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The Impact Of Pakistan’s First Indigenous JF-17 Thunder Squadron Deployment
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WASHINGTON, D.C.—The impact of the JF-17 Thunder deployment can be heard far beyond Islamabad and Peshawar. Pakistan has now joined the ranks of the very few countries of the world that can design, produce and manufacture airplanes. This positions Pakistan on new geostrategic map. Within a few years Pakistani exports of the new fighter aircraft will exponentially grow into huge volumes. The revenue from the export of JF-17 Thunder will be ploughed back into research and development and the purchase of the best technology money can buy.



After the 1965 war the U.S. placed an arms embargo on Pakistan. Despite being a founding member of SEATO and CENTO, Islamabad faced the American sanctions. During the 1971 war Pakistan was under another American arms embargo. During the 1990s, after winning the cold war for the USA, Pakistan was under U.S. sanctions and an arms embargo.



All this is history.



Today Pakistan is capable of producing as many planes as it needs–subject to production capacity constrains which can be ramped up if and when needed. The exports to many third world countries will expedite and enhance the production capacity of the Pakistan Air Force.



Now the Sri Lankans can have as many planes they want to fight the Indian sponsored Tamil terrorists. And the Middle Eastern Air Forces can begin flying the JF-17 Thunders without begging the U.S. And the small countries of Africa can own their own JF-17 Thunders without selling their souls to the Europeans.



Pakistan has not only designed and jointly built the JF-17 Thunder, it now has deployed its first squadron in Peshawar–all in record time, one of the shortest time lines in the history of aviation. This is a major milestone for the Pakistan Air Force and brings it one step closer to becoming a major producer and exporter of planes around the world. About 17 countries are interested in the JF-17 Thunder which was a major attraction at the Pakistani IDEAS 2009 defense show this year. The success of the indigenous JF-17 deployment is a success story in many aviation failures around the globe. The American F-111, the Israeli Lavi and the Indian Tejas are notable examples of abject failures. The most recent victims of failure is the American F-22 Raptor which was recently canceled by the U.S. Department of Defense.



This success story of developing and manufacturing advanced weapons in Pakistan is not limited to the JF-17 Thunder. The Nuclear bomb, the missiles and the tanks were all produced in record time, considering that Pakistan had only one dysfunctional Textile Mill, one dilapidated University, and one archaic Jute Mill in 1947. No other country has come so far in defense production in such a short period of time.



It took the Japanese from the Meiji revolution of 1893 to 1940 to produce the deadly aircrafts that devastated Pearl Harbor. The first American missiles and the entire Apollo program was built on Von Braun’s German technology. The Russian program was similarly also based on the German programs. In fact the first V2-rockets in the Museums in Washington are simply German rocket painted red 9for Russia) and other colors for America.



The acidity of the comments from across the Radcliffe Line is palpable. The Indian press is noticeable only by its asphyxiated constipation. The silence is deafening.



Pakistan rebounding from volatile events faced issues with many of its “allies” who were also the suppliers. The USA did not want to sell any arms to Pakistan. The UK and Russia did the same. Pakistan evaluated her dangerous geo political situation as well as a belligerent international atmosphere and made some strategic decisions. The sons and daughters of Pakistan pledged “Never again” and developed a comprehensive strategy to be self-sufficient in her defense needs. It created a Nuclear deterrent, indigenous Al Khalid Tanks and a missile program that is the envy of South Asia. Neither the mercenaries sent from the across the border, not the blackmail can now harm the fabric of the country.



The Pakistan Airforce knew its needs, and prioritized its requirements. Both Pakistan and China had been jilted and were looking for plane to build. The new plane has exclusively been designed for Pakistani needs–deep penetration into India. The JF-17/FC-1 is designed to be a cost-effective plane which can meet the tactical and strategic needs of the Pakistani Air Force.The project was originally expected to cost about U.S. $ 500 million, divided equally between Pakistan and China. Each plane will cost Pakistan about US$ 15-20 million. The JF-17 Thunder initial development project was completed in a record period of four years. However, later improvements to the project has taken up more time.


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Either 'phase' or 'depot' maintenance. But from the pix, am guessing phase maintenance.

Unscheduled maintenance is always because of things that malfunction from flying. An attitude displacement indicator (ADI) got its 'ball' stuck, then the ADI is replaced on landing is an example.

Phase maintenance is based upon time, or flying hours passed. The aircraft is turned over to a specific unit trained to perform detailed inspection and R/R of anything that shows certain signs of structural stresses, out of tolerance wear, corrosion, etc.

Depot level maintenance is where the aircraft is returned to either the manufacturer or a third party maintenance outfit certified by the manufacturer to literally open and expose the aircraft down to the bare frame. Components are removed and tested, no matter what condition or age, and replace if necessary. Paint is removed and re-applied, inside and out.

From the pix, fuel is removed for safety reasons, but hydraulic fluids are kept. The jet is on jacks, main gears are up but nose gear is down, indicating gear maintenance part of the phase inspection period. Not sure why the training missile is attached, unless it is used for troubleshooting purposes. All flight control surfaces are leveled, but no external hydraulics hoses are visible, so the flight control surfaces are rigged. Absent hydraulics pressure, flight control surfaces usually droops from their weight. Canopy is removed, meaning the Egress shop has their hands on the jet. Those white stripes topside are tapes holding panels in place, so most likely those panels are fuel tanks access. Fuel tanks comes in all shapes and sizes and they usually wraps around the engines. Hard to tell if the jet is at the beginning or near the end of phase but since there seems to be an engine cradle, that could mean the jet is being prepped to have its engine removed and that mean the jet is at the front half of phase.

Youmust have some serious experience under your belt.
 
Within a few years Pakistani exports of the new fighter aircraft will exponentially grow into huge volumes. The revenue from the export of JF-17 Thunder will be ploughed back into research and development and the purchase of the best technology money can buy.

Mere wishful thinking, these lines.

JF-17 will mature into a useful program for PAF, no doubt, but it will likely never be an export success.

The most recent victims of failure is the American F-22 Raptor which was recently canceled by the U.S. Department of Defense.

:lol: Really? Who is writing this stuff?
 
Mere wishful thinking, these lines.

JF-17 will mature into a useful program for PAF, no doubt, but it will likely never be an export success.

Never say never.

:lol: Really? Who is writing this stuff?

F-22 HAS BEEN cancelled. Is it factually incorrect?
 
F-22 HAS BEEN cancelled. Is it factually incorrect?

F-22 program is suspended not entirely cancelled they will continue to be upgraded and research will take place but there is also a bill in place for the "future export version" but it seems that program can only be rebooted/initiated post 2020. A total of 195 F-22s are produced. LM has done its job keeping all the information and equipment intact in case of production line restart/cheap production and easy training of ground crew/engineering teams.
 
Never say never.



F-22 HAS BEEN cancelled. Is it factually incorrect?

What that post says about growing JF-17 exports exponentially to "huge volumes" just ain't gonna happen.

And 187 front line operational F-22s will keep the program relevant for the next several decades at least, with development continuing. The aircraft is alive and well, the only thing that has ended is production, for now. It can be resumed if needed.
 
What that post says about growing JF-17 exports exponentially to "huge volumes" just ain't gonna happen.

And 187 front line operational F-22s will keep the program relevant for the next several decades at least, with development continuing. The aircraft is alive and well, the only thing that has ended is production, for now. It can be resumed if needed.

That post maybe a bit of a hype but saying that it won't see export is something i disagree with.
 
That post maybe a bit of a hype but saying that it won't see export is something i disagree with.

Any exports, if they do happen, will be only in small numbers. And even those chances are pretty small, realistically speaking.
 
Any exports, if they do happen, will be only in small numbers. And even those chances are pretty small, realistically speaking.

None of is know for a fact as its not up to us. I see #JF-17 export prospects to be bright.
 
None of is know for a fact as its not up to us. I see #JF-17 export prospects to be bright.

Yes, the JF-17's export prospects are as bright as large-scale power generation using Thar coal. :D
 
Yes, the JF-17's export prospects are as bright as large-scale power generation using Thar coal. :D

It remains to be seen, your beliefs with you and mine with me.

End of story
 
F-22 program is suspended not entirely cancelled they will continue to be upgraded and research will take place but there is also a bill in place for the "future export version" but it seems that program can only be rebooted/initiated post 2020. A total of 195 F-22s are produced. LM has done its job keeping all the information and equipment intact in case of production line restart/cheap production and easy training of ground crew/engineering teams.


No more funding is available for further development of F-22. F-22A will be the only version of F-22 EVA. Besides, why build more F-22 when F-35 is the future of the USAF? It makes no sense to continue F-22.
 
No more funding is available for further development of F-22. F-22A will be the only version of F-22 EVA. Besides, why build more F-22 when F-35 is the future of the USAF? It makes no sense to continue F-22.

JF-17 thread so i won't talk more of F-22 but what I posted is correct from CSR report for Congress.
 
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