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Israel to ‘punish’ Turkey.

Also by this way Turkey will be under Pak nuclear umbrella!! We cant expect from NATO cuz those will side with the Israelis! It is clear that we need Nukes for detterant against Israeli and other nukes! Actually thats the main reason they can act up against us.. They trust their nukes other way they dont make any chance my brothers! Ofcourse we trust in Allah only!! no friends, weapons or money it is only our faith in ourselves strenght wich we build and trust on!!

My understanding is that Pakistani establishment will throw caution to the wind and provide some kind of 'nuclear umbrella' to Turkey. And, yes, with tactical or even strategic nukes backing Turkey Israeli posture viz a viz Turkey will be largely neutralized.
 
Who the Turks where conquered by Arabs? or is it the other way around go educate yourself buddy!

And soon to be conquered by India if you keep treading on thin ice with your neighbors. If Turkey truly wishes to be India's ally than they must act in a responsibly peaceful manner because Indians do not response well to aggression on others or on us.

India soon will replace America as the new system of global order and little countries like Turkey and Israel should respect that and view us as a model of peace and try to replicate it. A peaceful world is the dream of every Indian and we will make sure that dream is materialized even if that means using unnecessary force on your country and Israel.
 
What Turkey Can Teach India

By Tridivesh Singh Maini

June 22, 2011

Turkey’s recent election was interesting for a number of reasons – including what it says about politics in India.

Turkey’s centre-right AKP regime, headed by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, appears to have consolidated its position, with its third triumph on the trot. This is a remarkable achievement, and Erdogan is eyeing a larger role for Turkey within the Middle East. Political bickering in Iran, meanwhile, has only increased the possibility, and plausibility, of Turkey stepping up in the region.

Interestingly, Erdogan’s erudite professor come foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, also ran for office. It was an unusual move, made all the more interesting by the fact that as part of his campaign he distributed classic books such as Great Expectations, in addition to copies of his own works on foreign policy. It’s a move that raises some pertinent questions about India’s overall approach to politics and foreign policy.

First, Davutoglu showed that it was possible to blend his image as a technocrat with a little populism. By distributing his own books, meanwhile, he has been able to share his worldview and vision for the role Turkey can play on the world stage.

In contrast, when was the last time any Indian politician distributed a book in an election campaign? It’s common for politicians here to distribute pamphlets with derogatory remarks about opponents, or else bicycles, TV sets and consumer goods aimed at buying voter loyalty. But not books.

Some might argue that Davutoglu’s approach wouldn’t work in India. But no one seems brave enough to even try. Even the youth brigade, led by Rahul Gandhi, has failed to provide refreshing alternatives to the usual hackneyed ways of campaigning.

But there’s another interesting comparison to be made. Davutoglu was handpicked to be Turkey’s foreign minister in large part because of his specialist foreign policy knowledge. Yet despite India being a rising global power, the role of foreign minister isn’t seen as a particularly desirable one in politics here. And sadly, its importance appears to be diminishing.

The fact is that in India, the office of the foreign minister doesn’t command nearly the sort of authority it should, or indeed did in the past. Ongoing turf wars with the Prime Minister’s office and the Ministry of Home Affairs only complicate things further. While foreign policy in other countries is certainly influenced by domestic politics, in India it’s being completely overshadowed by intra-party and intra-government feuds.

Unfortunately, the experiment of having former UN Under Secretary General for Communications and Public InformationShashi Tharoor as foreign minister, an appointment many hoped would bring a breath of fresh air to India’s lethargic and chaotic foreign policy making, lasted less than a year.

If technocrats aren’t acceptable to the Indian system, then it’s important to ensure that the most promising of politicians are put to work in the foreign policy cell of political parties. Yet neither the ruling Congress Party nor the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party can claim to have any outstanding individuals manning foreign policy. This is an unhealthy trend, and will hamper progressive thinking on India’s position in the world.

The result of such stagnation is that India’s perspective on foreign policy is restricted to the country’s relationships with China, Pakistan and the United States. But this is based purely on short-term political calculations, rather than the long-term interests of India. The approach towards these three countries is reactionary, mostly based on media reports, and so there’s no clear roadmap for future ties. While there are certainly advisors (most of whom are retired diplomats) very few have the audacity to provide bold input.

India can’t become a superpower merely through growing its economy. Rising economic strength needs to be complemented by a pro-active foreign policy that can only come from individuals who can balance national interests with international realities. For India’s sake, let’s hope that the Ministry of External Affairs can find the talent and the vision to create a foreign policy that takes note of domestic politics, but isn’t subservient to it.

Tridivesh Singh Maini is an Associate Fellow with The Observer Research Foundation, New Delhi. The views expressed are his own.
 
My understanding is that Pakistani establishment will throw caution to the wind and provide some kind of 'nuclear umbrella' to Turkey. And, yes, with tactical or even strategic nukes backing Turkey Israeli posture viz a viz Turkey will be largely neutralized.

I sense they already have . I like the thought of helping Turkey stand tall against Israels flex. I cant see the Israelis having the balls to step out of line with Turkey.
 
And soon to be conquered by India if you keep treading on ice. If Turkey truly wishes to be India's ally than they must act in a responsibly peaceful manner because Indians do not response well to aggression on others or on us.

India soon will replace America as the new system of global order and little countries like Turkey and Israel should respect that and view us as a model of peace and try to replicate it. A peaceful world is the dream of every Indian and we will make sure that dream is materialized.

Brothers quake in your boots out of 300 flying mig 21 aka flying coffins leaving incredible india at least 20 should reach turkey. Just keep out of the way they might accidently fall on you because the were made in 1960 i think
 
I sense they already have . I like the thought of helping Turkey stand tall against Israels flex. I cant see the Israelis having the balls to step out of line with Turkey.

I know the consequences for Pakistan. But then wars or near-wars are madness. And nations don't always calculate the effects of their actions.

I think no less than General Aslam Baig--the most powerful person in Pakistan in the late 80's/early 90's-- and Dr. A.Q.Khan--the 'Father of Pakistani Nukes' wanted to arm Iran with nukes to 'deflect' attention from Pakistan's nukes and/or to arm a 'brother'. Turkey is an easier decision than that.
 
And soon to be conquered by India if you keep treading on thin ice with your neighbors. If Turkey truly wishes to be India's ally than they must act in a responsibly peaceful manner because Indians do not response well to aggression on others or on us.

India soon will replace America as the new system of global order and little countries like Turkey and Israel should respect that and view us as a model of peace and try to replicate it. A peaceful world is the dream of every Indian and we will make sure that dream is materialized even if that means using unnecessary force on your country and Israel.

Sir you mean Incredible wet dream of incredible India Sir. Its so refreshing to see an indian be honest and open his mouth. I salute you sir and I look forward to some good threads from you in the future
 
I sense they already have . I like the thought of helping Turkey stand tall against Israels flex. I cant see the Israelis having the balls to step out of line with Turkey.

Lol.Given it's press releases,All I see is Turkey running for cover brother.Is there something you know that we all don't?
 
Not conquering but you are welcome to visit Turkey as a guest lets forget about politics we love Indian people. I grew up watching your bollywood movies!

Good. But this is not about India, this is about your country and Israel which can potentially destabilize the entire region. I hope you understand how severe your actions can be, that is why India must take a role in the safety of the region. US has a lot on their hands so it is up to India to bring peace and democracy. And I would truly wish military force be used as a last resort but there are situations where only military force will work and this is one of those situations if things continue to escalate.
 
In a feud between Israel and Turkey , I would like to see India remaining neutral but there is a good chance of India supporting Israel diplomatically . Turkey has always shunned Indian advances and given more importance to Pakistan. Time for us to back our "true" allies in every way we can. At a time when Israel appears to be cornered , our diplomatic support will be a tremendously welcome gesture.

I'm the opposite, I'd rather GoI openly support the Israelis although it is more than likely that they will choose not to - You know how it is; Oil and all that good stuff. Yeah... I think it's time GoI started supporting our partners/friends instead of pussyfooting about under pretence of this "Non Aligned Policy".

To all the jumped up idiots wondering why Indians favour Israelis: It's because they stood by us and showed us support (during Kargil) and despite all the saber rattling about the Muslim Ummah, none of you gave a sh*t about Pakistan when they needed you to. You let them hang out to dry with upturned noses. So yeah keep your love affair confined to the internet. That's all you seem to be willing to do.
 
My understanding is that Pakistani establishment will throw caution to the wind and provide some kind of 'nuclear umbrella' to Turkey. And, yes, with tactical or even strategic nukes backing Turkey Israeli posture viz a viz Turkey will be largely neutralized.

Good to know my brother!

Thanks to your support

Our enemies will fear this for sure.
 
Good. But this is not about India, this is about your country and Israel which can potentially destabilize the entire region. I hope you understand how severe your actions can be, that is why India must take a role in the safety of the region. US has a lot on their hands so it is up to India to bring peace and democracy.

Well said sir dont let him take you off thread with these turks have to learn about the power of incredible India and what indian people are thinking
 
Sir you mean Incredible wet dream of incredible India Sir. Its so refreshing to see an indian be honest and open his mouth. I salute you sir and I look forward to some good threads from you in the future

Indias future in safe hands. What a load of twaddle...
 
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