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Journalist Arshad Sharif martyred in Kenya

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I want to drink whatever you're drinking. I am sorry after all this who's going to reign over us?

Pata nahi kahan sai uth kar bakwas kardaitay hain log.

Civil wars don't end ever. You have syria and Libya, learn from them. Delusional mindset to pick arms against the state because a journalist who was critical of the establishment died in a foreign country.

We don't know who killed him, if the army wanted him dead, he wouldn't have left Pakistan. Fuxkin mey board warriors everywhere.

People expecting us to rally behind immi who's a self proclaimed che guvera. Let the elections run their course and immi will come back automatically.
Who is saying this is a civil war. This is civil society telling the military enough is enough. How are you stretching that to a civil war.
This is exactly all self respecting nations do, when small men with big egos try and take from their nation what is not theirs.

If anything this is just the opposite of civil war. It is unifying all civil society against the over-reach of one constitutional body over the body-politiks of a nation now for 7 decades. It is their plundering of the national resources, and enabling others to plunder as well so they are not brought to account.

I am done being scared of this boogeyman - balkanization, civil war. What do you think the establishment's policies have done to this nation.
 
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No - that is an outright victim mentality lie.
They have all the power but do not have the moral courage to wield it simply because they have a lot to lose and are fed.

You cannot have any changes on full stomachs.
Sure. Completely agree. My point is this mindset has been there since centuries. However, the main reason is conforming nature than empty stomach. We are pacifist because we never fought for resources in plains. Tribal society had always been aggressive like German Hun, Russian, Arabs, Mongols, Arabs, etc as resources were rare and survival of the fittest. The remanence is still there today, despite they have 'civilised'.

People died in Bengal, now in Thar, and various parts of sub-continent still today, but no one revolts. It has been religious sentiments mainly, which is the driving force. Like 1857, various riots, Afghan war, 'pakistan ka matlab kaya.... ', etc. That is why IK is declaring this struggle as Jihad.
 
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Hamid Mir has US protection. The Pakistani army can't even touch him.

Arshad had no US protection. He was an easy target running away from Pakistan as his life was in danger.



Let them come. How many are they going to kill?
Lol.
No one is coming
 
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This is what happens when you have donkeys like Bajra in positions of power...educated and capable men get killed off.

Imagine raising a son till the age of 20 with whatever means you have to instill good values and education, only to have him killed off by some crock-pot, pot-bellied son of a bitch general with a small penis that can’t even do basic addition and subtraction.

I know if it happened to my son, I’d walk up to the GHQ solo dolo throwing petrol bombs till I got shot to death.

Then you guys wonder why Pakistan is the way that it is.
 
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What we don’t know is any agencies in Pakistan were involved in Arshad Sharif’s martyrdom.

What we know is, he was driven out of Pakistan, and from the UAE by the establishment.

The hybrid regime where the establishment has extra constitutional role over the parliamentary affairs cannot continue. To save their own skin, one brings a corrupt, that exacerbates the problem even further, as @akramishaqkhan pointed out.

If Pakistan has to survive, across the board accountability needs to take place. Otherwise the country will continue to be on the brink.

If IK comes back with a deal, then may he be damned. Only point of contention is free and fair elections and the establishment completely reverses it’s extra constitutional role and faces the law.
 
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What we don’t know is any agencies in Pakistan were involved in Arshad Sharif’s martyrdom.

What we know is, he was driven out of Pakistan, and from the UAE by the establishment.

The hybrid regime where the establishment has extra constitutional role over the parliamentary affairs cannot continue. To save their own skin, one brings a corrupt, that exacerbates the problem even further, as @akramishaqkhan pointed out.

If Pakistan has to survive, across the board accountability needs to take place. Otherwise the country will continue to be on the brink.

If IK comes back with a deal, then may he be damned. Only point of contention is free and fair elections and the establishment completely reverses it’s extra constitutional role and faces the law.

What we know is that milstablishment sub-contracted the hit job to the Kenyans. Our media doesn’t have access there and thus that eliminates any transparency or investigations.

Are the Kenyans in any way accountable to Pakistan? Is there anyone in power who will or even wants to hold them accountable?

They got him killed and and didn’t even get their hands dirty while covering their azzez. It was the perfect hit job.
 
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This was a professional job :
1. Bullet to the head...blood oozing from the head slightly above the left ear
2. Car is stationary/parked
3. Seat belt hastened
4. Engine off.
He was most likely abducted in Nairobi and driven to that remote location.
 
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If IK comes back with a deal, then may he be damned. Only point of contention is free and fair elections and the establishment completely reverses it’s extra constitutional role and faces the law.
The Thing is He is not accepting any deal. He is not giving them what they want and they know they are fed if he doesn't give them a way out. Had he agreed we would have been going toward a election by now. If He ends up accepting any kind of deal IK will be on the loosing end and he knows it. If Immi wins with 2/3rd Majority he can anything look at what Erdogan was able to achieve Turkish Deep state was way more powerful than in Pakistan and where are they now.
 
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What we know is that milstablishment sub-contracted the hit job to the Kenyans. Our media doesn’t have access there and thus that eliminates any transparency or investigations.

Are the Kenyans in any way accountable to Pakistan? Is there anyone in power who will or even wants to hold them accountable?

They got him killed and and didn’t even get their hands dirty while covering their azzez. It was the perfect hit job.

One can argue that it sort of turned the public opinion against them more.

As you said and many others have said they want to reverse engineer this to bring martial law.
 
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