Israel says will never support Pakistan on Kashmir

[DjSnake]

Fact has been established that israel's opinion on kashmir is irrelevant. they are natural foes of Pakistan.

However, what about Israel's closest allies, KSA, UAE, Bahrain etc.? These countries see eye to eye with israel and I believe the real blow to Pakistan(is) is when they find out GCC will support india's stand on kashmir. Mark my words, this will happen. If they're willing to throw their fathers, grandmothers and neighbors under the bus, Pakistan should be no issue. look at palestine, iraq, syria, libya, yemen.. be weary of arab treachery

 

[Gregor Clegane]

Khamenei did. But you already knew that.

Nope.
The Iranian gov't did not.
In his recent meetings with Pakistani visitors neither Rouhani nor Iranian foreign ministry did not even bother to mention Kashmir.
More importantly Iran did not even bother to mention Kashmir at OIC.

Old and senile Khoemeini has made similar statements in Kashmir in 2010 & 2008 too when ever he saw closeness between US & India

 

[UnitedPak]

Nope.
The Iranian gov't did not.
In his recent meetings with Pakistani visitors neither Rouhani nor Iranian foreign ministry did not even bother to mention Kashmir.
More importantly Iran did not even bother to mention Kashmir at OIC.

Old and senile Khoemeini has made similar statements in Kashmir in 2010 & 2008 too when ever he saw closeness between US & India

He is only known as the Supreme leader of Iran, but you are admitting that this is politics and then describe him as senile. Pick one. It can't be both.

Not sure where you are even getting at? Has disaster been averted? Is all well now? The facts are still the same.

 

[Gregor Clegane]

He is only known as the Supreme leader of Iran, but you are admitting that this is politics and then describe him as senile. Pick one. It can't be both.

Not sure where you are even getting at? Has disaster been averted? Is all well now? The facts are still the same.

The Rouhani Presidency has revealed that how ineffective Khoemeini is when it comes to foreign policy.
He is a senile old man who comments on what he sees on TV.

You forgetting that just two week back Iran invited a senior Indian foreign minister on Chabahar Port.

Khoemeini's comments in 2002, 2008, 2010, 2017 on Kashmir changed nothing on the Iranian stance.

 

[Clutch]

Pakistan should just make peace with Israel and Trump India.

And in turn get the Jewish lobby in the USA to get Trump's **** off pakistan.

Win-win

 

[tarrar]

Its as like I don't know this.

 

[Trango Towers]

I feel so isolated because a stinking jew is siding with a smelly hindu. it was all aover the media that jews must shower before enetering a pool in one European country. that's what happens when you have indian friends. you become like them

 

[Tshering22]

Pakistan should just make peace with Israel and Trump India.

And in turn get the Jewish lobby in the USA to get Trump's **** off pakistan.

Win-win

It can't.

As an Islamic ideological nation, this will create tremendous internal strife and conflict within its population as people will take to arms against the government's decision.

 

[Clutch]

It can't.

As an Islamic ideological nation, this will create tremendous internal strife and conflict within its population as people will take to arms against the government's decision.

Why Not? Many other Muslim countries have relations with Israel.

Most Pakistanis can't find Israel on the map and don't know much about the issue. Pakistan's boycott is based on geopolitics rather than domestic demand.

Most Indians don't know jack **** about pakistan. ...

Believe me, besides a few darts from the religious right no mainstream political parties or their supporters care too much about the Israeli Palestinian issue... it's all about getting the green light from Saudi

 

[Tshering22]

Why Not? Many other Muslim countries have relations with Israel.

Most Pakistanis can't find Israel on the map and don't know much about the issue. Pakistan's boycott is based on geopolitics rather than domestic demand.

Most Indians don't know jack **** about pakistan. ...

Believe me, besides a few darts from the religious right no mainstream political parties or their supporters care too much about the Israeli Palestinian issue... it's all about getting the green light from Saudi

Thanks for this.

I was wanting someone here to say it.

Why does Pakistan need a green light from Saudi?

Orders?

Debt issues?

You are a sovereign country.

The very fact that you await Saudi's signal indicates that your foreign policy needs to evolve first with your allies before making new friends.

 

[Clutch]

Thanks for this.

I was wanting someone here to say it.

Why does Pakistan need a green light from Saudi?

Orders?

Debt issues?

You are a sovereign country.

The very fact that you await Saudi's signal indicates that your foreign policy needs to evolve first with your allies before making new friends.

Subsidized oil and $$$. .... Nothing else.

However Saudi themselves are shifting to a pro Israeli stance. ... which means Pak will follow

 

[Sully3]

yes thank you mr obvious

Indian literally forcing their partners to talk negative about Pakistan is hilarious. The west knows how easy it is to keep India happy whilst lynching them for every penny. just look at the Rafael deal for India compared to qatar, egypt and UAE's deals

 

[Isotope]

I agree with you that Israel should be taken seriously but I don't buy this 'West' thingy. It's basically their Lobby in America which can destroy political careers and electability of some few hundred Congressmen and Senators. Countries of Europe, except for Germans being blackmailed, don't care for Israel--they are probably secretly happy to have finally getting rid of Jews after having repeatedly hurt Jews living in Europe.

But I think you are right--no one can ignore Israel because through their Lobby in America they can ruin the image of any country. And it will stay like this until there's campaign finance reform in America.

Israel watches every political race in every election in the US. Whether local or national, it's lobby in US has dossiers on every candidate, grading each according to their loyalty to the Israeli state. It works with a heavy but quiet fist. They first unsuccessfully tried to influence the British government in the 1940s, then they switched to manipulating the US Congress because it was an easier more malleable target. It has been using propaganda and threats for decades because it works. Due to its multi-million dollar multi-generational policy of organisation couple with implied blackmail, every US Senator and Representative will at the very least look the other way when Israel continues to violate international laws, occupy and steal Palestinian territory, illegally blockade Palestinians, and bomb innocent civilians. The alternative is the end to a political career.

Just ask President Jimmy Carter or Ambassador Charles ‘Chas’ Freeman.

 

[Meengla]

Israel watches every political race in every election in the US. Whether local or national, it's lobby in US has dossiers on every candidate, grading each according to their loyalty to the Israeli state. It works with a heavy but quiet fist. They first unsuccessfully tried to influence the British government in the 1940s, then they switched to manipulating the US Congress because it was an easier more malleable target. It has been using propaganda and threats for decades because it works. Due to its multi-million dollar multi-generational policy of organisation couple with implied blackmail, every US Senator and Representative will at the very least look the other way when Israel continues to violate international laws, occupy and steal Palestinian territory, illegally blockade Palestinians, and bomb innocent civilians. The alternative is the end to a political career.

Just ask President Jimmy Carter or Ambassador Charles ‘Chas’ Freeman.

Add Cynthia McKinnon--the Congresswoman from GA to the list--and many many more. Your post should be a STICKY. Actually, this topic should be a Sticky because it pertains to many countries in the Middle East and even to Pakistan.