JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[StormBreaker]

Can i have the same sh1t you are smoking?

It’s illegal bro...

It is not Feasible to interchange JF with all types flying we should keep in mind the jf-17 is jack off all trades and master of none (older f-16s) but know what Pakistan air force needs is to get 2 dedicated types of aircraft and this is needed ASAP like ASAP what needs to be done is to procure some dedicated attack/strike platform and a dedicated air superiority platform the best option on the table would be THE F-35(SEDUCE THE ORANGE MAN) BEST OPTION AND FOR STRIKE WE HAVE 2 OUTSTANDING PLATFORM FBC-1A Flying Leopard I & SU-34 WITH THESE 2 AIRCRAFT YOU CAN PUT TONES OF EXPLOSIVES/JAMMING/EW SENSORS & EVEN USE RAAD WITHOUT ANY MAJOR CHANGES (PAKISTAN HAS A LOT OF RAADS FOR SOME REASON). WE CAN DISCUSS MORE BUT UNFORTUNATELY OUR AIR FORCES EYES ARE FIXATED ON THE AZM PROJECT WHICH IS ALMOST 10 YEARS LATE AND ALLAH KNOWS WHEN WE WILL GET TO SEE THE FIRST PROTOTYPE. JF-17 WILL BE THE BACK BONE BUT WE NEED EYES(AIR SUPERIORITY), MOUTH(STRIKE) AND I THINK THE F-16 AS OUR (HANDS).

You have opened the unholy cradle after mentioning JH-7 , Mastan and denel will be looking for you

very!



may be we have it..

Better than J 10s, J 11s and J 16s?

As @Mirage Battle Commander mentioned

“It is not Feasible to interchange JF with all types flying”

You are quite right.

Thunders should replace all F-7s, Mirages and should add quantity even above what it was earlier but still, the role of Mirages must be upgraded to higher potential and must be given to a new platform, a heavy one. Doesn’t require much numbers, At most 36, but well distributed.

Platform could be SU-35, J-15, J-16. Those can serve as air superiority as well as heavy strike roles. And this is only for PAF i am talking.

PN must get it’s own arm of 3 squadrons of Block 3, and some Heavies

 

[MastanKhan]

why do you say that I am new so idk anything.

Ask the boys on this forum. They will tell you.

Or type Jh7a in the search on this forum and put my name in there. You will find out.

 

[Nomad40]

It’s illegal bro...









As @Mirage Battle Commander mentioned

“It is not Feasible to interchange JF with all types flying”

You are quite right.

Thunders should replace all F-7s, Mirages and should add quantity even above what it was earlier but still, the role of Mirages must be upgraded to higher potential and must be given to a new platform, a heavy one. Doesn’t require much numbers, At most 36, but well distributed.

exactly we dont have to buy f-35(we cant) or su-34 or j-7ii but we need something which is fearsome for the SUPPAPOWWA we attack them psychologically with our air superiority fighter like we did with f-104 and f-16 unfortunately they are no longer afraid of the f-16. If they are afraid of you then you have won half the battle.

Platform could be SU-35, J-15, J-16. Those can serve as air superiority as well as heavy strike roles. And this is only for PAF i am talking.

PN must get it’s own arm of 3 squadrons of Block 3, and some Heavies

 

[MastanKhan]

Better than J 10s, J 11s and J 16s?

hi

what the jh7 is designed to do, they dont even come close for the money you spent on it.

 

[Nomad40]

Ask the boys on this forum. They will tell you.

Or type Jh7a in the search on this forum and put my name in there. You will find out.

some other dude also said something about me being your student and/or son but this was before the j-7ii. I am confused.

 

[JohnWick]

hi

what the jh7 is designed to do, they dont even come close for the money you spent on it.

JH-7 is a serious fighter bomber....
And a good replacement for mirage fleet but it is way better to stick with jft Cz
A lot of money will have to spend to Induct a new jet in fleet....
It also based on Chinese language software so either PAF pilots will have to learn Chinese or it's software language cockpit will translated.
It is a tailor made carrier killer....

 

[StormBreaker]

some other dude also said something about me being your student and/or son but this was before the j-7ii. I am confused.

If you really are new, here is the thing,

Sir @MastanKhan is an old member, old having dual meanings positive (age and as a pdf member), you will usually find most members here disagreeing with him while many creme members here agreeing with him, he says things that seem bitter but are quite true.

His perspective of things and situations is quite different than most and usual minds so you will find it interesting having convo with him on topics.

Sometimes, people get pissed because sir MK comes at them with direct insults (calling someone kid or stupid/amateurs) however, that is less an issue as the issue persists on both sides.

As for JH-7, that guy called you a student of MK because sir MK suggests a very different approach. In case of an offensive by PAF/PN, we must have JH-7s armed to teeth, (i believe you know how deadly that beast is when it is loaded as truck), and when that fighter, escorted by Thunders/F-16s, they can tear down biggest targets in india and cause a lot of havoc unlike Thunders or F-16s which have serious limitations due to different role and less carrying capacity. All said, this strategy also suggests one more thing, that the JH-7 journey is a one way, that means pilots would be sacrificed.

Many people here don’t agree with this thought but it is quite effective even though sacrifices will be made. And hence, people get in serious arguments whenever JH7 is discussed.

 

[aliyusuf]

It’s illegal bro...

PN must get it’s own arm of 3 squadrons of Block 3, and some Heavies

We have no strategic power projection needs nor do we have nor need nor can afford an aircraft carrier.

These assets, that you mentioned above, would be best utilized and our objectives best served by having them under the usage of the PAF. In this day and age of net-centric inter-connectivity and c4I infrastructures ... let the specialists do their thing.

 

[StormBreaker]

you wont be after you do what i requested.
Top right click on search
Type jh7a
Fir post by out my name

He is confused as to why him suggesting jh7 makes him your student and you call him son

We have no strategic power projection needs nor do we have nor need nor can afford an aircraft carrier.

These assets, that you mentioned above, would be best utilized and our objectives best served by having them under the usage of the PAF. In this day and age of net-centric inter-connectivity and c4I infrastructures ... let the specialists do their thing.

PAF needs to develop more squadrons then, for maritime heavy strike.

Heavy strike capability should be sought, it is a power projection card, something that will make gangus think far many times than now as to mess with us or not

If you really are new, here is the thing,

Sir @MastanKhan is an old member, old having dual meanings positive (age and as a pdf member), you will usually find most members here disagreeing with him while many creme members here agreeing with him, he says things that seem bitter but are quite true.

His perspective of things and situations is quite different than most and usual minds so you will find it interesting having convo with him on topics.

Sometimes, people get pissed because sir MK comes at them with direct insults (calling someone kid or stupid/amateurs) however, that is less an issue as the issue persists on both sides.

As for JH-7, that guy called you a student of MK because sir MK suggests a very different approach. In case of an offensive by PAF/PN, we must have JH-7s armed to teeth, (i believe you know how deadly that beast is when it is loaded as truck), and when that fighter, escorted by Thunders/F-16s, they can tear down biggest targets in india and cause a lot of havoc unlike Thunders or F-16s which have serious limitations due to different role and less carrying capacity. All said, this strategy also suggests one more thing, that the JH-7 journey is a one way, that means pilots would be sacrificed.

Many people here don’t agree with this thought but it is quite effective even though sacrifices will be made. And hence, people get in serious arguments whenever JH7 is discussed.

@MastanKhan i need a score for writing a biography on you

Aur haath mein 3 stars bhi ;-)

 

[MastanKhan]

He is confused as to why him suggesting jh7 makes him your student and you call him son


PAF needs to develop more squadrons then, for maritime heavy strike.

Heavy strike capability should be sought, it is a power projection card, something that will make gangus think far many times than now as to mess with us or not

hi

it is a proud moment for me when an extremely capable and intelligent young man comes out saying the same thing i have been suggesting for 15 years

 

[aliyusuf]

@MastanKhan @StormBreaker @Mirage Battle Commander

I think we should seriously look into the JH-7AII that has a powerful AESA radar, new avionics and EW suite. It has impressive payload and range. It is to JH-7 & JH-7A what the Block-III is to Block-I & Block-II.

Source (Janes.com)

 

[Nomad40]

If you really are new, here is the thing,

Sir @MastanKhan is an old member, old having dual meanings positive (age and as a pdf member), you will usually find most members here disagreeing with him while many creme members here agreeing with him, he says things that seem bitter but are quite true.

His perspective of things and situations is quite different than most and usual minds so you will find it interesting having convo with him on topics.

Sometimes, people get pissed because sir MK comes at them with direct insults (calling someone kid or stupid/amateurs) however, that is less an issue as the issue persists on both sides.

As for JH-7, that guy called you a student of MK because sir MK suggests a very different approach. In case of an offensive by PAF/PN, we must have JH-7s armed to teeth, (i believe you know how deadly that beast is when it is loaded as truck), and when that fighter, escorted by Thunders/F-16s, they can tear down biggest targets in india and cause a lot of havoc unlike Thunders or F-16s which have serious limitations due to different role and less carrying capacity. All said, this strategy also suggests one more thing, that the JH-7 journey is a one way, that means pilots would be sacrificed.

Many people here don’t agree with this thought but it is quite effective even though sacrifices will be made. And
hence, people get in serious arguments whenever JH7 is discussed.

Yes I am new, I dont want to say big things because I have not faced such a decision where my life would be in imminent danger. I believe he is right (Mastan Khan) it would be a one way mission and firmly assert than our boys will never back up and it would be a better replacement for the f-7 and mirages as our boys are lost because some people will not make efforts to integrate newer platforms, I am in shock why we haven't replaced the f-7 yet as they were meant to be used for 10 or less years and then be replaced (soviet approach to the fighter) it is a great deal of shame that i had to explain to a bunch of my class colleagues (2nd LT) about what the Pakistan air force uses and then we started arguing about the f-7 or the realty MIG21f-13 we should have replaced them along time. why was there a new squadron formed at samugli when we needed f7 replaced.

If mastankhan stands for jh-7II than I am with him, one way or two way mission idk but if i knew my opponents had suicidal jh-7 pilots I would not mess with them. They are people who are ruled by fear and if we can scare them what's better?. Just assume you are the enemy and you know if you mess with me I have 3 squadrons of suicidal attack pilots would you still mess with me?.

@MastanKhan @StormBreaker @Mirage Battle Commander

I think we should seriously look into the JH-7AII that has a powerful AESA radar, new avionics and EW suite. It has impressive payload and range. It is to JH-7 & JH-7A what the Block-III is to Block-I & Block-II.

Source (Janes.com)

yes we should have along time ago like when I was 10 i remember looking at jh-7 and i was just hoping I could fly it for my air force but unfortunately I dont know who is in charge of this decisions.

 

[StormBreaker]

@MastanKhan @StormBreaker @Mirage Battle Commander

I think we should seriously look into the JH-7AII that has a powerful AESA radar, new avionics and EW suite. It has impressive payload and range. It is to JH-7 & JH-7A what the Block-III is to Block-I & Block-II.

Source (Janes.com)

That program was scrapped in favor of J-16D

Yes I am new, I dont want to say big things because I have not faced such a decision where my life would be in imminent danger. I believe he is right (Mastan Khan) it would be a one way mission and firmly assert than our boys will never back up and it would be a better replacement for the f-7 and mirages as our boys are lost because some people will not make efforts to integrate newer platforms, I am in shock why we haven't replaced the f-7 yet as they were meant to be used for 10 or less years and then be replaced (soviet approach to the fighter) it is a great deal of shame that i had to explain to a bunch of my class colleagues (2nd LT) about what the Pakistan air force uses and then we started arguing about the f-7 or the realty MIG21f-13 we should have replaced them along time. why was there a new squadron formed at samugli when we needed f7 replaced. View attachment 598577

If mastankhan stands for jh-7II than I am with him, one way or two way mission idk but if i knew my opponents had suicidal jh-7 pilots I would not mess with them. They are people who are ruled by fear and if we can scare them what's better?. Just assume you are the enemy and you know if you mess with me I have 3 squadrons of suicidal attack pilots would you still mess with me?.


yes we should have along time ago like when I was 10 i remember looking at jh-7 and i was just hoping I could fly it for my air force but unfortunately I dont know who is in charge of this decisions.

Welcome to pdf

 

[aliyusuf]

That program was scrapped in favor of J-16D

Not so much as of August 2019. J-16D is a prior development. This is a new version. In which the existing birds can be so upgraded. Something like the V upgrade for F-16. Which turns a plane almost half as costly as the J-16 to be a strike fighter of comparable potential. PLAAF & PLAN combined operate some 340 such birds. 36 of these birds upgraded to JH-AII standards at around USD 20 to 25 million a pop will be an extremely good deal and add an immense punch. Add to that ... the rumored deal for ... the upgraded J-15Bs and J-15Ds ... we won't need anything else till and even long after AZM.

 

[Nomad40]

That program was scrapped in favor of J-16D


Welcome to pdf

Thanks mate, btw IRAN is DONE