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Live: Grand celebration honoring 70th anniversary of the People's Republic of China. 庆祝中华人民共和国成立70周年

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Thats good.

Manchuria, Taiwan, and Tibet were not part of China during Tang years. Too bad for Xinjiang though.

Nat far from this:
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It’s pretty well know that if the Manchus didn’t occupy those areas than the Russia will just take over & force convert or wiping out the local people. The Brits would have just taken over Tibet and it will be a Hindu Indian state.
 
It’s pretty well know that if the Manchus didn’t occupy those areas than the Russia will just take over & force convert or wiping out the local people. The Brits would have just taken over Tibet and it will be a Hindu Indian state.

Tibet was independent even after the end of WW2. They had about 50 years of independence finally after the Qing fell. They lost it when the communists marched in in 1950. The UK, nor was anybody else going to occupy Tibet.

Japan took Manchuria and kept it out of Russian hands. Russia took Mongolia. If Beast wants to go back to Tang era with nukes, leaving Manchu independent would be a welcome. Out of northern Vietnam too of course.

Do you understand the word 'Surpass' ?

Tang territory minus Northern Vietnam, but with nukes. I'm fine with that.
 
So how is Obama 2012 US pivot to Asia turning out? :enjoy:

The Pivot to Asia Was Obama’s Biggest Mistake

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By putting Asia at the center of its security strategy, the Obama administration inadvertently made the entire enterprise seem to Beijing like an effort to contain China militarily. This led China to respond by becoming more aggressive, helping to undo the general tranquility that existed before 2008.

Emblematic of this mistake was the roll-out of the Air-Sea Battle doctrine. First outlined in a then-classified memo in 2009, ASB became official doctrine in 2010. From the beginning, it was an effort to develop an operational doctrine for a possible military confrontation with China and then-Secretary of Defense Robert Gates openly discussed the need to counter China’s growing military capabilities. The signal received in Beijing was the United States had hostile intentions toward China and was trying to contain it militarily. The result was that the entire pivot was seen by Beijing as part of a broader effort to encircle China.

If the first flaw in the pivot was the prominence of its military component, the second flaw was that there wasn’t a compelling reason to have a military component at all. The premise of the pivot was that Asia was more important relative to other parts of the world because it was home to a rising proportion of global GDP and was now at the center of the world economy. But this called for an economic response to take advantage of an opportunity, not a military response to counter threats. Yet, the pivot to Asia contained a robust military component.

This led China to view the entire enterprise, not just its military components, as part of a broader effort at containment. For example, when the TPP was finalized in 2015, Obama said, “TPP allows America — and not countries like China — to write the rules of the road in the 21st century.” Even trade deals were being presented as a way to counter the threat from China. It is no mystery why Beijing believed U.S. strategy in the region centered on containing China’s rise. The United States publicly said this is exactly what it was doing.
If anyone wants to follow Dr M to lick other people’s boot, then Ok, pls don’t ask nor comment other people’s actions.

The pivot of the US is the right move to keep military balance in E Asia.

A war is likely to happen if a party is certain he/she will win.
 
Tibet was independent even after the end of WW2. They had about 50 years of independence finally after the Qing fell. They lost it when the communists marched in in 1950. The UK, nor was anybody else going to occupy Tibet.

Japan took Manchuria and kept it out of Russian hands. Russia took Mongolia. If Beast wants to go back to Tang era with nukes, leaving Manchu independent would be a welcome. Out of northern Vietnam too of course.



Tang territory minus Northern Vietnam, but with nukes. I'm fine with that.

I know fake japanese like you are sour after watching the greatness of China. Real Japanese are eager to work with China. Real strength speaks louder like delusionalist who acted like you. You know why Japan is able to maintain developed country for many decades? Becos they are opened minded. Willing to learn from stronger people.

Abe is eager to welcome Xi next year during an official visit invited by Abe himself. Continue cry and drown yourself in sour. :lol:

https://www.teletrader.com/abe-invites-xi-for-state-visit-in-2020/news/details/48506514
 
I know fake japanese like you are sour after watching the greatness of China. Real Japanese are eager to work with China. Real strength speaks louder like delusionalist who acted like you. You know why Japan is able to maintain developed country for many decades? Becos they are opened minded. Willing to learn from stronger people.

Abe is eager to welcome Xi next year during an official visit invited by Abe himself. Continue cry and drown yourself in sour. :lol:

https://www.teletrader.com/abe-invites-xi-for-state-visit-in-2020/news/details/48506514

Relations between Japan and China have been tense and sentiments have been low since 2012. If sentiments improve, then cool heads might be able to achieve a peaceful coexistance where both sides share the same understanding and knowing about security situation in the Asia-Pacific. But if the PRC is going to continue to try to make itself the regional security hegemony and keep selling that idea to its population, then by the time the 2020 and 2022 Oliympics pass, we may be in for a stupid cold war. Although I'm some of you here are eager for that.

You seem to have selective memory about Japan defense developments in how you talk about "Japanese pragmatism". Surely you can recall the reinterpretation of the constitution in 2014 which resulted in new defense laws that passed in 2015 that included "collective self-defense" or legal right to "possess weapons that can strike enemy bases". So either you forgot those things, perhaps because Japan doesn't trumpet defense related developments nearly as loudly as the PRC, thus escaping your perception that has been normalized to CCP propaganda quantity. Or you're aware of those things and just want tl keep selling the idea on the webs that Japan has done nothing thus "pragmatically" kowtowing. Or possibly a third, your just trying to pressing my buttons, and just typing braincell murdering nonsense.
 
Relations between Japan and China have been tense and sentiments have been low since 2012. If sentiments improve, then cool heads might be able to achieve a peaceful coexistance where both sides share the same understanding and knowing about security situation in the Asia-Pacific. But if the PRC is going to continue to try to make itself the regional security hegemony and keep selling that idea to its population, then by the time the 2020 and 2022 Oliympics pass, we may be in for a stupid cold war. Although I'm some of you here are eager for that.

You seem to have selective memory about Japan defense developments in how you talk about "Japanese pragmatism". Surely you can recall the reinterpretation of the constitution in 2014 which resulted in new defense laws that passed in 2015 that included "collective self-defense" or legal right to "possess weapons that can strike enemy bases". So either you forgot those things, perhaps because Japan doesn't trumpet defense related developments nearly as loudly as the PRC, thus escaping your perception that has been normalized to CCP propaganda quantity. Or you're aware of those things and just want tl keep selling the idea on the webs that Japan has done nothing thus "pragmatically" kowtowing. Or possibly a third, your just trying to pressing my buttons, and just typing braincell murdering nonsense.
LOL.. I know you try hard to save face. Btw, you dont represent Japanese. A faker acting as one. If Japan want, they can even join China UN soldiers together. Diaoyutai will settle in future for both countries. Japan military is no more threat to China. They are left far too behind. Japanese knows that. They respect strength. When you show them real strength. They will respect China. :enjoy:
 
LOL.. I know you try hard to save face. Btw, you dont represent Japanese. A faker acting as one. If Japan want, they can even join China UN soldiers together. Diaoyutai will settle in future for both countries. Japan military is no more threat to China. They are left far too behind. Japanese knows that. They respect strength. When you show them real strength. They will respect China. :enjoy:

Keep taunting troll. Readers know Japanese capabilities.
 
There's this..

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LUMUT NAVAL BASE, Malaysia (NNS) -- The U.S. Navy and Coast Guard and the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) began Maritime Training Activity (MTA) Malaysia 2019 marked by an opening ceremony at Lumut Naval Base, Aug. 14.

MTA Malaysia 2019 is a continuation of 25 years of maritime engagements between the U.S. Navy and Royal Malaysian Navy serving to enhance mutual capabilities in ensuring maritime security and stability.

The Pacific Area commander for the U.S. Coast Guard, Vice Adm. Linda Fagan, said that working alongside the U.S. Navy and international partners in this exercise is an important part of their mission in the Indo-Pacific. “We are proud to operate with our Malaysian partners, and together we are dedicated to strengthening maritime governance and security in support of peace and prosperity throughout the region.”

This year also marks 62 years of diplomatic partnership between the U.S. and Malaysia.

Vice Admiral Dato’ Aris Adi Tan Bin Abdullah, commander of Royal Malaysian Navy Western Fleet, said the conduct of this MTA is significant because in addition to the U.S. Navy and Royal Malaysian Navy, it is the first time this exercise has involved the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency and the U.S. Coast Guard. “It also provides better opportunity for both navies and coast guards to exchange knowledge and thoughts while developing a mutual understanding,” he said.

This year’s exercise will feature hundreds of Sailors and Coast Guardsmen from both nations who will come together throughout five days of at-sea and onshore training designed to enhance naval interoperability.

Rear Adm. Joey Tynch, commander, Task Force 73, who oversees theater security cooperation for the U.S. Navy in Southeast Asia, said this exercise with Malaysia is another layer to the strong and enduring Navy-to-Navy relationships in the Indo-Pacific. “This is partnership in action,” said Tynch. “The skills and trust built while working together at sea are at the heart of maritime security.”

At-sea, participants will engage in hands-on training in visit, board, search and seizure (VBSS), mobile dive and salvage, a gunnery exercise, maritime patrol operations and Replenishment at-sea. Onshore, there will be subject matter exchanges in aviation, woman’s leadership, damage control, military law, public affairs, and medicine.

“MTA Malaysia 2019 will include robust training covering a wide spectrum of naval operations,” said Capt. Matthew Jerbi, commodore of Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 7. “This year's schedule of events builds upon decades of side-by-side training that has allowed us to constantly evolve and push the boundaries of maritime bilateral capabilities, and we look forward to working with our Malaysian partners throughout the week.”

Additionally, sports exchanges and community outreach events are scheduled throughout the duration of the exercise in local schools and community centers as well as joint band performances at multiple venues by the U.S. Navy 7th Fleet Band and the Malaysian Navy Band.

U.S. assets participating in MTA Malaysia will feature the Independence-variant littoral combat ship USS Montgomery (LCS 8), U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Stratton (WMSL 752), Safeguard-class salvage ship USNS Salvor (ARS 52), expeditionary fast transport ship USNS Millinocket (T-EPF 3), Mobile Dive and Salvage Unit 1, an MH-60S Seahawk helicopter and an MH-65 Dolphin helicopter. In addition, the U.S. will be supported by the U.S. 7th Fleet Band.

Royal Malaysian Navy assets include Lekiu-class frigate KD Lekiu (F30) and Kasturi-class corvette KD Kasturi (FSG 25), RMN Diving Unit, CB90 fast assault craft, a Super Lynx helicopter and Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) vessel KM Marlin.

Maritime Training Activity Malaysia builds upon 25 years of maritime engagement between the U.S. and Malaysia as well as other exercises in South Asia, Southeast Asia and the Pacific Islands including Pacific Partnership, the largest annual multilateral humanitarian assistance and disaster relief preparedness mission; Maritime Training Activity Sama with the Philippines; Pacific Griffin with Singapore; and Southeast Asia Cooperation and Training (SEACAT), which involves nearly a dozen partner nations. These engagements bring like-minded naval forces together routinely based on shared values and maritime security interests.

As U.S. 7th Fleet's executive agent for theater security cooperation in South and Southeast Asia, Commander, Task Force 73 and Destroyer Squadron 7 conduct advanced planning, organize resources, and directly support the execution of CARAT and other engagements in the region.
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https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=110578
Grasping at straws.
Pivot to Asia = Moving 60% of US Navy to Asia.
If anyone wants to follow Dr M to lick other people’s boot, then Ok, pls don’t ask nor comment other people’s actions.

The pivot of the US is the right move to keep military balance in E Asia.

A war is likely to happen if a party is certain he/she will win.
You mis understand me. US pivot to Asia was not necessary. US already had an advantage military. By saying directly and officially that the pivot was to contain China it gave China justification for it's huge military build up. It also allow China to explain to smaller neighboring countries about it's military buildup. It's about strategy.

Another example: Bush pull out of the ABM treaty in 2002 at a time when China only have a few DF5 nuclear missiles (about 20) and that had not change in decades. Because of Bush action, it resulted in China nuclear modernization and expansion. Today China openly announce the deployment of the DF41. So today, 17years later, does US feel safer?
 
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