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KF-X Fighter Price Sets at 65 Million USD

A 5th generation fighter that costs only 65 million USD?

It may be considered as 4.5+ gen but not 5th generation as it is semi stealth or may be called as low observable up to some extent.
 
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What if Pakistan was able to secure American engines, will that entice PAF. I don’t think the US will block the engines for Pakistan given the progress on the Taliban talks.

The reason US block the engine of Turkish helicopter is to punish Turkey, not Pakistan. Similar thing I believe with the submarine engine for Pakistan that is block by German to punish China.
 
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The reason US block the engine of Turkish helicopter is to punish Turkey, not Pakistan. Similar thing I believe with the submarine engine for Pakistan that is block by German to punish China.

Exactly, that’s what I believe, too. In fact, allowing Pakistan to go to South Korea for its defense needs will shield the US from any foreign policy implications. It will allow the US to satisfy both India and Pakistan. Plus, it will allow the US to have influence on the Pakistan, an influence that’s dwindling at a pace not good for the US.
 
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I dont think at this stage they are going to give any further leak, we just need to wait, inshaAllah the roll out ceremony will happen soon.

Wikipedia says this :( Hopefully our brother Indonesia remains fully involved in the program and reaps all the possible industrial and technical benefits

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The reason US block the engine of Turkish helicopter is to punish Turkey, not Pakistan. Similar thing I believe with the submarine engine for Pakistan that is block by German to punish China.
That's BS..America hates Pakistan. Lets just get that straight.

Pakistan had made it suffer in Afghanistan and Americans know that
 
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KAI sets sights on Asia No. 1 in ‘new space’ era

By Kim Byung-wook

Korea‘s sole aircraft manufacturer aims to carve out a niche in satellite biz; KF-X fighter price set at $65m

Published : Apr 4, 2021 - 16:30




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KAI will hold a launching event of the 4.5-generation stealth fighter jet in the second week of this month, according to the CEO.

Starting 2028, KAI will begin the export of the KF-X aircraft based on its competitiveness in price.

“It takes about 100 billion won to 200 billion won to acquire one F-35 fighter jet. Lockheed Martin aims to bring down the price to $80 million per unit, but the maintenance costs are so high that even the US is considering to develop new 4.5 generation fighters or upgrade existing fighters,” said Ryu Kwang-su, head of aircraft program division.

“KAI aims to set the price of KF-X fighter at $65 million with minimized maintenance costs. Our analysis says that such price range will offer KF-X a competitive edge in the global export market.”

By Kim Byung-wook (kbw@heraldcorp.com)

if there are American components in there then the exports will be subject to American approval. this pretty much rules out Pakistan.
great achievement nonetheless.
 
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What if Pakistan was able to secure American engines, will that entice PAF. I don’t think the US will block the engines for Pakistan given the progress on the Taliban talks.
Pakistan is out of the game and on Ban list of American hardware. it is because America is prepping India against China. Pakistan is Chinese Ally and
and India wont play ball unless Pakistan is contained and denied American hardware.
 
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The reason US block the engine of Turkish helicopter is to punish Turkey, not Pakistan. Similar thing I believe with the submarine engine for Pakistan that is block by German to punish China.
you see? the common theme here is Pakistan. Jets or Subs or Helicopters , or education in high tech fields. Pakistan is barred directly, not because of its allies.
 
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Pakistan is out of the game and on Ban list of American hardware. it is because America is prepping India against China. Pakistan is Chinese Ally and
and India wont play ball unless Pakistan is contained and denied American hardware.

India was in the Soviet camp unofficially and it didn’t stop the US from engaging with them. I don’t think things are as zero-sum as Pakistanis imagine. Pakistan’s value to the US as compared to India has diminished but Pakistan can’t be written off.

Pakistanis simply need to be creative and create win-win situations, or in the very least, no spoil relations further.

Ultimately, a democratically stable and economically vibrant Pakistan will gain respect which’s the only way to create value and sustain it. Indonesia, Malaysia and Bangladesh are some examples of why economic vibrancy and democracy can have dividends beyond one’s borders.
 
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Not about the pricing...but strings that leads back to US.

it risks embargo n sanctions should indonesia gets into any friction with US allies (aus, nz) or act in any way against US interests be it direct or by proxy.

And there is nothing S.Korea can do about it.
 
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It may be considered as 4.5+ gen but not 5th generation as it is semi stealth or may be called as low observable up to some extent.

Block-1 of K-FX does not have internal bays.
However Block-2 of K-FX is planned with internal bays according to THIS link.

So block-2 K-FX would be a fifth gen fighter. There is also Block 3 in plans at this time, even before 1st prototype rolled out !
 
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Wikipedia says this :( Hopefully our brother Indonesia remains fully involved in the program and reaps all the possible industrial and technical benefits

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Wikipedia is not a good source, they tried to hide Indonesian technical participation even they said only ADD Korea who is a designer of KFX/IFX program. Actually both ADD and Indonesian team (Indonesian Aerospace+Bandung Institute of Technology) who made the KFX/IFX C 103 design that become a base of final C 109 design of KFX/IFX. KAI single engine design is rejected and it just enter the program in 2016. I get banned by trying to edit that page saying there are 114 Indonesian engineers participating in design as July of 2019 where the reference is DAPA Korea official and use Jane defense as source. I still get banned at Wiki until Today.



"Despite such a delay in payment, the Indonesian side has continued to send its researchers to South Korea to take part in the development process," Rep. Kim Joong-ro of the minor opposition Bareunmirae Party said during a parliamentary audit into the administration, voicing concern about technology leaks.

As of July, 114 Indonesian engineers were sent to South Korea to work with Korea Aerospace Industries Co. (KAI), the country's sole aircraft manufacturer, to design and make a prototype of the fighter, according to a DAPA official.
 
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Wikipedia is not a good source, they tried to hide Indonesian technical participation even they said only ADD Korea who is a designer of KFX/IFX program. Actually both ADD and Indonesian team (Indonesian Aerospace+Bandung Institute of Technology) who made the KFX/IFX C 103 design that become a base of final C 109 design of KFX/IFX. KAI single engine design is rejected and it just enter the program in 2016. I get banned by trying to edit that page saying there are 114 Indonesian engineers participating in design as July of 2019 where the reference is DAPA Korea official and use Jane defense as source. I still get banned at Wiki until Today.



"Despite such a delay in payment, the Indonesian side has continued to send its researchers to South Korea to take part in the development process," Rep. Kim Joong-ro of the minor opposition Bareunmirae Party said during a parliamentary audit into the administration, voicing concern about technology leaks.

As of July, 114 Indonesian engineers were sent to South Korea to work with Korea Aerospace Industries Co. (KAI), the country's sole aircraft manufacturer, to design and make a prototype of the fighter, according to a DAPA official.


As much as the KFX is a good fighter jet , it's a shame certain countries can't get it since they probably don't want American strings attached to them.
 
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