Mike Pompeo phones COAS Qamar Bajwa, talks about Gen Soleimani’s killing

[Areesh]

Just a hunch

LOL

 

[Haris Ali2140]

US don't need our bases to hit targets in Iran, they will need airspace and ground facilities for spec ops units most probably.

Which GCC will take care of.

 

[pkd]

Pakistan and Iran were the only two countries that came out relatively unscathed from the past 30 years of conflict in middle east and Afghanistan, Iran infact much stronger in the middle east.
Iran tried the beaten path of rubbing shoulders with the lobby, trying to be their aide in the greater scheme of things , cut deals to limit its nuclear program etc but all of this doesn't have seemed to cut it.

Similarly numerous challenges were thrown at Pakistan which were none of its doing (9/11 (saudi highjackers with Al-qaida (afghanistan), TTP, 2008 India, PTM and what not),) but it came up to the task. Finally they tested it again with India on 27 Feb, Pakistan gave a bloody nose to the Safrandos.

Things are back to square again and they have now decided to try their luck somewhere else, So it is Iran time for now.

 

[pakpride00090]

You would need a conventional and unconventional deterrent.

A conventional deterrent would be necessary to eliminate smaller scale military strikes such as the Suleimani one or the ones the Indians attempted in Balakot. That doesn't mean that conventional capabilities should be strong enough to comprehensively defeat the aggressor in a full fledged war, just strong enough to make limited conventional aggression expensive enough to be a deterrent.

Yes , that can be achieved only if the conflict is localized and short lived. If you are talking about a prolonged conflict where one side clearly has the edge then it becomes very difficult for weaker power to hold much longer unless they have something big to rely on.
Remember , Indians haven't really mustered the courage to invade Kashmir full-fledged. I wonder , how long we would be able to hold the territory if total war is declared.
To be honest , I believe , even with the nukes . India will win. Our nukes are too few in number and not that powerful enough to completely decimate India.
I frequently read articles written by Indian intellectuals that hold/had held powerful positions and some of them believe that even with full Pakistani nuke retaliation , India will win because of nuclear limitations I just talked about. Yes the cost will be great for India but still there would be enough India to live on.

Unless we have 300+ , thermonuclear war heads. Indians will keep having these thoughts. And as long as Indians will have such ideas, I would not consider ourselves fully secure.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Question is what will Pakistan do if Iran hit US assets in saudia Arabia?

The US/NATO and Saudis have more than enough military capability to deal with such a scenario without Pakistani assistance.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Yes , that can be achieved only if the conflict is localized and short lived. If you are talking about a prolonged conflict where one side clearly has the edge then it becomes very difficult for weaker power to hold much longer unless they have something big to rely on.
Remember , Indians haven't really mustered the courage to invade Kashmir full-fledged. I wonder , how long we would be able to hold the territory if total war is declared.
To be honest , I believe , even with the nukes . India will win. Our nukes are too few in number and not that powerful enough to completely decimate India.
I frequently read articles written by Indian intellectuals that hold/had held powerful positions and some of them believe that even with full Pakistani nuke retaliation , India will win because of nuclear limitations I just talked about. Yes the cost will be great for India but still there would be enough India to live on.

Unless we have 300+ , thermonuclear war heads. Indians will keep having these thoughts. And as long as Indians will have such ideas, I would not consider ourselves fully secure.

Meh. Nuclear fallout will ensure life doesn't go on as usual for the next 100+ years. No crops, contaminated water means population fighting within itself for resources. Civil war ensues and trims what's left of the healthy population. Not a win scenario in any case.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Shouldn't pick his call or should have said "aap ka motlaba no is waqt band hai barai mehrbani thori der baad call Karen"
He is calling because he wants pakistan to help them in the upcoming war with Iran but hell no we have learned our lessons well in Afghanistan.
Let me assure you USA is not in a position to force or intimidate pakistan to help them fighting Iran.

Lend your ears to all, voice to none....

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yes , that can be achieved only if the conflict is localized and short lived. If you are talking about a prolonged conflict where one side clearly has the edge then it becomes very difficult for weaker power to hold much longer unless they have something big to rely on.
Remember , Indians haven't really mustered the courage to invade Kashmir full-fledged. I wonder , how long we would be able to hold the territory if total war is declared.
To be honest , I believe , even with the nukes . India will win. Our nukes are too few in number and not that powerful enough to completely decimate India.
I frequently read articles written by Indian intellectuals that hold/had held powerful positions and some of them believe that even with full Pakistani nuke retaliation , India will win because of nuclear limitations I just talked about. Yes the cost will be great for India but still there would be enough India to live on.

Unless we have 300+ , thermonuclear war heads. Indians will keep having these thoughts. And as long as Indians will have such ideas, I would not consider ourselves fully secure.

What I proposed was a conventional deterrent that would make a limited military conflict expensive for the aggressor - the deterrent to a full fledged war is the war itself, unless you're talking about a David & Goliath mismatch along the lines of US vs Iraq, US vs Afghanistan or US vs Iran. India in no way enjoys the kind of military superiority over Pakistan that the US enjoys over almost every country in the world. This means that a conventional conflict will be extremely expensive for India even if India ends up being the victor at the end. That pain, suffering and cost is what will deter India from taking the risk of initiating a full fledged war with Pakistan (as long as extremist ideologues in the BJP don't overrule the relatively saner elements).

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes , that can be achieved only if the conflict is localized and short lived. If you are talking about a prolonged conflict where one side clearly has the edge then it becomes very difficult for weaker power to hold much longer unless they have something big to rely on.
Remember , Indians haven't really mustered the courage to invade Kashmir full-fledged. I wonder , how long we would be able to hold the territory if total war is declared.
To be honest , I believe , even with the nukes . India will win. Our nukes are too few in number and not that powerful enough to completely decimate India.
I frequently read articles written by Indian intellectuals that hold/had held powerful positions and some of them believe that even with full Pakistani nuke retaliation , India will win because of nuclear limitations I just talked about. Yes the cost will be great for India but still there would be enough India to live on.

Unless we have 300+ , thermonuclear war heads. Indians will keep having these thoughts. And as long as Indians will have such ideas, I would not consider ourselves fully secure.

FACT is, NO-ONE knows Pakistan's TRUE nuclear capabilities or our REAL number of nukes. These SAME indian intellectuals also claimed that india would become a superpower by 2020, Pakistan will NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons states, the iaf could wipe out the PAF in under 10 mins etc. FACT is, Pakistan has MORE than enough nukes to completely annihilate india and wipe it off the face of the earth. The indian military high command know this fact very well. If we didn't, india would have attacked by now. indian so called "intelluctuals" are world renowned for making retarded and delusional claims. Ever wondered why over 1.4 billion indians have NEVER EVER invented or created ANY advanced sciences or technologies like the White and Far Eastern races have done?

However, I agree that for good measure and to deter other potential enemies, we need to have a minimum of 500 high yield nukes/H-bombs.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

FACT is, NO-ONE knows Pakistan's TRUE nuclear capabilities or our REAL number of nukes. These SAME indian intellectuals also claimed that india would become a superpower by 2020, Pakistan will NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons states, the iaf could wipe out the PAF in under 10 mins etc. FACT is, Pakistan has MORE than enough nukes to completely annihilate india and wipe it off the face of the earth. The indian military high command know this fact very well. If we didn't, india would have attacked by now. indian so called "intelluctuals" are world renowned for making retarded and delusional claims. Ever wondered why over 1.4 billion indians have NEVER EVER invented or created ANY advanced sciences or technologies like the White and Far Eastern races have done?

However, I agree that for good measure and to deter other potential enemies, we need to have a minimum of 500 high yield nukes/H-bombs.

“We, as a nation of a billion people, think like that of a million people” - Indian ex President Abdul Kalam

One nuke at the Pak hand = India feels like 1K nukes at the Pak hand

One IAF pilot shot down = IAF feels like 1K pilots shot down

 

[R Wing]

"YES, MASTER..."

A decade later, I'm sure we'll get a book claiming that there was "no choice" since the US threatened to bomb us into the stone age (again.)

 

[SilentAssassin]

Why would Pakistan be warned ? This General once Threat Pakistan remember , I don't like the fact US killed him to deliver a message but I think US calling Pakistan is just an attempt to keep Pakistan in fold, cause if things escalate to a war America will once again need Pakistan ( Most likely for conducting Air Strikes ) .

I don't think so in the case of War America will need Pakistan for conducting airstrikes in Iran. They already have assets and military bases in Sudia, UAE, Qatar, Syria, Iraq and as well as Aircraft Career in the Arabian Gulf. And in case it needed Pakistan for this purpose, Pak is never ever gonna do that in any case.

 

[jericho]

Of course in times like this the charade fades, and Pompeo talks to the primary authority in Pakistan, the COAS and not the PM.

Pompeo called the following people about the same topic he called COAS

Yang Jiechi (Foreign Affairs, China)
Dominic Raab (Secretary of State, UK)
Heiko Maas (Minister of Foreign Affairs, German)
Jean-Yves Le Drian (Minister of Foreign Affairs, France)
Sergei Lavrov (Foreign Minister, Russia)

By your logic, all these people (not Putin and not Xi) are the authority in their countries too.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Very well put.

Very very high stake cards are being put on table!!! But, the night is getting shorter and shorter....

Israel and US neocons and zionists think time for Meschiach is nigh and wars are needed to once again re shape maps of middle east to prepare for Meschiach's coming.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Looks like the US policymakers want to limit OBOR to only CPEC in this part of the world!! Now, China needs to show all her “gimmicks” inside CPEC...