Vicotry is about getting strategic aims fulfilled, not distroying the other country. I have listed them above.
and Kargil we might retreated after you ran to US and Co.,
Which Indian leader ran to the US. Read about Kargil before saying that India ran to the US. India won Kargil decisively.
but the militants had your asses before you even knew you lost Kargil at first,
Militants had out asses? Check the number of militants killed and the number of security forces killed in comparison. You would be shocked. Infilteration is declining, Militats have lost popular support, more and more are getting killed. I wonder why?
and 2nd not all of PA and PAF was involved like Indian army was, get up and smell the coffee.
Musharraf says himself that PA was involved, so how the hell can u deny that. The PAF could not get involved, because it would be tantamount to declaring war on India. Then India would open up other fronts. And please, if the PAF had gotten involved, do you think the IAF would not have crossed the LOC. India has twice the number of planes than Pakistan, and most of them technologically superior.
Sooner or later they would have made veggie rolls out of India Army, you guyies had to call in artilery
Why shouldnt we call in our artilary. Wre'r not stupid. Why does the US bomb the country rodiculously before sending in troops. Does that mean they are cowards or something or did they lose? Its simple, to avoid collateral damage. Bomb NLI back to extinction in the mountains, and then send troops, worked wonders. They were not using artillery in the begining, and they found it harder, so they used arty to softedn everything up. I think its just basic common sense.
and airforce aganist a militai that didn't have that luxury during
Like i said, if US is attacking Iraq, why wont US use F-22's, if it has them against Iraq, cuz it dont have them. This is not a man to man fight. I'l use what i got, i wont go alone cuz u cant get that stuff.
kargil, so that definetly wasn't a victory at all for you guyies, and got lucky pakistan was ordered to retreat after UN and US intervened.
Yeah RIGHT! Pakistan was MADE to retreat. Dude, wake up, Pakistan was pounded in Kargil, they were losing ehacily, if they had not retreated, they would have been wiped off.
Stop using stupid and small incidences are victory declarations, like just cuz hezbollah sent some rockets in Israel, they were considered victorious against Israel. In real terms, that meant less than nothing. Do you actually think Pakistan can win a full war against India?? Pakistan has military that is meant to just compete with India in short time, in a full blown war, it would be completely destroyed with time.