Kurds call for Removal of Turkey from NATO

[A.M.]

Oh yes, let's all blame Turkey for looking out for its own interests ahead of others countries'.

Not like every other country on this planet doesn't do the same.

Why is the NATO membership even in question here? Are Syria/Iraq a NATO member that Turkey is expected to support them no questions asked?

 

[SALMAN F]

And what NATO did for turkey anyway ??
Turkey membership in the NATO is useless many of the so called NATO countries like France and Germany give pkk terrorism camps for political and military training and they don't do anything about these terrorist who train in their countries many pkk terrorists supporters live in France Germany

 

[Steve781]

And what NATO did for turkey anyway ??
Turkey membership in the NATO is useless many of the so called NATO countries like France and Germany give pkk terrorism camps for political and military training and they don't do anything about these terrorist who train in their countries many pkk terrorists supporters live in France Germany

Every European country lists the PKK as a terrorist organisation. Many have close ties to Iraqi Kurds but so does Turkey as Iraqi Kurds are usually anti PKK.

 

[SALMAN F]

Every European country lists the PKK as a terrorist organisation.

But they let them in their countries and don't arrest them like the three pkk members who were assassinated in Paris and pjak leader scumbag in Germany if they are listed as terrorists why they let them in their countries??

 

[Alienoz_TR]

But they let them in their countries and don't arrest them like the three pkk members who were assassinated in Paris and pjak leader scumbag in Germany if they are listed as terrorists why they let them in their countries??

Europeans use them to destabilize Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.

 

[Steve781]

But they let them in their countries and don't arrest them like the three pkk members who were assassinated in Paris and pjak leader scumbag in Germany if they are listed as terrorists why they let them in their countries??

It's the asylum system. You have to provide shelter to political refugees under EU law. You can't blame individual countries for that. Britain tried to kick out people like Abu Hamza and Abu Qatada for a decade but the judges at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg kept blocking it.

 

[SALMAN F]

It's the asylum system. You have to provide shelter to political refugees under EU law. You can't blame individual countries for that. Britain tried to kick out people like Abu Hamza and Abu Qatada for a decade but the judges at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg kept blocking it.

What a great system they claim that they fight terrorism at the same time give them asylum they should stop their hypocritical nonsense

 

[pakdefender]

Turkey should acquire nuclear weapons

 

[Steve781]

Europeans use them to destabilize Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.

What would be the purpose of destabilising Turkey which was a close ally until very recently?

 

[Nefer]

Turkey should acquire nuclear weapons

I personally think Turkey should invent Uranium Stabilizers with radio wave technology ? Stable Uranium means no explosion and doing the same for the more problematic instable Nuclear groups

 

[Alienoz_TR]

What would be the purpose of destabilising Turkey which was a close ally until very recently?

International support

At the height of its campaign, the organization received support from many countries. According to Turkey, countries the PKK has previously/currently received support from include: Greece,[98][99] Iran,[100] Iraq,[101] Russia[102] and Syria.[100] The level of support given has changed throughout this period.

Syria

From early 1979 to 1999 Syria had provided valuable safe havens to PKK in the region of Beqaa Valley. However, after the undeclared war between Turkey and Syria, Syria placed restrictions on PKK activity on its soil. Turkey was expecting positive developments in its cooperation with Syria in the long term, but even during the course of 2005, there were PKK operatives of Syrian nationality operating in Turkey.[93][103]

Iran

Iran provided PKK with supplies in the form of weapons and funds.[citation needed] However, Iran later listed PKK as a terrorist organization after Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan used Iran's supply of resources to the PKK began to be used on its own soil.

Greece

Retired Greek L.T. General Dimitris Matafias and retired Greek Navy Admiral Antonis Naxakis had visited the organization's Mahsun Korkmaz base camp in Beqaa Valley in October 1988 along with parliamentarians from the Panhellenic Socialist Movement(PASOK).[104] At the time it was reported that the general had assumed responsibility for training. Greeks also dispatched arms through the Republic of Cyprus.[104] In December 1993, Greek European affairs minister Theodoros Pangalos was quoted as saying "we must be supportive of the Kurdish people to be free".[105] Greece declined to join Germany and France and the eleven other members at the EU to ban the organization.[105] During the 1990s, Greece supplied the rebels.[106]

Republic of Cyprus

Support of the Republic of Cyprus was alleged when Abdullah Öcalan was caught with a Cypriot passport under the name of Mavros Lazaros, a nationalist reporter.

Soviet Union and Russia

[107] According to the former KGB-FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko, who was poisoned in 2006, PKK's leader Abdullah Öcalan was trained by KGB-FSB.[108] As of 2008, Russia is still not among the states that list PKK as a terrorist group despite intense Turkish pressure.

United Kingdom

MED TV broadcast for five years in the UK, until its license was revoked by the regulators the Independent Television Commission (ITC) in 1999. The PKK has been listed as a terrorist organisation since 2001. In 2008 the United Kingdom detained members of the PKK and seized the assets of the PKK's representative in Britain, Selman Bozkur, alias "Dr. Hüseyin". His assets remain frozen.[109]

Support of various European states

Despite Brussels' designation of the group as a terrorist organization, the EU continues to permit the broadcasting of the organization's networks on the Hot Bird 3 satellite owned by the French company Eutelsat. MEDYA TV started transmissions from studios in Belgium via a satellite uplink from France. MEDYA TV's license was revoked by the French authorities. A few weeks later Roj TV began transmissions from Denmark. It has also been argued that the Netherlands and Belgium have supported the PKK by allowing its training camps to function in their respective territories. On 22 November 1998, Hanover's criminal police reported that three children had been trained by the PKK for guerrilla warfare in camps in the Netherlands and Belgium.[110] After the death of Theo van Gogh, with increasing attention on domestic security concerns, the Dutch police raided the 'PKK paramilitary camp' in the Dutch town of Liempde and arrested 29 people in November 2004, but all were soon released.[111] Denmark allows Kurdish satellite television stations (such as ROJ-TV), which Turkey claims has links with the PKK, to operate in Denmark and broadcast into Turkey.[112]
Various PKK leaders, including Hidir Yalcin, Riza Altun, Zubeyir Aydar, and Ali Haydar Kaytan all lived in Europe and moved freely. The free movement was achieved by strong ties with influential persons. Danielle Mitterrand, the wife of the former President of France, had active connections during the 90s with elements of the organization's leadership that forced a downgrade in relationships between the two states.[113] After harboring him for some time,Austria arranged a flight to Iraq for Ali Rıza Altun, a suspected key figure with an Interpolarrest warrant on his name.. Turkish foreign minister Abdullah Gül summoned the Austrian ambassador and condemned Austria's action.[114] On 30 September 1995, while Öcalan was in Syria, Damascus initiated contact with high-ranking German CDU MP Heinrich Lummer and German intelligence officials.

The Chief of the Turkish General Staff during 2007, General Yaşar Büyükanıt, stated that even though the international struggle had been discussed on every platform and even though organizations such as the UN, NATO, and EU made statements of serious commitment, to this day the necessary measures had not been taken.[115] According to Büyükanıt; "this conduct on one side has encouraged the terrorists, on the other side it assisted in widening their activities.[115] " Sedat Laçiner, of the Turkish think tank ISRO, says that US support of the PKK undermines the US War on Terrorism.[116] Seymour Hershclaimed that the U.S. supported PEJAK, the Iranian branch of the PKK.[117] The head of the PKK's militant arm, Murat Karayılan, claimed that Iran attempted to recruit the PKK to attack coalition forces, adding that Kurdish guerrillas had launched a clandestine war in north-western Iran, ambushing Iranian troops.

Kurdistan Workers' Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[A1Kaid]

Turkey should acquire nuclear weapons

That would be a violation of the NPT which Turkey signed in 1969.

Turkey calls for implementation of global non-proliferation regime (SETimes.com)

 

[Steve781]

International support
At the height of its campaign, the organization received support from many countries. According to Turkey, countries the PKK has previously/currently received support from include: Greece,[98][99] Iran,[100] Iraq,[101] Russia[102] and Syria.[100] The level of support given has changed throughout this period.

Syria

From early 1979 to 1999 Syria had provided valuable safe havens to PKK in the region of Beqaa Valley. However, after the undeclared war between Turkey and Syria, Syria placed restrictions on PKK activity on its soil. Turkey was expecting positive developments in its cooperation with Syria in the long term, but even during the course of 2005, there were PKK operatives of Syrian nationality operating in Turkey.[93][103]

Iran

Iran provided PKK with supplies in the form of weapons and funds.[citation needed] However, Iran later listed PKK as a terrorist organization after Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan used Iran's supply of resources to the PKK began to be used on its own soil.

Greece

Retired Greek L.T. General Dimitris Matafias and retired Greek Navy Admiral Antonis Naxakis had visited the organization's Mahsun Korkmaz base camp in Beqaa Valley in October 1988 along with parliamentarians from the Panhellenic Socialist Movement(PASOK).[104] At the time it was reported that the general had assumed responsibility for training. Greeks also dispatched arms through the Republic of Cyprus.[104] In December 1993, Greek European affairs minister Theodoros Pangalos was quoted as saying "we must be supportive of the Kurdish people to be free".[105] Greece declined to join Germany and France and the eleven other members at the EU to ban the organization.[105] During the 1990s, Greece supplied the rebels.[106]

Republic of Cyprus

Support of the Republic of Cyprus was alleged when Abdullah Öcalan was caught with a Cypriot passport under the name of Mavros Lazaros, a nationalist reporter.

Soviet Union and Russia

[107] According to the former KGB-FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko, who was poisoned in 2006, PKK's leader Abdullah Öcalan was trained by KGB-FSB.[108] As of 2008, Russia is still not among the states that list PKK as a terrorist group despite intense Turkish pressure.

United Kingdom

MED TV broadcast for five years in the UK, until its license was revoked by the regulators the Independent Television Commission (ITC) in 1999. The PKK has been listed as a terrorist organisation since 2001. In 2008 the United Kingdom detained members of the PKK and seized the assets of the PKK's representative in Britain, Selman Bozkur, alias "Dr. Hüseyin". His assets remain frozen.[109]

Support of various European states

Despite Brussels' designation of the group as a terrorist organization, the EU continues to permit the broadcasting of the organization's networks on the Hot Bird 3 satellite owned by the French company Eutelsat. MEDYA TV started transmissions from studios in Belgium via a satellite uplink from France. MEDYA TV's license was revoked by the French authorities. A few weeks later Roj TV began transmissions from Denmark. It has also been argued that the Netherlands and Belgium have supported the PKK by allowing its training camps to function in their respective territories. On 22 November 1998, Hanover's criminal police reported that three children had been trained by the PKK for guerrilla warfare in camps in the Netherlands and Belgium.[110] After the death of Theo van Gogh, with increasing attention on domestic security concerns, the Dutch police raided the 'PKK paramilitary camp' in the Dutch town of Liempde and arrested 29 people in November 2004, but all were soon released.[111] Denmark allows Kurdish satellite television stations (such as ROJ-TV), which Turkey claims has links with the PKK, to operate in Denmark and broadcast into Turkey.[112]
Various PKK leaders, including Hidir Yalcin, Riza Altun, Zubeyir Aydar, and Ali Haydar Kaytan all lived in Europe and moved freely. The free movement was achieved by strong ties with influential persons. Danielle Mitterrand, the wife of the former President of France, had active connections during the 90s with elements of the organization's leadership that forced a downgrade in relationships between the two states.[113] After harboring him for some time,Austria arranged a flight to Iraq for Ali Rıza Altun, a suspected key figure with an Interpolarrest warrant on his name.. Turkish foreign minister Abdullah Gül summoned the Austrian ambassador and condemned Austria's action.[114] On 30 September 1995, while Öcalan was in Syria, Damascus initiated contact with high-ranking German CDU MP Heinrich Lummer and German intelligence officials.

The Chief of the Turkish General Staff during 2007, General Yaşar Büyükanıt, stated that even though the international struggle had been discussed on every platform and even though organizations such as the UN, NATO, and EU made statements of serious commitment, to this day the necessary measures had not been taken.[115] According to Büyükanıt; "this conduct on one side has encouraged the terrorists, on the other side it assisted in widening their activities.[115] " Sedat Laçiner, of the Turkish think tank ISRO, says that US support of the PKK undermines the US War on Terrorism.[116] Seymour Hershclaimed that the U.S. supported PEJAK, the Iranian branch of the PKK.[117] The head of the PKK's militant arm, Murat Karayılan, claimed that Iran attempted to recruit the PKK to attack coalition forces, adding that Kurdish guerrillas had launched a clandestine war in north-western Iran, ambushing Iranian troops.

Kurdistan Workers' Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You haven't proved that the EU has supported the PKK. All you've proved is that they've been soft on them for fear of upsetting Kurds living in Europe.

 

[usernameless]

pathetic, as if Turkey ever is gonna help pkk and pyd against isis. Turkey has done its humanitarian responsibility, the fighting belongs to isis and pkk/pyd, both terrorist. Such opportunistic crying pyd and pkk supporting Kurds were nowhere to be seen when pyd was sitting idle against isis while the latter was slaughtering Arab and Turkmen sunni and shias. wrong bet.
on a serious sidenote, Turkey leaving nato? Let us see them try. Russia is getting more assertive, so Turkey's 'value' will slowly increase over time in the eyes of the west, especially when Turkey becomes more critical due the pipeline projects which will serve as an alternative of Russian resources. Such statements are nothing but the desperate voices of the ignorant mass that act on emotions and biases.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

You haven't proved that the EU has supported the PKK. All you've proved is that they've been soft on them for fear of upsetting Kurds living in Europe. The US was very soft on the IRA in order to please Irish Americans.

I said: Europeans use them. Supporting is done openly. Using is done secretly.

Nevermind, PKK drug gangs operate freely in European streets injecting poison into European youth. Your problem. On our side, We here deal with them harshly.