MAKE IN INDIA: L&T OUT GUNS GLOBAL RIVALS TO BAG RS 5,000-CRORE INDIAN ARMY DEAL

[Ind4Ever]

Who wins you decide @Zarvan

K9 Thunder

K9 Thunder
Type Self-propelled artillery
Place of origin South Korea
Service history
In service 1999 - present
Used by See Operators
Production history
Designer Samsung Techwin,ADD
Designed 1989–1998
Manufacturer Samsung Techwin
Unit cost $3.1 million
Produced 1999–present
Variants K10, T-155 'Firtina' (Storm)
Specifications
Weight 47 tonnes (K9)
Length 12 m
Width 3.4 m
Height 2.73 m
Crew 5 (Commander, Driver, Gunner, 2 Loaders)
Maximum firing range 30,000 m (HE)
38,000 m (DP-ICM base bleed)
41,600 m (Extended range full-bore-base)
52-56,000 m (BB+RAP extended range)
Main
armament
52 cal (155mm howitzer)
Secondary
armament
12.7 mm (.50 caliber) K6 HMG
Engine MTU MT 881 Ka-500 8-cylinder water-cooled diesel
1000 hp
Power/weight 21 hp/ton
Transmission S&T Dynamics X1100-5A3
Suspension hydropneumatic
Operational
range
480 km
Speed 67 km/h

M109 Howitzer

Canadian M109
Type Self-propelled artillery
Place of origin United States
Specifications
Weight 27.5 tons
Length 30 ft (9.1 m)
Width 10 ft 4 in (3.15 m)
Height 10 ft 8 in (3.25 m)
Crew 6 (2 Loaders, Gunner, Assistant Gunner, Commander, Driver)
Shell separate loading, bagged charge
Caliber 155 mm L/39 caliber[1]
Breech interrupted screw
Traverse 360°
Rate of fire Maximum: 6 rpm
Sustained: 3 rpm
Effective firing range Conventional: 18 km (11 mi)
RAP: 30 km (19 mi)
Main
armament
M126 155 mm Howitzer
Secondary
armament
.50 caliber (12.7 mm) M2 machine gun
Engine Detroit Diesel 8V71T
450 hp (335.56 kW)
Power/weight 18.7 hp/t
Suspension torsion-bar
Operational
range
216 mi (350 km)
Speed 35 mph (56 km/h)

K9 Thunder all the way !!! STRONG 40 T !!! Fast 67 km/h !!! QUICK 6 Rounds per minute !!! Long reach 40 -56 KM vs 18-30 KM of M109 !!!

 

[ni8mare]

No what I am telling you T-155 of Turkey and K-9 of south korea are same thing.

so how does counter IA....if T-155=k9...........Those are in turkish army what it have to do with PA

And how does that 'answer' india?You think turkey will gift its newly bought guns to pak so it can counter this purchase from IA?

@Zarvan dont even know what he is talking about according to him M-109 (america system)= K9 a SK system

Turkish Artillery Gun same as K-9 as for features of M-109 A told in article they are wrong

Make in India: L&T outguns global rivals to bag Rs 5,000-crore Indian Army deal | Page 2

here he has now changed it to T-155 after understanding that M-109=/=K9..

 

[Ind4Ever]

L & T can also export it to friendly countries like Afghanistan,Vietnam and Iran.

of course

so how does counter IA....if T-155=k9...........Those are in turkish army what it have to do with PA

@Zarvan dont even know what he is talking about according to him M-109 (america system)= K9 a SK system




Make in India: L&T outguns global rivals to bag Rs 5,000-crore Indian Army deal | Page 2

here he has now changed it to T-155 after understanding that M-109=/=K9..

He is telling turkey will attack India

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

@Horus @fatman17 @kaonalpha and Is first post right about range and other features and @Ind4Ever The only funny thing is that even if the points and things told in article are true India should remember that Turkey builds exactly same Gun with different name. So answering India won't be much of an issue although I think the points in Article about ranger and other things are wrong.

Oh so scary... Pak operates over 500 M-109A5.. It's range is almost 40 kn with BB Shells and around 30 without em...


Apart from that Pak operates other M series 203s... 92+ SH-1s... And local production of Panter Howitzers (Turks are developing a wheeled version of it Aswell)...

As for Turkish Fritna.. It's based on the K-9 but uses TIrish systems.. Making it a we bit better than older K-9s...

If needed Pak can get more A5s.. Or PlZ45s or Turkish guns.

 

[Zarvan]

And how does that 'answer' india?You think turkey will gift its newly bought guns to pak so it can counter this purchase from IA?

We can buy several from Turkey but won't need to because M-109 A is more than enough and also features of M-109 A given in original post are way wrong

Who wins you decide @Zarvan

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K9 Thunder

K9 Thunder
Type Self-propelled artillery
Place of origin South Korea
Service history
In service 1999 - present
Used by See Operators
Production history
Designer Samsung Techwin,ADD
Designed 1989–1998
Manufacturer Samsung Techwin
Unit cost $3.1 million
Produced 1999–present
Variants K10, T-155 'Firtina' (Storm)
Specifications
Weight 47 tonnes (K9)
Length 12 m
Width 3.4 m
Height 2.73 m
Crew 5 (Commander, Driver, Gunner, 2 Loaders)
Maximum firing range 30,000 m (HE)
38,000 m (DP-ICM base bleed)
41,600 m (Extended range full-bore-base)
52-56,000 m (BB+RAP extended range)
Main
armament
52 cal (155mm howitzer)
Secondary
armament
12.7 mm (.50 caliber) K6 HMG
Engine MTU MT 881 Ka-500 8-cylinder water-cooled diesel
1000 hp
Power/weight 21 hp/ton
Transmission S&T Dynamics X1100-5A3
Suspension hydropneumatic
Operational
range
480 km
Speed 67 km/h

M109 Howitzer

Canadian M109
Type Self-propelled artillery
Place of origin United States
Specifications
Weight 27.5 tons
Length 30 ft (9.1 m)
Width 10 ft 4 in (3.15 m)
Height 10 ft 8 in (3.25 m)
Crew 6 (2 Loaders, Gunner, Assistant Gunner, Commander, Driver)
Shell separate loading, bagged charge
Caliber 155 mm L/39 caliber[1]
Breech interrupted screw
Traverse 360°
Rate of fire Maximum: 6 rpm
Sustained: 3 rpm
Effective firing range Conventional: 18 km (11 mi)
RAP: 30 km (19 mi)
Main
armament
M126 155 mm Howitzer
Secondary
armament
.50 caliber (12.7 mm) M2 machine gun
Engine Detroit Diesel 8V71T
450 hp (335.56 kW)
Power/weight 18.7 hp/t
Suspension torsion-bar
Operational
range
216 mi (350 km)
Speed 35 mph (56 km/h)

K9 Thunder all the way !!! STRONG 40 T !!! Fast 67 km/h !!! QUICK 6 Rounds per minute !!! Long reach 40 -56 KM vs 18-30 KM of M109 !!!

Dude features are not correct which are given are not correct

 

[Ind4Ever]

We can buy several from Turkey but won't need to because M-109 A is more than enough and also features of M-109 A given in original post are way wrong


Dude features are not correct which are given are not correct

OK GIVE CORRECT ONE !!!

 

[Whazzup]

There's already a thread running why open multiple threads?

Make in India: L&T outguns global rivals to bag Rs 5,000-crore Indian Army deal

@Icarus @waz @Slav Defence can someone merge it ?

 

[Zarvan]

OK GIVE CORRECT ONE !!!

Read @DESERT FIGHTER post he answered it

OK GIVE CORRECT ONE !!!

Oh so scary... Pak operates over 500 M-109A5.. It's range is almost 40 kn with BB Shells and around 30 without em...


Apart from that Pak operates other M series 203s... 92+ SH-1s... And local production of Panter Howitzers (Turks are developing a wheeled version of it Aswell)...

As for Turkish Fritna.. It's based on the K-9 but uses TIrish systems.. Making it a we bit better than older K-9s...

If needed Pak can get more A5s.. Or PlZ45s or Turkish guns.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Oh so scary... Pak operates over 500 M-109A5.. It's range is almost 40 kn with BB Shells and around 30 without em...


Apart from that Pak operates other M series 203s... 92+ SH-1s... And local production of Panter Howitzers (Turks are developing a wheeled version of it Aswell)...

As for Turkish Fritna.. It's based on the K-9 but uses TIrish systems.. Making it a we bit better than older K-9s...

If needed Pak can get more A5s.. Or PlZ45s or Turkish guns.

YOUR BB + RAP EXTENDED RAGE IS 30 KM . CONVENTIONAL 18 KM VS 52-56 KM RANGE OF K9BB + RAP

 

[GURU DUTT]

YOUR BB + RAP EXTENDED RAGE IS 30 KM . CONVENTIONAL 18 KM VS 52-56 KM RANGE OF K9BB + RAP

in short its all about the capabilty to kill and neutralise the threats way before they are in a position to harm you and here K9 scores way above what M-109 does

 

[Ind4Ever]

Read @DESERT FIGHTER post he answered it



Oh so scary... Pak operates over 500 M-109A5.. It's range is almost 40 kn with BB Shells and around 30 without em...


Apart from that Pak operates other M series 203s... 92+ SH-1s... And local production of Panter Howitzers (Turks are developing a wheeled version of it Aswell)...

As for Turkish Fritna.. It's based on the K-9 but uses TIrish systems.. Making it a we bit better than older K-9s...

If needed Pak can get more A5s.. Or PlZ45s or Turkish guns.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT

in short its all about the capabilty to kill and neutralise the threats way before they are in a position to harm you and here K9 scores way above what M-109 does

Yes ... Its quick and has longer range than M109 . What else a howitzer need ? K9 will be out of their reach which means more sustainable firepower and bombardment .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

YOUR BB + RAP EXTENDED RAGE IS 30 KM . CONVENTIONAL 18 KM VS 52-56 KM RANGE OF K9BB + RAP

Lmao A5/A5 use new barrels that rctebded the range of M109 by 25% .. That's 30,000 meters... Add Base bleed or asisted round that's more than you can bargain for.

You shouldn't talk about the M-109A5s with me... Specially me..

 

[Ind4Ever]

There's already a thread running why open multiple threads?

Make in India: L&T outguns global rivals to bag Rs 5,000-crore Indian Army deal

@Icarus @waz @Slav Defence can someone merge it ?

do merge it . thanks

Lmao A5/A5 use new barrels that rctebded the range of M109 by 25% .. That's 30,000 meters... Add Base bleed or asisted round that's more than you can bargain for.

You shouldn't talk about the M-109A5s with me... Specially me..

No problem .Give me some source ? I like to correct it

 

[airmarshal]

What is L&T? Is it some Indian company that will design a gun to Indian Army specifications?

If thats the case, Pakistan need not worry for next 50 years. Going by your track record of Arjun and Tejas.

 

[NKVD]

What is L&T? Is it some Indian company that will design a gun to Indian Army specifications?

If thats the case, Pakistan need not worry for next 50 years. Going by your track record of Arjun and Tejas.

Madrasa education has ruined you Kid