clearly another way of breaking up the excluded communities - like Dalits, minorities and lower-caste groups.” Kowtal is general secretary of the All India Dalit Mahila Adhikar Manch.

Along expected lines.

They are more worried about how muslims will fare than gauging how dalits will fare with this revised narrative

 

[Iggy]

do u have some issues man ???

Nope he is just being he..

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Nope he is just being he..

Kya hua ? now playing the Vamp ?

 

[The Unnamed]

interesting non-sense coming out everyday. BJP factor?

watch and learn how to discuss theology without discussing a book, perhaps ???

 

[Indrani]

Here is the reaction of Indian Institute of Dalit Studies and National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights. It's on the firstpost (cannot link it right now).

Indian Institute of Dalit Studies, Dilip G Diwakar, said “This is an unnecessary reactionary move by the RSS that is aimed to create antagonism between Hindus and Muslims. It is not merely a caste comment per se. This argument that is being made by the RSS is a very communal one."

Asked if he saw efforts to rewrite Dalit history as an attempt in that direction, Diwakar said, “Of course. As long as Dalits see themselves as separate from the upper caste, consolidation cannot happen. One, the RSS wants to consolidate the Hindus and two, they want to create antagonism between the lower-castes and the Muslim community, which will indirectly benefit the consolidation process.”

Asha Kowtal of the National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights said, “This is another conspiracy by the Brahmanical forces operating in the garb of RSS. Our histories have been altered for centuries now and as a result of which caste-Hindu forces claim every space - in education, business, public life etc. This is clearly another way of breaking up the excluded communities - like Dalits, minorities and lower-caste groups.” Kowtal is general secretary of the All India Dalit Mahila Adhikar Manch.

These bunch of jokers are not taken seriously by anyone. They have forever tried to build kinship between Muslims and Dalits, to no avail. Dalits continue to hate Muslims.

 

[abjktu]

The whole article was about RSS claiming that the Dalits were higher caste and that disturbed the "secular" since it takes away their favourite story and whipping boy.

its a good initiative by RSS..no doubt about it...
but its quite funny to see that you now advocating for so called backward classes...
Aren't you the very same species who called Kerala Christians as low caste converts??

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

its a good initiative by RSS..no doubt about it...
but its quite funny to see that you now advocating for so called backward classes...
Aren't you the very same species who called Kerala Christians as low caste converts??

You want to discuss me rather than the book or the article or the thread ? ....... so what kind of species does that make you ? ... a despicable one ?

Kerala christians were low caste converters for most parts. That is just a historical fact. What have I got to do with it ?

This thread is about islamic invasion and how they pushed caste hindus into outcasts. Since the islamic invasion did not reach kerala, how is that relevant ? (except for Tipu)

 

[Iggy]

Kya hua ? now playing the Vamp ?

Just giving him ample warning not to cross swords with one who have superior genetics and education..

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Just giving him ample warning not to cross swords with one who have superior genetics and education..

Ah ... must be the much vaunted christian charity in action. ... what comes next ? conversion and saving of souls ?

 

[Iggy]

Ah ... must be the much vaunted christian charity in action. ... what comes next ? conversion and saving of souls ?

Nope we with nferior genetics wont stand a chance..

 

[abjktu]

Kerala christians were low caste converters for most parts. That is just a historical fact. What have I got to do with it ?

So you are now admitting that they were High-Low caste division in Indian society even before the colonial missionaries came???

 

[Desi_Dalek]

So, is this also the result of Muslim Invasion -

Dalits denied entry to Kalitheerthalkuppam temple

School dismisses 11 Dalit cousins over ‘defiling’ of water in Rajasthan

Bihar: Dalits dragged by horses, hit with pistol butt

Whether or not dalits were created due to Muslim invasion is true or not, it does not change the fact that we have many serious problems today and slinging mud at any community for what happened hundred years ago is not going to solve it and neither will it help BJP from getting votes.

BJP and RSS should focus on topics like Development and Modernization instead of this or love jihad.

 

[The Unnamed]

What kind of argument is that? It was not Brahmins who created the caste system. The caste system is a feature of every society and came to being with the birth of Human society. Who appointed Brahmins as higher caste? Who appointed judges and professors and scientists as the intellects of any society? Their education and their knowledge and courage is what distinguished them as higher caste. Can you tell me of a single society where this stratification is absent?

What the English did was spread lies and codified and distorted the caste system on the pattern of racism and brought evil to it.

lemme ask u this way. today, ie 2014 september, practically 2015, the condition some people are in, the shit they have to face at the hands of the so called upper class, the brahmin and the kshyatriya, these two classes are not abusing the power given to theem by a system which they themselves maintain BY RELIGION ? christians are not doing this untouchability stuff, muslims are not, why us ? who made this stuff up ? british ? they just found the syssstem to their advantage and they used it...some british even civilised these clowns of brahmins. the worst kind of blood suckers on earth.