Modi govt to implement Uniform Civil Code soon?

[CorporateAffairs]

Anti National Congress along with Owasi will create communal riots in the country.

 

[Nilgiri]

Completely support this move.

I will potentially add one full point to Modi's rating (currently of 6/10 from me) if this goes through (of course dependent on the final content).

 

[Razia Sultana]

Can someone from the supporters of uniform civil code answer the following -
1. Whats the meaning of Unity in diversity and Pluralist Society?
2. Do we have uniform tax system in whole of India?
3. Why some states have bicameral legislature and some unicameral?
4. Why cant all Indian citizens have the right to buy land in some areas like Himachal, Uttarakhand, NE, Chhattisgarh etc.?
5. Why there is not one uniform official national language in whole of India?
6. Why cant a shudra hindu become a priest in a temple?
7. Can we have a uniform Hindu civil law before going universal?
8. Can someone draft a model uniform civil code and put up for debate rather than firing in the air?
9. What benefits will uniform civil code bring that can not be worked out in the existing system?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

This will be last think India will do before it destroys its stability due to this action. And I firmly believe this will not occur.
https://defence.pk/threads/will-do-jihad-if-modi-applies-uniform-civil-code-shahi-imam.306850/

This will be last think India will do before it destroys its stability due to this action. And I firmly believe this will not occur.
https://defence.pk/threads/will-do-jihad-if-modi-applies-uniform-civil-code-shahi-imam.306850/

What we do in India is none of ur concern whether we implement it or no. We will implement it, and those opposing it peacefully is fine. Taking violence, whether Hindus or Muslims will be dealt with violence.

 

[Nilgiri]

1. Whats the meaning of Unity in diversity and Pluralist Society?
2. Do we have uniform tax system in whole of India?
3. Why some states have bicameral legislature and some unicameral?
4. Why cant all Indian citizens have the right to buy land in some areas like Himachal, Uttarakhand, NE, Chhattisgarh etc.?
5. Why there is not one uniform official national language in whole of India?
6. Why cant a shudra hindu become a priest in a temple?
7. Can we have a uniform Hindu civil law before going universal?
8. Can someone draft a model uniform civil code and put up for debate rather than firing in the air?
9. What benefits will uniform civil code bring that can not be worked out in the existing system?
Thanks in advance.

1. All basically revolves around identifying (or at least striving to identify) as Indian first before any other identity. Hence unity (India first) but not at the cost of your other identities (pluralism). This is the first step to then becoming a humanist/globalist when countries become irrelevant in the long run....(i.e the concept of ranking identities but not destroying them to do this).

2. Are you talking about federal/state/income/service? There is no uniform tax system because of the taxes currently enforced at the state level which varies from state to state. Federal tax system is by its definition uniform since it covers the Federation of India in its entirety. If and when India acquires overseas possessions and territories external to the federation, this may change. The GST seeks to unify this completely from a state level too....but it will still be non-uniform since there are local state taxes that do not come under GST purview (agricultural taxes for example and various duties). So again its a process to achieve an ideal...even if the ideal can never be quite reached.

3. Constitution of India stipulates the Legislative council of a state can choose either system with the idea that larger states will opt for Bicameral. IMO, every single legislative body in India (including parliament) should be unicameral for simplicity and efficiency.

4. There are various environmental/agricultural/cultural preservation reasons for doing so (in theory). Sometimes its ceilings, not sure if there are outright bans. A more learned member on this topic can address it better.

5. Why should there be just one for a country the size of India? If its decided to be just one, it should be one that everyone has to learn from scratch to prevent tyranny by majority in language realm. My suggestion would be modernised Sanskrit. At this juncture, it may be best to simply have no national language and continue the status quo and let people decide for themselves what to learn past their mother tongue.

6. Shudras (and even untouchables) can become priests depending on the sect of Hinduism. As for the root reason why this is not done in other sects, its similar to asking why a female Muslim cannot become an Imam in various sects of Islam. It must be defined what elements of religion do not infringe on basic human rights (and also define what those basic rights are) and can therefore be allowed to continue without impedance. To me, any religion can be practiced however it wants and organised in any way so long as no violent harm comes to anyone within or outside the religious practices and codes. People should be free to come and go without harm as members of any religion. This is all most easily done by not having a law code based on religion to begin with but rather independent of it (but can be based on ethics/morals/philosophies that are underlying all religions globally).

7. Hinduism is not a uniform religion but really a collection of religions and philosophies....some tightly related, some very loosely. The very concept of a "code" for Hindusim is anathema. It is defined by lack of code one can say. The guidelines for a civil code for a society where Hinduism exists would be external to any Hindu specific doctrine...since Hinduism itself is not defined dogmatically. Hindu philosophy (and philosophy from other religions as well especially when they are in general agreement) can be used to establish ethical and moral structures for the elements of the code that are relevant @Joe Shearer can give insight on this.

8. Maybe I will try when I get some time. The book "Need Of Uniform Civil Code" By Neema Qamar may shed some light on this for you in the meantime if you can get a hold of it.

9. In addition to the book in 8 which does a good job of explaining it in detail, let me give you a short summary of some reasons:

a) To be absolutely secular. Any law written in India should not have anything to do with any religion. Thus the only way India can be truly secular is to have a uniform civil code.

b) Legalese. A uniform civil code will greatly reduce the burden of having several personal laws and the loopholes present when that happens. Justice will be delivered more efficiently.

c) Conflicting laws will be removed. These can seem unfair/discriminatory etc. Why must a muslim woman have to reconcile with being able to be divorced by the triple talaq and a Hindu woman not worry as such?

d) Vote bank politics. Having no route to legislation on specifically community lines means less polarization and appeasment and popularism by politicians that ultimately divides a country into multiplie nations which leads to long term problems. This will however only be totally addressed when non-religious polarisation is also addressed (i.e Mandal commission and caste based reservation and policies).....but addressing this side of it (religion) is a welcome step to start with.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Can someone from the supporters of uniform civil code answer the following -
1. Whats the meaning of Unity in diversity and Pluralist Society?
2. Do we have uniform tax system in whole of India?
3. Why some states have bicameral legislature and some unicameral?
4. Why cant all Indian citizens have the right to buy land in some areas like Himachal, Uttarakhand, NE, Chhattisgarh etc.?
5. Why there is not one uniform official national language in whole of India?
6. Why cant a shudra hindu become a priest in a temple?
7. Can we have a uniform Hindu civil law before going universal?
8. Can someone draft a model uniform civil code and put up for debate rather than firing in the air?
9. What benefits will uniform civil code bring that can not be worked out in the existing system?
Thanks in advance.

Uniform civil code refers only to the common laws for marriage and property settlement. Not to legislatures in states.
Shudras can very well become priests of temples, atleast in TN temples, thanks to DMK.
Thirdly as u may know in British times, criminal laws were based on religion, and judges from that community can only reserve judgement on that particular individual. It was great that they abolished it before 1947, or else these parties wont have dared touched it.

Another reason simply put, hindus are jealous of Muslim mens, marrying 4 womens This is not common in states like Kerala or TN, but it is in UP, Bihar etc.

The seeds were sown due to actions of Rajiv Gandhi, courtesy Shah Bano case. It will prevent disputed marriages.

For eg, if a muslim marries a hindu or vice versa in Special Marriage act, their kids are not allowed inheritence since that the women didnt convert to their religion or was marriage conducted according to the rites. There are too many confusions..
Its better to have uniform laws, in which girl and man are free to follow their own religion, without conversion, promoting an healthy life. Also it protects women from so called triple talaq.

 

[Soumitra]

Law Commission seeks public opinion on Uniform Civil Code

The Law Commission on Friday sought public opinion on the exercise of revising and reforming family laws of all religions in the context of Article 44 of the Constitution, which talks of a Uniform Civil Code (UCC) for all citizens.

The Commission has appealed to members of religious, minority and social groups, non-government organisations, political parties and government agencies, to present their views through a questionnaire on a range of issues, including the practice of triple talaq and the right to property for a woman citizen.

“The objective behind this endeavour is to address discrimination against vulnerable groups and harmonise the various cultural practices. The Commission invites suggestions on all possible models and templates of a common civil code,” said the Commission in its appeal. The responses can be sent within 45 days, either through post or email.

In July, the Law Ministry had asked the Law Commission to examine all issues related to UCC in detail.

‘A healthy conversation’

“The Commission hopes to begin a healthy conversation about the viability of a UCC and will focus on family laws of all religions and the diversity of customary practices, to address social injustice rather than the plurality of laws…the Commission will consider the opinions of all stakeholders and the general public for ensuring that the norms of no one class, group of community dominate the tone or tenor of family law reforms,” it said.


In its questionnaire, the Commission has sought public opinion on issues like these: whether the UCC should include all of some of the subjects, including marriage, divorce, adoption, guardianship and child custody, maintenance, successions and inheritance; whether the existing personal laws and customary practices need codification; whether codification can ensure gender equality; and whether the UCC should be optional.

Insightful questions

Views on issues pertaining to the denial of maintenance or insufficient maintenance, compulsory registration of marriages, protection of couples who enter into inter-religion and inter-caste marriages, and the legal validity of the UCC vis-à-vis the individual right to freedom of religion, have been asked.

Responses on whether polygamy, polyandry and other customary practices like ‘ maitri-karaar ’ (friendship deed) should be banned or regulated, and whether the practice of triple talaq should be abolished in toto, retained, or retained with suitable amendments, have also been invited.

Besides, the Commission has asked if steps need to be taken to ensure that Hindu women are better able to exercise their right to property, which is often bequeathed to sons under customary practices; whether the two-year waiting period for finalising divorce violates Christian women’s right to equality; and whether all religious denominations should have common grounds for divorce.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...nion-on-uniform-civil-code/article9200040.ece

 

[Soumitra]

Modi is fulfilling his promises - economic (GST), Foreign Policy (improving India's standing with nations) Anti Terrorism (Surgical strikes) and Hindutva (UCC)

May be nect will be law commission on 370

 

[Bitter Melon]

Modi is fulfilling his promises - economic (GST), Foreign Policy (improving India's standing with nations) Anti Terrorism (Surgical strikes) and Hindutva (UCC)

May be nect will be law commission on 370

There was never any doubt about him keeping all his promises except to the libtards. He is the guy who talks of submitting his report card to the public.

 

[GoodKnight]

In fact people emigrate to the west precisely to escape the restrictions of religious laws and traditional societies.

So can a Hindu burn their dead next to the river, conduct a sradh cermony and consecrate the ashes in the river in any western Christian nation ?

 

[Fireurimagination]

Modi is fulfilling his promises - economic (GST), Foreign Policy (improving India's standing with nations) Anti Terrorism (Surgical strikes) and Hindutva (UCC)

May be nect will be law commission on 370

Dil Maange Ram Mandir

 

[mirage]

why i am seeing so much religion is indian politics these days

good evening sir , because people who made their carriers in various fields including political carriers are rattled and disheartened as they can see their 70 years hard work which was totally focused on being anti majority is getting sidelined and futile now , thanks to the first patriotic prime minister of Bharat Shri narendra modi and his government .

off topic : the so called 2002 gujarat riots was also a game plan of khangress alias indian national congress to malign the image of a patriotic Sanatan dharmi leader which will unearth too as time pass by , and the world will come to know the real face of the so called secular political parties and propagandists in Bharat .

 

[jha]

Not a good way to spend political capital. UCC does not impact BJP's voters much.

 

[Soumitra]

Dil Maange Ram Mandir

One step at a time. it is in Supreme Court. Let the court verdict come.

UCC then 370 then Ram Mandir

Not a good way to spend political capital. UCC does not impact BJP's voters much.

It does. UCC has been one of the core Hindutva agenda of BJP others being Article 370 and Ram Mandir. I now that you and me are OK with only development oriented policies but for many if BJP abandons these then it will be diluting the brand. You have to take everyone into account.

As for the opposers of UCC whatever BJP does they wont vote for it. So why not give cherry on the top of the development cake

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

UCC is desirable but how will you convince people of other religions to do away with their personal laws ?