well pakistan needs to hurry with their air force because we need to catch up and surpass india
Better than block 52 by all means expect in payload.
in dog fights, it is as good as the f-16
Block 3 will have aesa, irst which will give it an edge over block 52, but if block 3 doesnt have hmd than nothing can beat an f 16 in dog fights on the given day, the 16's structural design is superior to jf 17 letting it perform manovures the 17 just cant.
the block 3 will have have a hmd
what structural design? care to elaborate?
But still the f 16 will take the crown in dog fights, unless we get hobs for 17, however most engagements in the future will be bvr hence 17 will be a much better option for us in that scenario as compared to block 52's and by the way hmd is one thing which is unconfirmed in 17 unless the chinese churn something credible up, i dont think the brits or the french will part that easily with topowl or hmss, specially when u factor in our close proximity to china...
Its bubble canopy for one, its fly by wire system, its a larger aircraft with longer range, larger use of composites and im not an aviation expert yet f 16 is the most potent dog fighter known to man, it beat the hell out of the f 35 in dogfights.
The Bubble canopy or being a larger aircraft with longer range or larger use of composites do not help in a dog fight. Just saying because that is what you guys were discussing.
agreed
Can you explain, how technically DSI set limits to a/c speed?
he has no idea. just waffling and throwing a big word here and there
but you do agree that the 16 is a better aircraft in terms of structural design and would've an upper hand in a dog fight over the 17? and to my extremely limited knowledge on the subject, dont u think a lighter aircraft(composites) would mean more control and stability in a dogfight?, a larger aircraft would mean more hardpoints which means it could carry more wvr missles for a dog fight?, and a buble canopy would mean more situational awareness for the pilot?, i can see no use of a buble canopy in a bvr engagement. what is ur opinion?
with respect bvr means beyond visual range, if u are using the canopy for a visual on a bogey that makes it a wvr engagement not a bvr one, we are not talking about bvr engagements here, dogfights are wvr engagements and a larger aircraft means more hardpoints which means more wvr missles can be carried for dogfights..
