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PESHAWAR: Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Chief Hakimullah Mehsud has called the democratic system un-Islamic, adding that TTP wants to replace democracy in Pakistan and all other Islamic countries with Shariah Law.

In a video message, Mehsud said that non-believers are trying to divide Muslims in the name of democracy. He further said that TTP wants to enforce Shariah Law in Islamic countries and this can only be done through Jihad, adding that a time will come when Muslim Khilafat will rule over the world.

The TTP chief also blamed the United States and government of conspiring to make Muslims fight with one another.

Democratic system is un-Islamic: Hakimullah Mehsud | Pakistan - geo.tv
 
If i remember killing innocent is also un-islamic so what does that make him. And how only geo news gets the interview with these terrorists.

Exclusive contract and exploitation rights? Never did understand how these scumbags can give interviews so freely, hope someone drops in a nice HE warhead upon his head the next time he takes a peak!
 
Hakimullah Mahsud is one of the most dangerous criminals in Pakistan and he and his predecessor Baitullah have been involved in massive atrocities against Pakistan. Today 40,000 Pakistanis are dead because of this mass murderer. But the biggest issue and question is why do the forces not take action against him and try to eliminate him.

If given the chance I can form up a team to trace and eliminate this Taliban commander. This man is Pakistan's Bin Laden. ISI should infiltrate his network and find a way to assassinate him. This militant is extremely dangerous and we must find a way to eliminate him. The ease with which this man gives fiery sermons and interviews with journalists threatening the Pakistani state makes people wonder about whether our Pakistani government really has the will to eliminate the Taliban.

The funny thing is America says ban fertilizer because its hurting foreign troops we do it. But when it comes to eliminating those commanders and militants attacking Pakistani citizens we fail miserably in eliminating them. Serious action is needed against the TTP.
 
How first caliph was selected?

Don't start this here bro. To each his own caliph. Whether you accept Umar as the caliph or whether you believe Ali was the rightful heir to the caliphate, you are entitled to your own opinion. Pulling out history books and trying to justify one over the other is only going to worsen the sectarian conflict that has plagued the Muslim ummah for more than 14 centuries.

I seriously believe we need to bury this topic. The caliphate is not a feasible solution given the divide in modern day Islamic sects. I don't want to use Christianity as an example but I'm compelled to. Although divides between the various Christian sects such as the Protestants, the Catholic, the Presbyterian and the Orthodox are set in stone, the leadership Christian countries are driven by commercial interests and national identity alone. Although state leaders may choose one sect over the other in the practice of their rituals, the influence of religion is confined to their private lives. It wasn't always like this. At one point (as is the case with Islam now) religion ran the marketplace. There was unrest, suppression of science and great loss of life, but with time (and tragedy) they were taught the importance of the separation of religion from the functions of the state.

If you want to watch Pakistan flourish you will need to put Pakistan (and the Islamic democracy it stands for) before the operation of religion. Before I'm pounced on for being a heretic (There isn't only one Hakimullah Mehsud in this country, its flooded with them) here is some food-for-thought.

The Quaid's 3-word edifice upon which this nation stands reads Faith, Unity and Discipline. Therein lies a grave problem. Because although Unity connotes the aspects of unanimity and inclusiveness, Faith connotes belief alone. The problem with connoting belief alone is that different sects of Islam have different sets of beliefs. Faith for the Ahmadis is exclusive of the set of principles that guide the Shias and the Sunnis and their teachings separate from those that inspire the Bohris and the Barelvis. Hence Faith is Multiplicity; and Unity is Singularity and both of these are at loggerheads. Plurality brings colour to national life but forming a nation on the plurality of faith before establishing the concept of national unity and identity is an unfortunately shortsighted attempt to invoke national harmony. This is without doubt a good basis for a thought-provoking research paper which I intend to pursue sometime later this year but I seriously do hope my ramblings here are coherent enough for comprehension.

Like I said earlier, to each his own take on Islam. As Pakistanis in dire of need of direction we need to put Pakistan before the teachings of faith. Take this lunatic up there for example. He's put his faith before Pakistan and lo and behold - 40,000 Pakistanis dead.
 
Don't start this here bro. To each his own caliph. Whether you accept Umar as the caliph or whether you believe Ali was the rightful heir to the caliphate, you are entitled to your own opinion. Pulling out history books and trying to justify one over the other is only going to worsen the sectarian conflict that has plagued the Muslim ummah for more than 14 centuries.

I seriously believe we need to bury this topic. The caliphate is not a feasible solution given the divide in modern day Islamic sects. I don't want to use Christianity as an example but I'm compelled to. Although divides between the various Christian sects such as the Protestants, the Catholic, the Presbyterian and the Orthodox are set in stone, the leadership Christian countries are driven by commercial interests and national identity alone. Although state leaders may choose one sect over the other in the practice of their rituals, the influence of religion is confined to their private lives. It wasn't always like this. At one point (as is the case with Islam now) religion ran the marketplace. There was unrest, suppression of science and great loss of life, but with time (and tragedy) they were taught the importance of the separation of religion from the functions of the state.

If you want to watch Pakistan flourish you will need to put Pakistan (and the Islamic democracy it stands for) before the operation of religion. Before I'm pounced on for being a heretic (There isn't only one Hakimullah Mehsud in this country, its flooded with them) here is some food-for-thought.

The Quaid's 3-word edifice upon which this nation stands reads Faith, Unity and Discipline. Therein lies a grave problem. Because although Unity connotes the aspects of unanimity and inclusiveness, Faith connotes belief alone. The problem with connoting belief alone is that different sects of Islam have different sets of beliefs. Faith for the Ahmadis is exclusive of the set of principles that guide the Shias and the Sunnis and there teachings separate from those that inspire the Bohris and the Barelvis. Hence Faith is Multiplicity; and Unity is Singularity and both of these are at loggerheads. Plurality brings colour to national life but forming a nation on the plurality of faith before establishing the concept of national unity and identity is an unfortunately shortsighted attempt to invoke national harmony. This is without doubt a good basis for a thought-provoking research paper which I intend to pursue sometime later this year but I seriously do hope my ramblings here are coherent enough for comprehension.

Like I said earlier, to each his own take on Islam. As Pakistanis in dire of need of direction we need to put Pakistan before the teachings of faith. Take this lunatic up there for example. He's put his faith before Pakistan and lo and behold - 40,000 Pakistanis dead.

WTF... dude??? How my question is sectarian? Isn't first caliph was selected by people?
 
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PESHAWAR: Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Chief Hakimullah Mehsud has called the democratic system un-Islamic, adding that TTP wants to replace democracy in Pakistan and all other Islamic countries with Shariah Law.

In a video message, Mehsud said that non-believers are trying to divide Muslims in the name of democracy. He further said that TTP wants to enforce Shariah Law in Islamic countries and this can only be done through Jihad, adding that a time will come when Muslim Khilafat will rule over the world.

The TTP chief also blamed the United States and government of conspiring to make Muslims fight with one another.

Democratic system is un-Islamic: Hakimullah Mehsud | Pakistan - geo.tv


H.Mehsud should realize that Islam flourishes under enlightenment, not by wars. Our Prophet (PBUH) endured pain for this man to claim the right to rule??

Nice picture btw


How first caliph was selected?

Indirectly, it was a form of democracy where people selected the Caliph who was accountable to the people. I don't remember electing any Mehsud to represent me anywhere.
 
WTF... dude??? How my question is sectarian? Isn't first caliph was selected by people?

Do you not know? The entire rift between Sunnis and Shias today is based on their divergent claims of the rightful heir to the throne of the caliphate. Here's some Wikipedia:

The historic background of the Sunni–Shia split lies in the schism that occurred when the Islamic prophet Muhammad died in the year 632, leading to a dispute over succession to Muhammad as a caliph of the Islamic community spread across various parts of the world which led to the Battle of Siffin. Sectarian violence persists to this day from Pakistan to Yemen and is a major element of friction throughout the Middle East.

Source: Shia
 
Do you not know? The entire rift between Sunnis and Shias today is based on their divergent claims of the rightful heir to the throne of the caliphate. Here's some Wikipedia:



Source: Shia


He didn't put the question in this regard. He was talking about the right of Muslims to elect their leadership/Caliph even in the earliest days of Islam.
 
He didn't put the question in this regard. He was talking about the right of Muslims to elect their leadership/Caliph even in the earliest days of Islam.

Ah. The Iranian flag set my alarm bells ringing. :whistle:
 

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