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MAKE IN INDIA: L&T OUT GUNS GLOBAL RIVALS TO BAG RS 5,000-CRORE INDIAN ARMY DEAL

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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Chutiye try reading the replacement/modernisation part ...
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December 28, 2005: Pakistan is buying 115 used 155mm self-propelled howitzers from the United States. Each of the M109A5 vehicles will cost about $480,000. This is less than a third of what a late model vehicle like the M109A5 would cost brand new. This is not the latest version of the M109, that would be the M109A6 (while has lots of computers and better communications.). But the A5 version has the same long range firing capabilities as the A6 (30 kilometers). Pakistan already has 150 older (1970s vintage) M109A2s. The M109A5 upgrades came right at the end of the Cold War (late 1980s.) Pakistan may have been able to get a cheaper, equivalent system from Russia (the 2S3) or China, but getting the additional M109A5s makes it easier to upgrade the older M109A2s. That gives them an upgrade to the very successful M109A6, which uses GPS and computers to increase the speed and accuracy of the guns. Only about ten percent of the 9500 M109s ever built have been upgraded to the M109A6 standard, but this has produced one of the top self-propelled artillery systems in the world. It would cost about half a million dollars each to upgrade the M109A2s(1970s vintage) to the A6 standard, assuming most of the work was done in Pakistan, with some components manufactured there.


NAILED IT ?:whistle:
 
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NKVD said:
Kake 30 000 m is equal to 30 Km
40 000 m equal to 40 km
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Mera putar ... Use you "eyeej" .. I didn't claim 40 Km + range without BB shells .. Now instead of showing what a moron you are better view my posts on the previous page.. N piss off.
 
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Says the clown...


115+76 in recent deals.


300+ in service since the last 2 decades...
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December 28, 2005: Pakistan is buying 115 used 155mm self-propelled howitzers from the United States. Each of the M109A5 vehicles will cost about $480,000. This is less than a third of what a late model vehicle like the M109A5 would cost brand new. This is not the latest version of the M109, that would be the M109A6 (while has lots of computers and better communications.). But the A5 version has the same long range firing capabilities as the A6 (30 kilometers). Pakistan already has 150 older (1970s vintage) M109A2s. The M109A5 upgrades came right at the end of the Cold War (late 1980s.) Pakistan may have been able to get a cheaper, equivalent system from Russia (the 2S3) or China, but getting the additional M109A5s makes it easier to upgrade the older M109A2s. That gives them an upgrade to the very successful M109A6, which uses GPS and computers to increase the speed and accuracy of the guns. Only about ten percent of the 9500 M109s ever built have been upgraded to the M109A6 standard, but this has produced one of the top self-propelled artillery systems in the world. It would cost about half a million dollars each to upgrade the M109A2s(1970s vintage) to the A6 standard, assuming most of the work was done in Pakistan, with some components manufactured there.

NAILED IT ?:whistle:

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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Mera putar ... Use you "eyeej" .. I didn't claim 40 Km + range without BB shells .. Now instead of showing what a moron you are better view my posts on the previous page.. N piss off.
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lol ????Then whats the problem ?
 
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Mera putar ... Use you "eyeej" .. I didn't claim 40 Km + range without BB shells .. Now instead of showing what a moron you are better view my posts on the previous page.. N piss off.
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DUDE for the last time . this 30 KM is with RAP without RAP its 22 Km for A5/A6 and 18 for A3/A4 ...

for the love of god accept your mistake and leave it :flame:
 
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Ind4Ever said:
December 28, 2005: Pakistan is buying 115 used 155mm self-propelled howitzers from the United States. Each of the M109A5 vehicles will cost about $480,000. This is less than a third of what a late model vehicle like the M109A5 would cost brand new. This is not the latest version of the M109, that would be the M109A6 (while has lots of computers and better communications.). But the A5 version has the same long range firing capabilities as the A6 (30 kilometers). Pakistan already has 150 older (1970s vintage) M109A2s. The M109A5 upgrades came right at the end of the Cold War (late 1980s.) Pakistan may have been able to get a cheaper, equivalent system from Russia (the 2S3) or China, but getting the additional M109A5s makes it easier to upgrade the older M109A2s. That gives them an upgrade to the very successful M109A6, which uses GPS and computers to increase the speed and accuracy of the guns. Only about ten percent of the 9500 M109s ever built have been upgraded to the M109A6 standard, but this has produced one of the top self-propelled artillery systems in the world. It would cost about half a million dollars each to upgrade the M109A2s(1970s vintage) to the A6 standard, assuming most of the work was done in Pakistan, with some components manufactured there.

NAILED IT ?:whistle:

Source: MAKE IN INDIA: L&T OUT GUNS GLOBAL RIVALS TO BAG RS 5,000-CRORE INDIAN ARMY DEAL | Page 3


lol ????Then whats the problem ?
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Completely... Now sit on it.
 
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Ind4Ever said:
dude are u serious ?

from your links : The M109A2, M109A3 and M109A4 howitzers used the M185 cannon with a range of 23,500 meters. The range was increased to 30,000 meters with the M109A5 and M109A6 by replacement of the M185 23 caliber long barrel with the M284 cannon 39-caliber barrel. (M-109 155mm Self-propelled Howitzer


The M109A2/A3/A4 howitzers uses M185 cannon and achieves a range of 23,500 meters. The replacement of the 23 caliber long barrel with the M284 cannon 39-caliber barrel on the M109A5/A6 increased the range capability to 30,00 meters.
Maximum Range (M109A2/M109A3/M109A4)..........................18,000m
....................................................................................................RAP 23,500m
Maximum Range (M109A5).........................................................22,000m
....................................................................................................RAP 30,000m
M109 155mm SP Howitzer

a new M284 cannon and a new M182 gun mount. These improvements provide the M109A5 with greater range and allow for sustained fire for prolonged periods of time.The M109A5, 155mm SP medium howitzer is a vehicle that provides armored combat support, is air transportable, internally loaded, and has excellent ground mobility. The M109A5's main armament is the 39-caliber, M284 cannon, which has a maximum range of 23,500 meters with unassisted projectiles and 30,000 meters with Rocket Assisted Projectiles (RAP Rounds). M109A5 155mm SP Howitzer

The replacement of the 23 caliber long barrel with the M284 cannon 39-caliber barrel on the M109A5/A6 increased the range capability to 30,000 meters.
M109 - Danish Army Vehicles Homepage


:enjoy::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: 30.000 M = 30 KM your A5 range !!! Now get an umbvrella as K9 gonna rain few shells while parked at 50 km !!!:cry::cry::cry: How bad:dance3:
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Yeah .. M284s range is 23 km I agree.
 
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Yeah .. M284s range is 23 km I agree.
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LOL thats from your own links ...

DESERT FIGHTER said:
Chutiye try reading the replacement/modernisation part ...
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
"Hehehe"

M109 - Danish Army Vehicles Homepage

M109 155mm SP Howitzer

M109A5 155mm SP Howitzer

M-109 155mm Self-propelled Howitzer

@NKVD. Childish as usual...
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Oh so scary... Pak operates over 500 M-109A5.. It's range is almost 40 kn with BB Shells and around 30 without em...


Apart from that Pak operates other M series 203s... 92+ SH-1s... And local production of Panter Howitzers (Turks are developing a wheeled version of it Aswell)...

As for Turkish Fritna.. It's based on the K-9 but uses TIrish systems.. Making it a we bit better than older K-9s...

If needed Pak can get more A5s.. Or PlZ45s or Turkish guns.
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Lmao A5/A5 use new barrels that rctebded the range of M109 by 25% .. That's 30,000 meters... Add Base bleed or asisted round that's more than you can bargain for.

You shouldn't talk about the M-109A5s with me... Specially me..:lol:
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Chutiye try reading the replacement/modernisation part ...
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Over 500 M109A5s... !

It's unfortunate you search wiki for data.

Apart from the 115.. Over 76 landed a few months back... We had hundreds in the inventory before that too,..
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And do u remember this post of urs ?
DESERT FIGHTER said:
"Hehehe"

M109 - Danish Army Vehicles Homepage

M109 155mm SP Howitzer

M109A5 155mm SP Howitzer

M-109 155mm Self-propelled Howitzer

@NKVD. Childish as usual...
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Correct me if I'm wrong here Guns vs Guns doesn't means much anyways u counter them with Airstrikes. :tup:

But yeah we really need more of them.
 
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