Japan's Growing Naval Power: Japan building more Atago Class GM Destroyers

[Aepsilons]

Japan manufacturing sites not only locate in Japan land.
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That's the thing. We have offshored over 4500 manufacturing sites in China, and then some 4000+ in ASEAN, another 1200 in India, and some more in Bangladesh. This is just in Asia.

We also have manufacturing sites in Canada, USA, Mexico, Latin America and in Europe.

We had been inspired by the US Aegis.

However, Japan is totally dependent on the US technology.

The things like SPY-1D, MK41, LM2500 are definitely the US technologies, while China doesn't need any foreign technology to build its own navy.

Man. You know i just zipped up after talking to @Genesis , now you want me to unzip again?

 

[F-22Raptor]

I hope the PLAN is foolish enough to view the Japanese Navy as being weak. Underestimating them would be to the detriment of any adversary.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I hope the PLAN is foolish enough to view the Japanese Navy as being weak. Underestimating them would be to the detriment of any adversary.

Sorry, but Japan is too small to be our adversary.

 

[Aepsilons]

Sorry, but Japan is too small to be our adversary.

No need to be adversary, I thought we were partners ?

 

[IsaacNewton]

They have a stabilizing effect, for the time being. Their presence negates the necessity of Japan completely remilitarizing to be able to engage and cover any threats from any power. Quite frankly, Japan's defense doctrine is quite weak -- compared to what it should and could be. If the United States were to leave, hypothetically, then this would necessitate Japan to raise defense spending level to 3% of our GDP. That's around $150 Billion per annum. This would also necessitate Japan to develop --- her own nuclear capabilities (and, yes we do have the ability to do so currently, just that we don't need to with Sammy close by, lol)

Well a nuclear Japan will probably cause South Korea to go nuclear, and China will then increase their nuclear stockpile to keep the edge which would prompt India and Russia to increase nuclear stockpiles, and then it will trigger to Pakistan and Iran going more nuclear, ect. No one really wants that. USA's interest is for the world to be as non-nuclear as possible.

Post cold war, both USA and Russia decided to reduce nuclear stockpile from 30,000 ICBMS to <1000.

IMO nuclear non proliferation was a stabilizing force.

 

[Aepsilons]

Well a nuclear Japan will probably cause South Korea to go nuclear, and China will then increase their nuclear stockpile to keep the edge which would prompt India and Russia to increase nuclear stockpiles, and then it will trigger to Pakistan and Iran going more nuclear, ect. No one really wants that. USA's interest is for the world to be as non-nuclear as possible.

Precisely. Hence, the reason why the US is arguably a stabilizing force.

 

[KAL-EL]

No need to be adversary, I thought we were partners ?

I really respect your class in dealing with some of the Hyper-Nationalists here. A few seem to almost go out of their way to be hostile and confrontational with you. Yet, you just kill them with kindness and class.

 

[BoQ77]

We believe any raising of Japan military abilities are for their own security, harmless to China.
And we should think that any development of Japan military at given pace which never intend to outnumber China ability.
So the chance of what happened during WW2 could repeat is None.

 

[Aepsilons]

We believe any raising of Japan military abilities are for their own security, harmless to China.
And we should think that any development of Japan military at given pace which never intend to outnumber China ability.
So the chance of what happened during WW2 could repeat is None.

Precisely. There are little to no contention with China as it stands. The issue of the Senkakus and Diaoyutai has been mothballed. The same with the Koreans, we may disagree with the issue of Takeshima/ Dokdo, but let's be realistic, no one is going to war over some uninhabited rocks. LOL.

Only an absolute nut job imbecile would think so.

 

[Aepsilons]

We don't underestimate anyone, we sent warships to Philippines, granted, still some distance away from the confrontation, when in reality we should have sent rescue boats.

We are building nuke subs, 10,000 ton DDGs, carriers, anti ship ballistic missiles, fifth gen fighters, and more, what else do you want us to do man.

As you guys should! China is an ascendant power and she should develop her capabilities to secure her interests --- globally. The same as what other maturing powers are doing. No one here, least of all us Japanese, is saying that China should retract. China is developing its capabilities to secure her military bases in Africa, and its interests there, as well as in other parts of the globe.

This is exactly the reason why Japan is doing the same, because we , too, have vast interests abroad and we have a military base abroad. With much of our interests requiring our presence to secure them.

Well since we are allies with North Korea, I guess that leaves you to in the fighting for rocks scenario.

Ally by necessity. There will be no war in the Korean peninsula as it would affect the entire region. And not the Japanese, Chinese, Americans are willing to re-open that wound some 60 years ago.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Sorry, but Japan is too small to be our adversary.

The Japanese military has ample capability to pose unacceptable costs to the Chinese. They are hindered only by policy, and could spend 2-3 times what they do now on defense.

 

[BoQ77]

We believe any raising of Japan military abilities are for their own security, harmless to China.
And we should think that any development of Japan military at given pace which never intend to outnumber China ability.
So the chance of what happened during WW2 could repeat is None.

I wish the next fighting would be somewhere in far space between droids. And live broadcasting

 

[Aepsilons]

I like strongly worded emails, cheap, and fast, sending men overseas cost money and potentially lives. Pretty much nothing that can't be done with a very strongly worded letter, can be done with a gun.

Military should only be used in the event of failure of diplomatic protocol. That said, as one who served in military, lives of military men should not be sacrificed , the military should only be used when and if it has to. The use of force is a foregone conclusion.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Japanese military has ample capability to pose unacceptable costs to the Chinese. They are hindered only by policy, and could spend 2-3 times what they do now on defense.

What unacceptable costs?

They don't have the offensive capability due the post-WWII constitution.

 

[Aepsilons]

I wish the next fighting would be somewhere in far space between droids. And live broadcasting

lol. star craft much?