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Since the US doesn't dare to come out with sat and radar tracking evidences (don't even try tell me the US doesn't have them!), Russia is meanwhile giving the US a face saving backdoor to get out of the situation by saying that the Ukraine might have accidentally shot down MH 17 during a military exercise. ;)
 
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The platform already has a radar like I posted before and how it works in the source.
yes and is it a search radar ?
And don't forget there is evidence that at the time Ukraine had its buk system active at the area and their radar were turned on.
 
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@Syrian Lion, @SyrianChristianPatriot, @Ceylal... your contribution needed here.



so you joined the "jihad watch" website, i suppose... and instigated lasting peace that way... or maybe you joined the website of ned ( national endowment of democracy ), one of the cia-funded "human rights organizations" trying their best to instigate democracy in russia, iraq, libya, syria, north korea, venezuela, cuba, belarus and china.

because i certainly don't find you the person who in 2003 marched among the tens of thousands in london ( the million man march ), protesting against the western invasion of iraq.



you mean this liberation of blood bath, brought to you by nato brand soap and gcc brand shampoo...?? and just like how the west is liberating syria...??

this is from syria... the head being roasted must have belonged to a syrian policeman or one of the milita members defending socialist syria... and the "peaceful activist" holding the head will be from the al-gay-da or talibunny or al shabaab or the other invading groups supported by nato, gcc, india, israel, indonesia and brunei... and by the way, i copied the picture from lux-veritas's blospot pages, and @Lux de Veritas is a member of pdf too...
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this below thing was once a human.. in libya... and either a defender of libyan jamahiriya or maybe just one of the two million migrants to rich, prosperous and just libyan jamahiriya... and the people who did this below thing were one of the "liberators of libya", as you so intelligently put it... and the "liberators" entered libyan cities under protection of nato and gcc planes... and indian warships... the source for this picture is ( The Libyan Civil War: Critical Views: Rebel Atrocity Videos ), where there are many other "liberation of libya" stories and pictures...
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as for "democratic elections" held in libya and arranged by usa and its allies in nato, gcc, india, indonesia etc... below is the picture of abdul hakim belhaj, formerly heading the lifg terrorist group which then merged with al-gay-da ( al qaida ). this below person was one of the usa-sponsored "liberators of libya" who became part of the "transitional government" in post-2011 libya. he now is a key member of the "al watan party" ( Homeland Party (Libya) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ), one of the many "liberal" parties in the all-new multi-party democracy called "new libya"...
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why didn't the western coalition ( and its gcc puppets ) remove chemical weapons from india, the most unjust and undemocratic society in history??

and for some more info on use by al-gay-da and talibunny... ( Syrian TV - Yurt: Al Qaeda Mambers Manufacuring Poison Gas Near Gaziantep for Use Against Syrians ).

and a famous picture to describe al-gay-da and talibunny...
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the below picture is from one of the "million man marches" in tripoli ( libya ) in 2011, in support of muammar gaddafi and the socialist jamahiriya system of the then libya... the total population of libya in 2011 was about six million, including natives and migrants... so were these millions in these marches forced to attend under gun-point??
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from wikipedia ( List of largest peaceful gatherings in history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )...

On 1 July 2011, an estimated 2 million people gathered at Green Square, Tripoli, Libya to show support for Muammar Gaddafi against NATO aggression. The gathering represented just under a third of the Libyan population.​



alread answered above but...

usa, britain and israel drove out arafat's plo from gaza and installed hamas into power through "democratic elections". nato invaded iraq and installed the present government there. indeed, iraq now has a system of regular elections. so democratic... and as the american secretary of state, madeline half-bright, said once... "the invasion of iraq and installation of democracy in iraq was quite worth killing 500,000 children of iraq".



i am not avoiding anything and that is why i asked you a question. therefore it must be my lack of comprehension which made me unable to understand your sophisticated and sooper dooper language.

so my learned elder, please write again in simple words what you meant earlier.

This is such a good response that I'm gonna take my time to rebuke it :)

Yes, I joined the jihad-watch squad of the CIA, NSA and Dutch AIVD (I "was sent 'here'" by the muslims at forums.marokko.nl, but dont blame them for it ey - that's pointless to the core ;) ), and yes, I was for the 2003 invasion of Iraq because "Saddam was such a major asshole"... I hope Saddam gets some peace time of his own in his muslim heaven / hell / wherever he ended up (not my jurisdiction, Of Course)

Will read the rest of this after breakfast and after doing some chores around my beautiful home in my PEACEFUL CITY... ;)
 
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you mean this liberation of blood bath, brought to you by nato brand soap and gcc brand shampoo...?? and just like how the west is liberating syria...??

Hey, with all due respect, and a lot of respect is due because of the suffering that muslims had to endure by means of western military operations to curtail and prune terroristic organisations, since 2001 at least, i have this response for you:

We of western militaries sometimes (often) get one hand tied behind our backs, and the legs shackled with 1 foot steel wires between our ankles (sorta say, methaphorically ofcourse), because of desires by muslims to fight this way or another way.

We do apologize, I apologize, for all the deaths and suffering muslims had to endure. Especially that of just nationalistic (non-terroristic) muslims.

As a side-note, thank you so much for providing the first real decapitation pictures i had to absorb in my mind.
This is valid, and does belong on defence.pk/forums, but: i don't think it's gonna help your causes a whole lot if you turn defence.pk/forums into a horror-pictures show. Ok?..... Respect to the dead, their suffering surviving friends family and familiar faces, and let's try to prevent this from happening in the future ok..

why didn't the western coalition ( and its gcc puppets ) remove chemical weapons from india, the most unjust and undemocratic society in history??

Because India doesn't use those chemical weapons against THEIR OWN civilians. There there to keep pakistan, the tiny assertive country next-door, in check on the political, military and intelligence-org levels..

the below picture is from one of the "million man marches" in tripoli ( libya ) in 2011, in support of muammar gaddafi and the socialist jamahiriya system of the then libya... the total population of libya in 2011 was about six million, including natives and migrants... so were these millions in these marches forced to attend under gun-point??
from wikipedia ( List of largest peaceful gatherings in history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )...
On 1 July 2011, an estimated 2 million people gathered at Green Square, Tripoli, Libya to show support for Muammar Gaddafi against NATO aggression. The gathering represented just under a third of the Libyan population.

You're quite right here. I had missed this million-man march. I will not make this mistake again. See my signature below here.

All i can do is learn and improve my responses folks. I'm only a mortal human after all, just as stupid and flawed as other humans..
 
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usa, britain and israel drove out arafat's plo from gaza and installed hamas into power through "democratic elections". nato invaded iraq and installed the present government there. indeed, iraq now has a system of regular elections. so democratic... and as the american secretary of state, madeline half-bright, said once... "the invasion of iraq and installation of democracy in iraq was quite worth killing 500,000 children of iraq".

noted! but: Hamas was elected, then opted for a strategy of 'striking back at Israel periodically'.
And Hamas is determined to stick to these strategies.

I beg of reasonable muslims to convince Hamas that Israel can not be defeated by military means. Only exclusively-peaceful-resistance can work in the Palestinians' favor. I remain convinced of that.

i am not avoiding anything and that is why i asked you a question. therefore it must be my lack of comprehension which made me unable to understand your sophisticated and sooper dooper language.
so my learned elder, please write again in simple words what you meant earlier.

I'm at least as uneducated and therefore stupid as you, my friend.... :(

In simple words: only exclusively-peaceful-resistance works against a militarily-superior enemy that has the means to stay the most powerful party in terms of military- (and perhaps also economic- and political-) power.

I've sent these responses of mine to the Dutch government, Dutch intel, US government@whitehouse, US CIA & NSA, and the Mossad..


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From: peacefan@defence.pk/forums
Date: Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: today's newsheadlines -> i'm not gonna undermine NATO, if that's what you fear..
To: info@whitehouse.gov, info@cia.gov, nsapao@nsa.gov, info@groenlinks.nl, ORG-FRC-ChristenUnie <christenunie@tweedekamer.nl>, sgp@tweedekamer.nl, info@vvd.nl, info@pvv.nl, info@50pluspartij.nl, info@sp.nl, info@pvda.nl, Tweede Kamer fractie D66 <d66@tweedekamer.nl>, info@pvdd.nl, info@gov.il



[must read : ] https://defence.pk/threads/it-was-putins-missile.325022/page-7#post-5980136
 
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