JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 5]

[SQ8]

@Oscar in case of war with India are JF-17 which Pakistan already have are ready for war I mean fully ready

Only 16th Squadron and to an extent 26th squadron.

 

[Zarvan]

Only 16th Squadron and to an extent 26th squadron.

Okay hope they perform and we get more fighter jets soon man when on earth we would get J-10 B

 

[SQ8]

Okay hope they perform and we get more fighter jets soon man when on earth we would get J-10 B

Not yet, not ever unless you are willing to go door to door to collect donations for the PAF.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

@Oscar in case of war with India are JF-17 which Pakistan already have are ready for war I mean fully ready

You fight with what you have not what you will have.

They must be battle ready. But still havent seen a BVR being fired from the JF 17.

 

[Zarvan]

Not yet, not ever unless you are willing to go door to door to collect donations for the PAF.

Man economy would take time I can see soon weather many on this forum don't like this but Pakistan asking Saudi Arabia Kuwait and UAE and Qatar for help to buy defense equipment I can see it coming but now we can't afford to wait for our economy to improve to get weapons that would be disastrous

 

[SQ8]

Man economy would take time I can see soon weather many on this forum don't like this but Pakistan asking Saudi Arabia Kuwait and UAE and Qatar for help to buy defense equipment I can see it coming but now we can't afford to wait for our economy to improve to get weapons that would be disastrous

They were responsible for the Hazara Shia Massacre as it was their funded proxies that took those actions in a counter Iran/Shia move.

They have been repeated money trails that lead back to them when BLA finances are traced.

Now why would any of these countries be willing to help us buy equipment? Perhaps SA since we have Kalb-e-Khadim--e-Harmain in power.

There is no other two ways about it, be it the JF-17 or any other defence equipment. We have to bear the costs as even the Chinese are getting a little weary of us asking them for soft loans.

 

[Zarvan]

They were responsible for the Hazara Shia Massacre as it was their funded proxies that took those actions in a counter Iran/Shia move.

They have been repeated money trails that lead back to them when BLA finances are traced.

Now why would any of these countries be willing to help us buy equipment? Perhaps SA since we have Kalb-e-Khadim--e-Harmain in power.

There is no other two ways about it, be it the JF-17 or any other defence equipment. We have to bear the costs as even the Chinese are getting a little weary of us asking them for soft loans.

BLA has nothing to do with UAE Sir stop lying their is no proof and UAE is not that stupid their own defese pretty much depends on stronger Pakistan Sir they have helped before they would help again Sir and they have given lot of help secretly which they never told to you or any other country Sir and it was Iran who started this sectarian war only thing is Saudi and Sunnis proved to be more stronger sir and Iran is funding shias every where Sir still the economy is running due to secret money from these countries other wise you were bank corrupt totally

 

[SQ8]

BLA has nothing to do with UAE Sir stop lying their is no proof and UAE is not that stupid their own defese pretty much depends on stronger Pakistan Sir they have helped before they would help again Sir and they have given lot of help secretly which they never told to you or any other country Sir and it was Iran who started this sectarian war only thing is Saudi and Sunnis proved to be more stronger sir and Iran is funding shias every where Sir still the economy is running due to secret money from these countries other wise you were bank corrupt totally

Please look at what I have highlighted before you break your keyboard. Qatar is the highlighted part, UAE is too busy being the cardinal of sin in the Arab world. And you have no proof for your claims either on secret money. I would trust people I know and meet more than you and hence I will continue to maintain their word on the dealings of these Arab nations(along with Iran) in our country. They use Pakistan as their proxy war backyard and no amount of counter accusations will have me drop mine.
So live in your ideals of Saudis or Arabs or whatever you wish giving you freebies and we'll let time be the judge.

 

[Zarvan]

Please look at what I have highlighted before you break your keyboard. Qatar is the highlighted part, UAE is too busy being the cardinal of sin in the Arab world. And you have no proof for your claims either on secret money. I would trust people I know and meet more than you and hence I will continue to maintain their word on the dealings of these Arab nations(along with Iran) in our country. They use Pakistan as their proxy war backyard and no amount of counter accusations will have me drop mine.
So live in your ideals of Saudis or Arabs or whatever you wish giving you freebies and we'll let time be the judge.

Sir I know Sir many of your defence deals are funded by these Arab countries you Jordan and Morocco are mostly funded by Saudis and other Arabs when buying equipment and your nuclear project is mostly funded by Saudis and this would never come out but this is the fact and Qatar is also not that dumb to fund BLA idiots its dear Britain along with Israel and our beloved India and also some funding from France

 

[araz]

Sir I know Sir many of your defence deals are funded by these Arab countries you Jordan and Morocco are mostly funded by Saudis and other Arabs when buying equipment and your nuclear project is mostly funded by Saudis and this would never come out but this is the fact and Qatar is also not that dumb to fund BLA idiots its dear Britain along with Israel and our beloved India and also some funding from France

Zarvan
You would be well advised to listen to what he is saying . All is not what it appears. There are forces behind the scene which are useing their good offices to use these countries for their own nasty purposes and these countries are knowingly or unknowingly being driven along. Sure the may have helped out at some time but now we have to either stand on our own two feet( and believe me every dirty trick will be tried to keep us on the ground) or we sink. There will be no freebies and that is the GOd honest truth.
Araz

 

[Hyperion]

Yara, kabhee sunn liyya karro.

Sir I know Sir many of your defence deals are funded by these Arab countries you Jordan and Morocco are mostly funded by Saudis and other Arabs when buying equipment and your nuclear project is mostly funded by Saudis and this would never come out but this is the fact and Qatar is also not that dumb to fund BLA idiots its dear Britain along with Israel and our beloved India and also some funding from France

 

[Armstrong]

Please look at what I have highlighted before you break your keyboard. Qatar is the highlighted part, UAE is too busy being the cardinal of sin in the Arab world. And you have no proof for your claims either on secret money. I would trust people I know and meet more than you and hence I will continue to maintain their word on the dealings of these Arab nations(along with Iran) in our country. They use Pakistan as their proxy war backyard and no amount of counter accusations will have me drop mine.
So live in your ideals of Saudis or Arabs or whatever you wish giving you freebies and we'll let time be the judge.

Zarvan
You would be well advised to listen to what he is saying . All is not what it appears. There are forces behind the scene which are useing their good offices to use these countries for their own nasty purposes and these countries are knowingly or unknowingly being driven along. Sure the may have helped out at some time but now we have to either stand on our own two feet( and believe me every dirty trick will be tried to keep us on the ground) or we sink. There will be no freebies and that is the GOd honest truth.
Araz

Yara, kabhee sunn liyya karro.

Waisee why is it that for many in Pakistan, the Qiblah instead of resting at Mecca ends up being directed towards either Riyadh or Tehran ?

God knows that the Cultural Centers aren't exactly teaching Hafez & Shams to Pakistanis just as the Humanitarian services & the services to Islam, by our other brothers, doing what their names suggest them to be doing !

 

[fatman17]

"We have yet to see WS-13 really equipping JF-17, even though it should have happened by now."

Feng - quoted in China Air & Naval Power

 

[shivansps]

Engines are not a easy thing, just ask India about it.

And personally i dont trust that China 1st gen engine will be able to be better than a RD-93 in terms fuel efficiency, with the limited amount of fuel on the JF-17 its not something you can sacrifice.

 

[That Guy]

Engines are not a easy thing, just ask India about it.

And personally i dont trust that China 1st gen engine will be able to be better than a RD-93 in terms fuel efficiency, with the limited amount of fuel on the JF-17 its not something you can sacrifice.

The fuel efficiency is a problem with the Chinese engines, but from what I can tell, the Chinese themselves realize this and are actively and aggressively working on a solution to the problem.