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[The SC]

Problem is Americans seem less willing to allow BVR integration, but French allowed India to integrate Astra missile on Mirage-2000.

Bro..When you make your own.. they will allow you to integrate it ..

 

[Philip the Arab]

Bro..When you make your own.. they will allow you to integrate it ..

Interesting, a BVR missile could serve as a Medium and short range air defense with and without a booster.

You could just develop them simultaneously, and save a lot of time and money.

The CEO of Halcon already said that Skyknight would not be the last surface to air missile developed in the UAE.

 

[Wilhelm II]

Eh, I guess it depends on their goals most of the weapons they develop are broadly similar to what Western countries have developed recently and I think they are focusing on more advanced concepts in the future.

I wouldn't be suprised if some of the stuff under development are never exhibited long range Ballistic missiles.

What specifically do you want to be developed?

I want to see longest range for weapons working on new style weapons railguns lasers and at all secretly nuclear weapons
I want to see UAE weapons in top not comparable with normal weapons

South African Denel Dynamics Marlin BVR concept that never reached production

I hope UAE will develop the concept further to upgrade Mirage 2000s in service.

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Any information of that?

 

[Philip the Arab]

I want to see longest range for weapons working on new style weapons railguns lasers and at all secretly nuclear weapons
I want to see UAE weapons in top not comparable with normal weapons

Any information of that?

The Denel Dynamics Marlin missile is at an advanced stage of development, with test flights of the 100 km range radar-guided weapon having already been carried out.

Marlin is a radar-guided beyond visual range (BVR) air-to-air missile technology demonstrator and the intention is to also use Marlin technology in an all-weather surface-to-air version.

It is being developed by Denel Dynamics under an Armscor/Department of Defence technology demonstrator contract.

According to Ivan Gibbons, Chief systems engineer at Denel Dynamics, various tests have been carried out, such as rocket motor firings and firing of a largely complete missile from the Denel Overberg Test Range two years ago using a ground-mounted launcher to test the missile’s manoeuvrability and flight characteristics. The missile has also been fitted to a pod mounted on a South African Air Force (SAAF) Gripen fighter. Denel Dynamics is now heading towards a guided flight test that will use the radar seeker to shoot down a target drone.

Gibbons, speaking at a presentation organised by the Aeronautical Society of South Africa (AeSSA), explained that the Marlin uses a dual pulse rocket motor for extended range (two fuel chambers and one exhaust nozzle). For long range engagements the first pulse fires and the missile glides towards its target before the second pulse fires at a later point in time. For shorter engagements, both pulses can be fired almost simultaneously. Top speed could be around Mach 4. Flight control is by servo motor controlled fins.

Gibbons said there were many challenging issues to be dealt with when designing a missile like Marlin, such as high G loads (at least 30 Gs), vibration on the aircraft, electromagnetic interference, the effects of flying through rain, and thermal shock. As an example the missile has to operate in -50 degree Celsius temperatures while the leading edges of the missile can reach up to 900 degrees Celsius once launche

Denel Dynamics is working with Armscor on Marlin, as well as other entities like Saab – the latter is especially important since the Marlin is being fitted to the Gripen. The Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) did wind tunnel testing of the missile while the Test Flight and Development Centre (TFDC) and Denel Overberg Test Range have been used for test firings. Another important partner is Rheinmetall Denel Munition (RDM), which provided the rocket motor.

Although the Marlin is a technology demonstrator at the moment, it is likely that it will be used by the South African Air Force (SAAF), as the SAAF currently lacks a beyond visual range (BVR) missile and at present only has the interim infrared guided IRIS-T short-range air-to-air missile (SRAAM) in service, although the Denel Dynamics A-Darter SRAAM is about to enter service – final acceptance of this will be completed before the end of the year.

Denel Dynamics also sees Marlin configured into an all-weather surface-to-air missile. Common subsystems will be used for the different variants of the weapon, with some components tailored specifically for the relevant application of the missile.

Although Marlin is fully funded by the Department of Defence via Armscor, Denel Dynamics is looking for an international partner to collaborate with during the future development programme.

 

[Philip the Arab]

As HALCON expands its home-grown UAE-based design and manufacturing of bomb-guidance systems and their enabling technologies, we have a growing requirement for development engineers.


While we attract top talent from across the globe, our goal with The 400 is to hire 400 Emirati engineers in over the next 10 years. To achieve this goal, we are reaching out to high schools and universities in the UAE to identify and engage Emirati youth early. We also fund overseas university studies for talented and motivated UAE nationals and work with human capital building entities in the UAE to expand the pipeline of young Emiratis into engineering fields and roles with companies such as HALCON.

 

[The SC]

QX-4 the largest of the new drones from ADASI

 

[Philip the Arab]

Halcon multi mission launcher will use Iveco Astra 6x6

250km range with HAS-250 anti ship
80 km range with Desert Sting 25kg warhead
55 km range with Desert Sting 16kg warhead
42 km range with Desert Sting 5kg warhead

What it needs? Tactical ballistic missiles, and a land attack cruise missile.


It will likely gain the ability to launch the Nasef low cost cruise missile very soon.

 

[Wilhelm II]

Halcon multi mission launcher will use Iveco Astra 6x6

250km range with HAS-250 anti ship
80 km range with Desert Sting 25kg warhead
55 km range with Desert Sting 16kg warhead
42 km range with Desert Sting 5kg warhead

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What it needs? Tactical ballistic missiles, and a land attack cruise missile.


It will likely gain the ability to launch the Nasef low cost cruise missile very soon.

Nasef is wide for it
Uae must work with South Korea in wide fields
And if secretly work with North Korea is good

 

[Philip the Arab]

Nasef is wide for it

Boosters need redesign and the wings fold which will allow it.

 

[Gomig-21]

Amazing and impressive beyond words, actually. I've been pushing the thought of Egypt doing something similar for decades to keep up with the advancements in tech, now and who knows where they're at. They certainty haven't said or showed anything besides Amoun SAMs so it's only safe to assume they haven't done anything with A2A missiles. But I think they waited for the Russian and MICA & Meteor.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Amazing and impressive beyond words, actually. I've been pushing the thought of Egypt doing something similar for decades to keep up with the advancements in tech, now and who knows where they're at. They certainty haven't said or showed anything besides Amoun SAMs so it's only safe to assume they haven't done anything with A2A missiles. But I think they waited for the Russian and MICA & Meteor.

There is the medium range air defense system they are developing, I think we may see something related to it at EDEX in December hopefully.

Depends on its guidance, it could work as an air to air missile.

I hope Egypt, and UAE collaborate in the future. Egypt could produce the radars for the missiles, and UAE can produce the missiles.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Halcon video from August 2020, what were they trying to hide by blurring out the background?

Could just be the products we saw at IDEX 2021 I suppose we'll never know.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Interesting Tweet from a South African defense analyst and shows the Denel Dyanmics connection

https://twitter.com/x/status/1393508619363172353

 

[Wilhelm II]

Boosters need redesign and the wings fold which will allow it.

It means longer missile
Halcon must work on stealthiest shapes for missiles

Halcon video from August 2020, what were they trying to hide by blurring out the background?

Could just be the products we saw at IDEX 2021 I suppose we'll never know.

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Is the right side censored?! I like it

 

[Philip the Arab]

It means longer missile
Halcon must work on stealthiest shapes for missiles

To be fair the missile likely already has a very small RCS because of its size which would be hard for most air defense systems to intercept.
I agree though Halcon could get the RCS down a lot to the size of a stealth fighter with the right shaping.

Is the right side censored?! I like it

Its censored yes,could be only for people in the government who visit Halcon and employees to see it. Halcon has now more employees than Denel Dynamics.

Imagine we see a tactical ballistic missile at Dubai Airshow
Then we can have a complete modular MLRS, anti ship, and tactical ballistic missile truck

South Africans developed these ballistic missiles in the 70s, 80s, and 90s based off Israeli designs, lets hope some of the engineers are working for Halcon