JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[VelocuR]

range wise, apg 68 and klj quite similar. both radars are multirole in nature. apg 68 (v9) has more modes and a better SAR imagery off course but it has an edge on most PD radars out there. However, klj has a better anti jamming and few (undisclosed) goodies. Hope i didnt say too much.

Few days ago, you said AESA confirmed in Block 2, why KLJ ?? It is now more confusion.....Anyone fly with KLJ-7 radar, sir ?

 

[soul hacker]

Few days ago, you said AESA confirmed in Block 2, why KLJ ?? It is now more confusion.....Anyone fly with KLJ-7 radar, sir ?

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[A.Muqeet khan]

hey guys what the missle that is yellow in colour is it c803 ?

 

[Najam Khan]

with two different antiship missiles.. more surprised

What might be reasons of two different missiles? Possibly comparison of values of CG, aerodynamics and some other parameters in the 'successful integration list'. Or may be its related to some with MIL-STD1760 only.

 

[ziaulislam]

a lot of pakistanis and my fellow indians are confused about the plans of PAF regarding Jf-17.

1.first 50 initial aircrafts are Jf-17 block 1,with air to air capability,with klj-07 radar with limited capabilty.

2.Next 100 planes are jf-17 block2. 50 aircrafts recently ordered of this block 2 configuration. it also has the same mechanically scanned array radar klj-07 but it features many improvements suggested by PAF,SUCH AS better air to ground modes,multi target tracking,SAR .etc. this will make the radar similar to apg-68 (v)9 or even better.
some features of block 2 jf-17 are AS PRESENTED BY THE JF-17 DESIGNER in DUBAI AIR SHOW:

1. EW POD with MAWS,NEW RWR. sophisticated jamming capability.

2.LASER DESIGNATION POD.

3. full complement of anti surface munitions like c-802a anti ship and land attack cruise missile with range 180km, LT-2 and LS-6 prEcision guided bombs which are similar to paveway and jdams.

4.sd-10A BVRAAM, PL-5Ell sraam.

5.chinese helmet mounted sight

6.digital map generator,full air to air,air to ground and anti-ship attack modes in the radar,

7.datalink,TACAN,ACMI.

this will make the jf-17 almost comparable to mig-29m, f-16c block 52,mirage 2000-5.

this will be the production standard till 2016,after which

ENTER THE JF-17 BLOCK 3 of which pakistan will order final 100 aircrafts

2016 BLOCK 3 WILL HAVE FOLLOWING FEATURES.

1.AESA RADAR

2.Newer powerplant ,new ws-13 version with greater thrust and
TVC

3.A-DARTER and newer HMD .

4,stealthy design.

5.sd-10b.

6. capability to fire RAAD cruise missile.

production of jf-17 WILL CONTINUE TILL 2025. WITH 250 AIRCRAFTS BEING MADE with the final one being block 3.J-2XX IS A SEPARATE PROJECT WHICH MAY BE INDUCTED IN 2020-25 period when pakistan gets j-10b in significant numbers and mmrca and pak-fa are already in numbers and when our AMCA joins IAF.

u have a decrease vision yar..as bl;ock 2 is according to dubai airshow start from 2012 not 2016 see slides posted here it was block 3 that was 2016..
secondly guy the things that you have posted are already working with jf-17 block 1..so dont know ..unless u r the jf-17 project supervisor ..i would say u r seeing a dream

 

[shbaziz]

a lot of pakistanis and my fellow indians are confused about the plans of PAF regarding Jf-17.

1.first 50 initial aircrafts are Jf-17 block 1,with air to air capability,with klj-07 radar with limited capabilty.

2.Next 100 planes are jf-17 block2. 50 aircrafts recently ordered of this block 2 configuration. it also has the same mechanically scanned array radar klj-07 but it features many improvements suggested by PAF,SUCH AS better air to ground modes,multi target tracking,SAR .etc. this will make the radar similar to apg-68 (v)9 or even better.
some features of block 2 jf-17 are AS PRESENTED BY THE JF-17 DESIGNER in DUBAI AIR SHOW:

1. EW POD with MAWS,NEW RWR. sophisticated jamming capability.

2.LASER DESIGNATION POD.

3. full complement of anti surface munitions like c-802a anti ship and land attack cruise missile with range 180km, LT-2 and LS-6 prEcision guided bombs which are similar to paveway and jdams.

4.sd-10A BVRAAM, PL-5Ell sraam.

5.chinese helmet mounted sight

6.digital map generator,full air to air,air to ground and anti-ship attack modes in the radar,

7.datalink,TACAN,ACMI.

this will make the jf-17 almost comparable to mig-29m, f-16c block 52,mirage 2000-5.

this will be the production standard till 2016,after which

ENTER THE JF-17 BLOCK 3 of which pakistan will order final 100 aircrafts

2016 BLOCK 3 WILL HAVE FOLLOWING FEATURES.

1.AESA RADAR

2.Newer powerplant ,new ws-13 version with greater thrust and
TVC

3.A-DARTER and newer HMD .

4,stealthy design.

5.sd-10b.

6. capability to fire RAAD cruise missile.

production of jf-17 WILL CONTINUE TILL 2025. WITH 250 AIRCRAFTS BEING MADE with the final one being block 3.J-2XX IS A SEPARATE PROJECT WHICH MAY BE INDUCTED IN 2020-25 period when pakistan gets j-10b in significant numbers and mmrca and pak-fa are already in numbers and when our AMCA joins IAF.

1) Information and radar details of block 2 are not available. its too early to say what radar and what features shall be there when we dont have complete details of even block-1 radar.

2) Some enhancements to ECM/EW suite are expected and as these are already present in Block-1, so its nothing new.

3) Weapons like SD-10, PL-05, C-802 and Ra'ad ALCM are already compatible with block-1 so they too are not an addition to block-2.

4) HMSD, NVG can be incorporated in Block-1.

5) Block-1 has a very good data link capability.

Any change in design is infact a significant change and involves cost, testing and many risks involved.

So my friend, u listed things for block-2 which are already present in block-1

 

[air marshal]

Today In History - November 23, 2009: Pakistan formally joined the international community of fighter aircraft manufacturers as JF-17 Thunder, the first ever multi role state of the art rolled out of Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra and was included to the fleet of Pakistan Air Force. Manufactured with the cooperation of China, the event has been termed as a beginning of new era of Pak China friendship.

 

[abaseen99]

Xiaolong is a typical 3-generation machine, which is the number of telex, after three generations of the body is a typical level. You know, three generations of the Su-27 is such a classic analog fax, telex numbers than Xiaolong half a generation behind. Xiaolong weapons actually include active bombs PL12 or call SD10. The ability to launch active missile, is Mirage 2000, F16A, Su-27 and other typical third-generation machines do not have the ability. Equipment such as the French Mirage 2000, Rafale to use their initiative in the distance bombs, Mirage 2000 is not enough. Russian Su-27 is not the only semi-active missile only R27, you can not use active play R77. Xiaolong flight control or whether it is very advanced fire control, cockpit or cabin current typical 3.5. It should not be Xiaolong said to quasi-two generations or three generations what. Xiaolong is, after three generations, three generations in the advanced model. Some people say, and Xiaolong so cheap low-end stuff, or what the advanced models, not nonsense it? So, Xiaolong is the use of advanced technology as much as possible and try to resist the material to achieve the highest possible performance. The whole machine in order to reduce costs, mainly aluminum, which is the most expensive aviation materials, titanium and composite materials using only 3%. Is almost negligible. Xiaolong and in order to reduce costs, the digital flight control systems are used by half telex telex, without sacrificing performance, half the use of hydraulic control, which makes Xiaolong reduce manufacturing costs and more ruthless . Significant contrast to things Indian LCA. India is the use of this brilliant 40% of the composite material, the incredibly expensive machines, enough to buy one of several Xiaolong. This is the technological advantage Xiaolong. Summary, the three generations of machines Xiaolong is the more advanced models. Xiaolong is a digital fax, and the previous three generations of machines are analog fax, and telex number is later. Su-27 is the simulation of telex. Xiaolong is the most advanced fire control system, you can use the initiative in distance shells. This advantage is very large, contrast, India's MiG-29 with the Mirage 2000 is not enough. Su-30 the job. Xiaolong is a description of the more advanced third-generation machine. Besides a detail of things. Su-27 to launch R27, over the horizon attacks, according to a dozen buttons, are typical of the early levels of the three generations of machines. Xiaolong launch PL12 just press 3 on the line. Even if two aircraft in combat is the same time began to attack, and our missiles are next to the aircraft you fly, you press the End button does not estimate. Xiaolong not advanced it? Little detailed knowledge of the next after Xiaolong, Xiaolong Does anyone say what is quasi-three generations of it?中国枭龙火控系统很牛，印度的LCA没法比 - 尖端兵器 - 环球网社区 -

 

[abaseen99]

 

[razgriz19]

NEWER VERSION OF SD-10A!!!!
IT LOOKS A LOT MORE COMPACT THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE!
DEFINETLY DESTINED FOR J-20'S INTERNAL BAY!

 

[houshanghai]

What might be reasons of two different missiles? Possibly comparison of values of CG, aerodynamics and some other parameters in the 'successful integration list'. Or may be its related to some with MIL-STD1760 only.

^^ I dont know why ....but this pic is not a CG work....,

videos
JF17 PT06 with two different missiles(11.20.2011) - YouTube

JF-17 carrying two different type of missiles - YouTube

thx 汉魂雄风

 

[Manticore]

NEWER VERSION OF SD-10A!!!!
IT LOOKS A LOT MORE COMPACT THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE!
DEFINETLY DESTINED FOR J-20'S INTERNAL BAY!

its been around for a couple of months-- even dubbed as chinese versions of aim120d

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hushangahi

 

[abaseen99]

 

[Donatello]

I think they need to increase the production rate.....otherwise until 2016 PAF would only have 150 JF-17s

 

[SuperDoper]

I think they need to increase the production rate.....otherwise until 2016 PAF would only have 150 JF-17s

Still Russian Engines?