Uttarakhand to implement Uniform Civil Code

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

He he he, indian Muslims are slowly becoming the 3rd class citizens of hindustan. Nobody gives a flying fuk about Muslims opinion in india.

 

[Goritoes]

As if you care about Indian Muslims. Anything to say about the rights of Uighur Muslims? For Indian Muslims, religion is not political. You don't see political war between Deobandi and Barelvi sect in India though both are places in India, but there is war between these sects among Pakistanis which I find odd.

Right, I don't care about them, but I also know they are toxic and venomous towards my country, As for Uighur Muslims yes they are having hard times as well, there are evidences of them been oppressed, and there are evidences of them not be oppressed. As for War between sects, Its more to do with Politics/agenda than it has anything to do with Islam itself.

 

[Jugger]

5000 years old way of life would be implemented on all residents of Uttarakhand

Every dalit groom would have to ask for at least 100 policemen to ride a horse on his wedding

UCC does not mean Hindu civil code is applied to all, nor does it mean Sharia would be applied to all. UCC means secular laws will be applied to everyone.
We should not apply any perticular religious laws on everyone as it's not ethical and just.
India with the implementation of UCC will become like other western countries in the matters of personal laws.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Right, I don't care about them, but I also know they are toxic and venomous towards my country, As for Uighur Muslims yes they are having hard times as well, there are evidences of them been oppressed, and there are evidences of them not be oppressed. As for War between sects, Its more to do with Politics/agenda than it has anything to do with Islam itself.

Right, so Indian Muslims must not keep it to toxic words, rather must rightfully join Indian armed forces in big numbers reflecting their percentage to defend India and themselves from a foreign enemy ideology that looks at them as a tool.

 

[Qutb-ud-din-Aibak]

Indians have no spine to Stand

They are civilians within a collective body.. You are calling for a civil war in India but there is better ways to call for it but by saying minority civilians within a country don't have spine is just retardation

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The Hindus are the people with the most inferiority complex in history.. the 1000 years muslim domination has done them extremely wrong and extremely robbed any self-confidence from them. Hence they are constantly hurting. They are emotional fireball constantly burning.. That is severe inferiority synedrome

 

[Fireurimagination]

@-=virus=- @Fireurimagination, please read the above post of mine since you have reacted to the OPer with a Like or posted in favor of him.

I am all for any personal or religious law be it of Hindus or Muslims, if it affects the nation negatively should being done away with. Personal laws of inheritance and divorce etc may affect individuals but rules like age for marriage, number of spouses one may have etc have a direct impact on the society and the nation. We need UCC which should be progressive and in-tune with today's time and not with happenings of 5000 or 1400 years ago. I believe UCC + population control bill will be good for the country. I understand this will affect muslims more probably but some people will have to be taken to 21st century, kicking and screaming so be it.

 

[jamahir]

India with the implementation of UCC will become like other western countries in the matters of personal laws.

Western countries derived some of their laws from Islamic laws so India with the implementation of the UCC will become more Islam-like. Please read post# 12.

Now, since you mention UCC what is your understanding of such an implementation ?

Lastly, UCC will be incomplete without adoption of Communist political and socio-economic systems.

I am all for any personal or religious law be it of Hindus or Muslims, if it affects the nation negatively should being done away with. Personal laws of inheritance and divorce etc may affect individuals but rules like age for marriage, number of spouses one may have etc have a direct impact on the society and the nation. We need UCC which should be progressive and in-tune with today's time and not with happenings of 5000 or 1400 years ago. I believe UCC + population control bill will be good for the country. I understand this will affect muslims more probably but some people will have to be taken to 21st century, kicking and screaming so be it.

1. You do not seem to have read my post but reacted cursorily. Read post# 12 again and then reply.

2. Take it from me, it will be Hindutvadis who will be affected more through UCC. It is Hindutvadis in 2022 still living in 1000 BC. Is it Muslims who are throwing stones at the wedding processions of Dalit grooms ? Hindutvadis to the Gulf and to Western countries and carry their anti-human caste system there too. Hindutvadis are so vacuous of brain that their eternal hero, our Dear Leader, said in some idiotic book of his that the lower caste Hindus clean the drains and the gutters because it gives them "Aadhyatmic anand" ( spiritual happiness ) so Dalit leader Jignesh Mevani asked reasonably then that why doesn't Modi get into the drains and gutters and get that anand himself.

 

[Fireurimagination]

1. You do not seem to have read my post but reacted cursorily. Read post# 12 again and then reply.

2. Take it from me, it will be Hindutvadis who will be affected more through UCC. It is Hindutvadis in 2022 still living in 1000 BC. Is it Muslims who are throwing stones at the wedding processions of Dalit grooms ? Hindutvadis to the Gulf and to Western countries and carry their anti-human caste system there too. Hindutvadis are so vacuous of brain that their eternal hero, our Dear Leader, said in some idiotic book of his that the lower caste Hindus clean the drains and the gutters because it gives them "Aadhyatmic anand" ( spiritual happiness ) so Dalit leader Jignesh Mevani asked reasonably then that why doesn't Modi get into the drains and gutters and get that anand himself.

If the Hindutavadis will be affected more, then so be it. But it is not the Hindutavadis who are making noise but the Muslims, isn't it? In fact Hindutavadis are all for UCC.

 

[Areesh]

UCC does not mean Hindu civil code is applied to all, nor does it mean Sharia would be applied to all. UCC means secular laws will be applied to everyone.
We should not apply any perticular religious laws on everyone as it's not ethical and just.
India with the implementation of UCC will become like other western countries in the matters of personal laws.

Secular code like anyone would be allowed to eat Beef burger whenever he or she wants to?

 

[jamahir]

If the Hindutavadis will be affected more, then so be it.

Good you think that.

But it is not the Hindutavadis who are making noise but the Muslims, isn't it? In fact Hindutavadis are all for UCC.

The Hindutvadis see the UCC as a weapon to hit the Muslims just like the Hindutvadis also see Israel as a proxy to hit the "Muslim" countries despite the Jews also being an Abrahamic people whom the Hindutvadis should hate, LOL. But let us first see how the Hindutvadi Uttarakhand government gives form to a UCC. I say this because for example the Hindutvadis were outraged by an ad that featured Alia Bhatt. The below article is by Hindutvadi media agency OpIndia :

Clothing brand Manyavar finds itself in the midst of a controversy after one of its recently released advertisements again painted Hindu rituals and customs as ‘regressive’. The advertisement featuring Alia Bhatt portrays ‘Kanyadaan’ as an oppressive practice and suggests ‘Kanyamaan’ as an alternative.

Manyavar claimed that it was “Promoting a progressive way of thinking, one tradition at a time!” Apparently, ‘Kanyamaan’ “gives a new spin to wedding rituals, highlighting the idea of respecting brides instead of ‘giving them away’.”

The campaign against the Hindu ritual of Kanyadaan has drawn sharp criticism on social media, with people incensed that time and again only Hindu customs and traditions are targeted while actual oppressive customs of other faiths get a free pass from brands.

People criticised the selectivity of brands repeatedly targeting only Hindu rituals while giving others a free pass.

Kanyadaan is “Patriarchal” but Giving the bride, Nikah-Mehr are all “Woke” !! Right @Manyavar_ ? pic.twitter.com/iLgyL89Kqd
— Yo Yo Funny Singh (@moronhumor) September 18, 2021

Woke Alia is back.#Aliabhatt #Kanyadaan pic.twitter.com/hOOJ4gparE
— The Jaipur Dialogues (@JaipurDialogues) September 18, 2021

Social media users rued the fact that not enough awareness is raised against practices such as Nikah-Halala and Triple Talaq but brands have launched a crusade against Hindu traditions.

Woke feminism by drugwood to reform Hinduism. But total silence on cult of Halala, TTT, Polygamy, Iddat, Child marriage that views women as property@aliaa08 is probably inspired by her women-empowerment champ daddy to give gyan on Kanya ka Maanpic.twitter.com/HwDUuvHlmN
— Gems of Bollywood (@GemsOfBollywood) September 18, 2021

Others pointed out the stupidity of the whole advertisement, especially at a time when Hindu women have made such great achievements in every walk of life.

Indian women aced every field of life from technology, medicine, sports to politics ..

Thousands stories can showcase their achievements and inspire those who are struggling yet ..

But content creators believe that role reversal in Cadbury ad or Kanyamaan is real empowerment ..
— The Brain Doctor (@DNeurosx) September 19, 2021

“Kanyadaan to kanyamaan because we are all sooo empowdered vroooo”

what a crazed world this is!

Rofl !!

Pagleton ki kami nahin hai iss sansar mein
Ek dhoondho jhund ke jhund milenge https://t.co/pqnV44MsU2
— Anshika Shukla (@anshikashukla_) September 18, 2021

Some people also highlighted the complicated history of the Bhatt family, of the time when Alia’s father, Mahesh Bhatt, said that he would have married Pooja Bhatt if she weren’t his daughter.

Alia Bhatt's father wanted to marry his own daughter and Alia's elder sister and she is here reforming kanyadan. pic.twitter.com/ptAcVjFTM7
— Yosha (@Blackdrug_) September 19, 2021

Needless to say, this isn’t the first time that brands have targeted a Hindu ritual for their marketing campaign. In recent times, many brands, most notably Tanishq, have received severe backlash for their misguided activism.

Furthermore, it is rather perplexing that a Bollywood actress was hired for the advertisement, since the industry is notorious for its exploitation and objectification of women. Brands have time and again targeted the Hindu faith as they are clearly too afraid to raise awareness about the problematic practices of other faiths.

It is clear that the Hindu community is not pleased with the singling out of their religion for overt attacks, as is evident with the backlash against Manyavar. Furthermore, the premise of the whole ad is bizarre, given that the brand is perfectly aware that what they are suggesting is completely cynical and makes no sense at all.

They are completely aware that nobody will change ancient customs based on the recommendation of a clothing brand and yet, they do not really care as it is only about a marketing gimmick and nothing else. Their silence over customs of other faiths that actually harm women does end up revealing a lot about their misguided moral compass.

Now, do you think this Uttarakhand UCC will include compulsory Islam-like court marriage with an ideal attendance of just five people including the bride and groom, the person officiating and two witnesses, and the groom agreeing to a pre-nuptial agreement for divorce settlement money or property and maintenance amount in case of divorce ? If fact will the Hindutvadis agree to the provision of divorce rights for the female ?

 

[lightoftruth]

It is not visible from the behavior of most of today's Indian Muslims but that 1400-year-old "Arabic way of life in a desert" contributed to French and English marriage law 200 years ago which contributed to reform in your "eternal" Sanatan Dharm :

Read the rest of that thread OP and the discussion there.

And you are being happy with Uttarkhand CM's announcement but you have to think how happy or unhappy the Hindutavadis will be when a true Uniform Civil Code is implemented because it will abolish many of the Hindutvadis propagated beliefs. For example here are some of Yogi Adityanath's misogynist and suffocating views about women :


And this anti-human fellow is being promoted as the next Prime Minister ? So the females who voted for him in Uttar Pradesh and trolled for him on the internet, what do they think of these views of him about them ?

And if that 1400-year-old "Arabic way of life in a desert" had been used in India in other aspects of socio-economics, most importantly the prohibition of interest on loans and abolishment on stock trading, then those 350,000+ Indian farmers who suicided just between 1995 and 2015, they would still be alive.

Your Arabic way of life has contributed much more in day 2 days life than just divorce, lets give credit where its due be it shariah courts, jizyah etc they all have contributed a lot.

We have a running UCC in goa ,Hindutvadis are ok with it but Islamists like you still cry about it.

I like that you still have the decency to hide being the socialist agenda to forward your islamo-facsist views like Islamic banking etc.

 

[Rollno21]

Secular code like anyone would be allowed to eat Beef burger whenever he or she wants to?

Why just beef even pork should be available. Some states have banned cow meat ,but in many states they are available ,you can order beef dishes online and they deliver it to you with in 30 to 40 mins.

 

[Wesen Hunter]

UK, US all have uniform civil codes.
If Muslims can live there without any issue, why not in India?.

 

[Areesh]

Why just beef even pork should be available. Some states have banned cow meat ,but in many states they are available ,you can order beef dishes online and they deliver it to you with in 30 to 40 mins.

Yes anything should be available for anyone

Slaughter of cows should be allowed too along with all other animals

Hopefully "secular" government of Uttarakhand would allow it

 

[jamahir]

Your Arabic way of life has contributed much more in day 2 days life than just divorce, lets give credit where its due be it shariah courts, jizyah etc they all have contributed a lot.

Sharia in its actual meaning is simply Islamic law from the Quran and of the supposed practices of Islam's early practitioners.

Jizya has to be seen in context of the time that Islam came about. Islam brought many socio-economic and political progressive ideas but it also included things that were about conduct of Muslim leaders with those who chose to remain non-Muslim and one incorrect thing was Jizya. However even that wasn't an oppressive thing. I quote the wiki for that word :

Muslim jurists required adult, free, sane males among the dhimma community to pay the jizya, while exempting women, children, elders, handicapped, the ill, the insane, monks, hermits, slaves, and musta'mins—non-Muslim foreigners who only temporarily reside in Muslim lands. Dhimmis who chose to join military service were also exempted from payment, as were those who could not afford to pay. According to Islamic law, elders, handicapped etc. must be given pensions, and they must not go into begging.

However, in modern Muslim-majority societies do you find Jizya imposed on resident Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and others ? Jizya has been discarded. And should this take away the many progressive ideas that Islam has even now when compared to the religious laws of other religions ?

We have a running UCC in goa ,Hindutvadis are ok with it but Islamists like you still cry about it.

Can you describe to me the Goan UCC in simple words ?

I like you still have the decency to hide being the socialist agenda to forward your islamo-facsist views like Islamic banking etc.

LOL, what is fascist about desiring to have a banking system which is not based on interest and prohibits inclusion of speculation ? Having such a system will bring harmony. Did you find 350,000+ farmers in Libyan Jamahiriya suiciding for socio-economic reasons just between 20 years like they did in India ?

But I go further. In this thread of mine I propose a very simple socio-economic system that furthers Islamic economics and is almost Communist ( almost because it has a money system but an evolved one ) and the system includes banking.

UK, US all have uniform civil codes.
If Muslims can live there without any issue, why not in India?.

Which Muslims in India have an issue ?