JF-17 Block III Multirole Fighter

[Jungibaaz]

Does JF-17 have similar issues in achieving its top speed? I suppose that information would not be publicly available.

JF-17 has structural limitations that will not let it have a max speed of mach 2, same with F-35, namely the DSI intake. This particular inlet design has a whole host of other advantages though.

 

[Sameer25]

The stuff being said about Block III is speculation until it's prototype rolls out. And you want to talk about Block IV...? What is the hurry mate?

well pakistan needs to hurry with their air force because we need to catch up and surpass india

 

[Awan68]

Equal to 90% of block 52

Better than block 52 by all means expect in payload.

 

[Sameer25]

Better than block 52 by all means expect in payload.

in dog fights, it is as good as the f-16

 

[Awan68]

in dog fights, it is as good as the f-16

Block 3 will have aesa, irst which will give it an edge over block 52, but if block 3 doesnt have hmd than nothing can beat an f 16 in dog fights on the given day, the 16's structural design is superior to jf 17 letting it perform manovures the 17 just cant.

 

[Sameer25]

Block 3 will have aesa, irst which will give it an edge over block 52, but if block 3 doesnt have hmd than nothing can beat an f 16 in dog fights on the given day, the 16's structural design is superior to jf 17 letting it perform manovures the 17 just cant.

the block 3 will have have a hmd

 

[Trango Towers]

Block 3 will have aesa, irst which will give it an edge over block 52, but if block 3 doesnt have hmd than nothing can beat an f 16 in dog fights on the given day, the 16's structural design is superior to jf 17 letting it perform manovures the 17 just cant.

what structural design? care to elaborate?

 

[Awan68]

the block 3 will have have a hmd

But still the f 16 will take the crown in dog fights, unless we get hobs for 17, however most engagements in the future will be bvr hence 17 will be a much better option for us in that scenario as compared to block 52's and by the way hmd is one thing which is unconfirmed in 17 unless the chinese churn something credible up, i dont think the brits or the french will part that easily with topowl or hmss, specially when u factor in our close proximity to china...

what structural design? care to elaborate?

Its bubble canopy for one, its fly by wire system, its a larger aircraft with longer range, larger use of composites and im not an aviation expert yet f 16 is the most potent dog fighter known to man, it beat the hell out of the f 35 in dogfights.

 

[Trango Towers]

But still the f 16 will take the crown in dog fights, unless we get hobs for 17, however most engagements in the future will be bvr hence 17 will be a much better option for us in that scenario as compared to block 52's and by the way hmd is one thing which is unconfirmed in 17 unless the chinese churn something credible up, i dont think the brits or the french will part that easily with topowl or hmss, specially when u factor in our close proximity to china...


Its bubble canopy for one, its fly by wire system, its a larger aircraft with longer range, larger use of composites and im not an aviation expert yet f 16 is the most potent dog fighter known to man, it beat the hell out of the f 35 in dogfights.

none of the things you say a direct structural advantages
bubble canopy just helps with visual contact. in BVR combat doesn't do jack
larger aircraft doesn't mean anything. if anything a lighter more agile fighter is better
composites make the fighter lighter but if your f16 is bigger and heavier already.....
come on..............with respect....

 

[Arsalan]

But still the f 16 will take the crown in dog fights, unless we get hobs for 17, however most engagements in the future will be bvr hence 17 will be a much better option for us in that scenario as compared to block 52's and by the way hmd is one thing which is unconfirmed in 17 unless the Chinese churn something credible up, i don't think the brits or the french will part that easily with topowl or hmss, specially when u factor in our close proximity to china...


Its bubble canopy for one, its fly by wire system, its a larger aircraft with longer range, larger use of composites and im not an aviation expert yet f 16 is the most potent dog fighter known to man, it beat the hell out of the f 35 in dogfights.

The Bubble canopy or being a larger aircraft with longer range or larger use of composites do not help in a dog fight. Just saying because that is what you guys were discussing.

Block 3 will have aesa, irst which will give it an edge over block 52, but if block 3 doesnt have hmd than nothing can beat an f 16 in dog fights on the given day, the 16's structural design is superior to jf 17 letting it perform manovures the 17 just cant.

 

[Trango Towers]

The Bubble canopy or being a larger aircraft with longer range or larger use of composites do not help in a dog fight. Just saying because that is what you guys were discussing.

agreed

 

[BATMAN]

JF-17 has structural limitations that will not let it have a max speed of mach 2, same with F-35, namely the DSI intake.

Can you explain, how technically DSI set limits to a/c speed?

 

[Trango Towers]

Can you explain, how technically DSI set limits to a/c speed?

he has no idea. just waffling and throwing a big word here and there

 

[Basel]

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Can you share their capabilities and comparison with other modern systems.

 

[Awan68]

The Bubble canopy or being a larger aircraft with longer range or larger use of composites do not help in a dog fight. Just saying because that is what you guys were discussing.

but you do agree that the 16 is a better aircraft in terms of structural design and would've an upper hand in a dog fight over the 17? and to my extremely limited knowledge on the subject, dont u think a lighter aircraft(composites) would mean more control and stability in a dogfight?, a larger aircraft would mean more hardpoints which means it could carry more wvr missles for a dog fight?, and a buble canopy would mean more situational awareness for the pilot?, i can see no use of a buble canopy in a bvr engagement. what is ur opinion?

none of the things you say a direct structural advantages
bubble canopy just helps with visual contact. in BVR combat doesn't do jack
larger aircraft doesn't mean anything. if anything a lighter more agile fighter is better
composites make the fighter lighter but if your f16 is bigger and heavier already.....
come on..............with respect....

with respect bvr means beyond visual range, if u are using the canopy for a visual on a bogey that makes it a wvr engagement not a bvr one, we are not talking about bvr engagements here, dogfights are wvr engagements and a larger aircraft means more hardpoints which means more wvr missles can be carried for dogfights..