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It Was Putin's Missile!

Ukraine is responsible for this, the missile fired from their territory and plane crashed on their territory explains this. Russia has nothing to do with this even if missile was fired by Rebels.

well according to the western newssources that i followed the last few days, Russians are responsible for providing these buk weapons to their seperatists, and the training necessary to operate these systems.

i don't intend to start a flame war on this forum over this. i won't post western media news articles related to MH17. counter-productive to instigating peace via this forum....
 
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Whose invenstigation? Putin? They took the black box, it's one thing to support Russia its another to be devoid of empathy.
then who you suggest . The neonazies in Kiev ?
The black box must be handed to the manufacturer of the airplane to be deciphered at the end . but right now a question why Ukraine don't publish the conversations between the plane and the tower ?
and honestly you think the black box tell us what that we already don't knew
 
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No. I mean YOUR US village.

Russian companies earn money with Oil, their ratings are of second interest for them. But you have no clue, its ok. :tup:

I do, and more than you apparently.

then who you suggest . The neonazies in Kiev ?
The black box must be handed to the manufacturer of the airplane to be deciphered at the end . but right now a question why Ukraine don't publish the conversations between the plane and the tower ?
and honestly you think the black box tell us what that we already don't knew

How are the Ukrainians neo nazis? Tell me if baluchis in Iran have full Support of a third country to seperate, do you let them take it? Or you fight for it? That is what Ukraininans are doing. I do not support the Ukrainians because they are with US, which you are doing to spite the US. It doesnt matter. The world is providing evidence which points towards the rebels who fucked up. Yet you want more evidence.

What you want is a clean chit, and you need that from the Ruskies. Which you will get im pretty sure.
 
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I do, and more than you apparently.



How are the Ukrainians neo nazis? Tell me if baluchis in Iran have full Support of a third country to seperate, do you let them take it? Or you fight for it? That is what Ukraininans are doing. I do not support the Ukrainians because they are with US, which you are doing to spite the US. It doesnt matter. The world is providing evidence which points towards the rebels who fucked up. Yet you want more evidence.

What you want is a clean chit, and you need that from the Ruskies. Which you will get im pretty sure.
let not start a discussion about the role of neonazies in Ukraine political sphere .
They did not even bother to hide their ideology .

and don't forget the unrest in eastern Ukraine only started after the Ukraine parliament banned russian language while being occupied by those armed neonazie.
 
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let not start a discussion about the role of neonazies in Ukraine political sphere .
They did not even bother to hide their ideology .

and don't forget the unrest in eastern Ukraine only started after the Ukraine parliament banned russian language while being occupied by those armed neonazie.

Yeah they banned after the Ruskies invaded their lands.
 
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NO one can blame any one not keiv not rebels nor Russia
there is no evidence and they are saying Russia
seems like they have make up there Evidence lol idots ppl
 
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You mean Russia attacked Ukraine the next day after overthrowing of Ukraine elected president .

The people of Ukraine overthrew them, what right does Russia have to interfere? Did any foreign power have the right ot interfere if ayatullas are overthrown?
 
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You mean Russia attacked Ukraine the next day after overthrowing of Ukraine elected president .

You mean Russia invaded and annexed a territory instead of trying to prop the President elect govt. back in power? I mean he ran away to Russia alive and fine and could have came back after the Russian invasion. I thought they were trying to save the Russians?
 
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The people of Ukraine overthrew them, what right does Russia have to interfere? Did any foreign power have the right ot interfere if ayatullas are overthrown?
that was some militant not the people of Ukraine and Russia didn't interfered before the uprising and that uprising didn't started till the nazi-fan in Kiev banned russian language which was the dominant language in eastern Ukraine .

You mean Russia invaded and annexed a territory instead of trying to prop the President elect govt. back in power? I mean he ran away to Russia alive and fine and could have came back after the Russian invasion. I thought they were trying to save the Russians?
Russia act as it's interest so don't fool yourself with this nonsense of protecting the Russian otherwise right now Russia would have rendered Ukraine army to scrap metals .
and tell me who get the most benefit from shooting down the plane .


and by the way a question .If I'm not wrong you know more knowledgeable about aircrafts and such.
how useful is a buk system without the copul radar in intercepting an airplane at the altitude of 10 km ?
 
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This entire episode is a crying frigging shame. All those innocent civilians killed in the bombing of that plane and people are playing the blame game about insignificant issues
 
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I'd rather believe the CIA and NSA and western media than the verbal diahrea put forth by guys like @Hasbara Buster

yes. you also believed them when they told you that iraqi soldiers in kuwait in 1990, were throwing out kuwaiti babies from incubators.

@All muslims : I'll return to being 'the reasonable white man' on this forum. My grieving process is now complete..

if there is any deep meaning to those words, it has escaped my understanding.

well according to the western newssources that i followed the last few days, Russians are responsible for providing these buk weapons to their seperatists, and the training necessary to operate these systems.

why don't you talk about usa. britain, qatar and turkey providing anti-aircraft rockets and machine guns to "peaceful rebel activists" in libya, and providing gas masks and poison gas to "peaceful rebel activists" in syria.

why don't you talk about the usa government and its allies invading a independent libya and overthrowing the jamahiriya government and installing a al-qaida/taliban/brotherhood government.

You mean Russia invaded and annexed a territory instead of trying to prop the President elect govt. back in power? I mean he ran away to Russia alive and fine and could have came back after the Russian invasion. I thought they were trying to save the Russians?

can you simplify your wording, please??
 
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yes. you also believed them when they told you that iraqi soldiers in kuwait in 1990, were throwing out kuwaiti babies from incubators.

1990 was well before 2001 when i started my online political activism to instigate peace around the world ;)

if there is any deep meaning to those words, it has escaped my understanding.

As have many other things, apparently ;)

why don't you talk about usa. britain, qatar and turkey providing anti-aircraft rockets and machine guns to "peaceful rebel activists" in libya, and providing gas masks and poison gas to "peaceful rebel activists" in syria.

Libya was liberated to allow for elections by the Libyans, Syria saw chemical weapons REMOVED by the western coalition.

why don't you talk about the usa government and its allies invading a independent libya and overthrowing the jamahiriya government and installing a al-qaida/taliban/brotherhood government.

independent? under Kadaffi? hardly.
installig a government? hardly - there were elections in Libya remember
 
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